Best MIMs for international students' placement


Duncan
Lots of masters students are looking for the opportunity to find work in other countries. The FT rankings are very useful because they show the schools with good international mobility, high employment rates and many international students.

In this post, I pick the 40 FT-ranked MIMs with the highest international mobility, remove the ten with the fewest international students, and then remove the ten remaining with the lowest employment. I've ranked them by career service and added the FT's note to show if they require a relevant degree.

See the data in context at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2018

I've used the same method for MBAs at https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-mbas-for-international-students-placement-35651

School name Careers service rank Relevant degree?
University of St Gallen 1 Yes
London Business School 8 No
Imperial College Business School16 No
Eada Business School Barcelona 20 No
Cranfield School of Management 22 No
University College Dublin: Smurfit 24 Yes
Stockholm School of Economics 28 No
WU (Vienna University of Economics and Business) 29 Yes
Antwerp Management School 32 No
ESCP EuropeFeatured business school 33 No
Skema Business School 38 No
Católica Lisbon School of Business and Economics 41 Yes
Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University 45 Yes
Nova School of Business and Economics 47 No
Alliance Manchester Business School 48 No
IQS/FJU/USF 57 No
Maastricht University School of Business and Economics 72 No
Copenhagen Business School 78 Yes
Hult International Business School 82 No
University of Economics, Prague 97 Yes
Lots of masters students are looking for the opportunity to find work in other countries. The FT rankings are very useful because they show the schools with good international mobility, high employment rates and many international students.

In this post, I pick the 40 FT-ranked MIMs with the highest international mobility, remove the ten with the fewest international students, and then remove the ten remaining with the lowest employment. I've ranked them by career service and added the FT's note to show if they require a relevant degree.

See the data in context at http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-management-2018

I've used the same method for MBAs at https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-mbas-for-international-students-placement-35651

School name Careers service rank Relevant degree?
University of St Gallen 1 Yes
London Business School 8 No
Imperial College Business School16 No
Eada Business School Barcelona 20 No
Cranfield School of Management 22 No
University College Dublin: Smurfit 24 Yes
Stockholm School of Economics 28 No
WU (Vienna University of Economics and Business) 29 Yes
Antwerp Management School 32 No
ESCP EuropeFeatured business school 33 No
Skema Business School 38 No
Católica Lisbon School of Business and Economics 41 Yes
Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University 45 Yes
Nova School of Business and Economics 47 No
Alliance Manchester Business School 48 No
IQS/FJU/USF 57 No
Maastricht University School of Business and Economics 72 No
Copenhagen Business School 78 Yes
Hult International Business School 82 No
University of Economics, Prague 97 Yes
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mba hipste...
That St. Gallen program has really dominated this ranking! Salaries look good too.

I'm curious as to why the German schools (WHU, HHL, Frankfurt, Mannheim, Cologne, TUM) are so poor for international mobility. Even the Dutch schools are generally better in this sense.

Any thoughts?
That St. Gallen program has really dominated this ranking! Salaries look good too.

I'm curious as to why the German schools (WHU, HHL, Frankfurt, Mannheim, Cologne, TUM) are so poor for international mobility. Even the Dutch schools are generally better in this sense.

Any thoughts?
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Duncan
Not many foreigners speak German. Not many Germans want to work abroad after a MiM in Germany.
Not many foreigners speak German. Not many Germans want to work abroad after a MiM in Germany.
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eduaudax
St. Gallen has from my perspective two advantages in the ranking:
- the salary level in Switzerland, which is very high
- the fact that Germans and Austrians are counted as Internationals in the ranking

I am not too familiar with the concept, how international mobility is calculated/defined. If the quite numerous German SIM-students returning to Germany count towards the international mobility rank, this would provide a substantial boost to this metric.

The FT writes: "International mobility rank: Calculated according to whether alumni work in different countries today than at graduation."
I am a bit confused by the "than at graduation." Does the FT mean 'than the country of their first job after the studies' or 'than the country the university was located in'?
St. Gallen has from my perspective two advantages in the ranking:
- the salary level in Switzerland, which is very high
- the fact that Germans and Austrians are counted as Internationals in the ranking

I am not too familiar with the concept, how international mobility is calculated/defined. If the quite numerous German SIM-students returning to Germany count towards the international mobility rank, this would provide a substantial boost to this metric.

The FT writes: "International mobility rank: Calculated according to whether alumni work in different countries today than at graduation."
I am a bit confused by the "than at graduation." Does the FT mean 'than the country of their first job after the studies' or 'than the country the university was located in'?
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Duncan
I think you should assume the literal meaning of "whether alumni work in different countries today than at graduation." Is their current job in the same country as the job they held when they graduated?
I think you should assume the literal meaning of "whether alumni work in different countries today than at graduation." Is their current job in the same country as the job they held when they graduated?
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mba hipste...
Not many foreigners speak German. Not many Germans want to work abroad after a MiM in Germany.

That makes sense but it's a bit odd that German MBA programs tend to do a lot better in terms of international mobility in the FT ranking (Mannheim and ESMT are in the top 10).

Do you think it's because German firms are more likely to recruit foreigners who are farther along in their careers?
[quote]Not many foreigners speak German. Not many Germans want to work abroad after a MiM in Germany. [/quote]
That makes sense but it's a bit odd that German MBA programs tend to do a lot better in terms of international mobility in the FT ranking (Mannheim and ESMT are in the top 10).

Do you think it's because German firms are more likely to recruit foreigners who are farther along in their careers?
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Duncan
Germans in MBA programmes are generally at least bilingual and study in English to internationalise their careers.
Germans in MBA programmes are generally at least bilingual and study in English to internationalise their careers.
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mba hipste...
Sure totally agree but for example the ESMT program is more than 90% international and they claim that 88% of 2017 grads ended up in Germany. It's looking like German MBAs like this one are pretty efficient at helping students transition into the country.
Sure totally agree but for example the ESMT program is more than 90% international and they claim that 88% of 2017 grads ended up in Germany. It's looking like German MBAs like this one are pretty efficient at helping students transition into the country.
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Duncan
I'm not sure. The international mobility variable in the FT ranking shows alumni working in a different country now than at graduation. If that's the case, then that suggests many ESMT MBAs are taking a first job in Germany but then leaving the country.
I'm not sure. The international mobility variable in the FT ranking shows alumni working in a different country now than at graduation. If that's the case, then that suggests many ESMT MBAs are taking a first job in Germany but then leaving the country.
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