Babson Olin Vs Cranfield Vs HHL Leipzig


samco.me

I have got admit to
*Babson Olin (2 years), with overall Fees+living, over $ 100k
*Cranfield (1 yr) around 49k
* HHL Leipzig (21 months) $ 50k

I am interested in SCM/Operation/Strategy role post-MBA in Consumer products/e-commerce/Logistics

Please help me decide which one to choose, as I am also awaiting response to few other colleges. Also, is it possible to negotiate with these colleges about scholarship.

Profile:
34 Indian, B.Tech from Top-tier Indian institution
over 9.5 year work ex= 6 years (EPC, project management, innovations) + 3.5 yrs (Leading Retail family business)

I have got admit to
*Babson Olin (2 years), with overall Fees+living, over $ 100k
*Cranfield (1 yr) around 49k
* HHL Leipzig (21 months) $ 50k

I am interested in SCM/Operation/Strategy role post-MBA in Consumer products/e-commerce/Logistics

Please help me decide which one to choose, as I am also awaiting response to few other colleges. Also, is it possible to negotiate with these colleges about scholarship.

Profile:
34 Indian, B.Tech from Top-tier Indian institution
over 9.5 year work ex= 6 years (EPC, project management, innovations) + 3.5 yrs (Leading Retail family business)
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Duncan

Assuming you want to work in-country, I would put them in the opposite order. These are great schools. Babson is the leading school for entrepreneurs. You are unlikely to get a US work permit, and on that basis I would exclude it. Cranfield is a strong school, with an unusual four term MBA that builds in a lot of content. However, that limits the time available for acculturation, networking and internships. HHL's long track has that time, and edges out Cranfield on that basis. Unlike WHU and ESMT, in cities where many people in shops will speak English, its location will encourage you to learn German.

PS certainly ask about scholars but focus on the best school for your goals. Since you mention SCM and logistics, also look at the MIT Scale partner schools. These can be a better fit for your goals and have higher salaries with lowest costs.

[Edited by Duncan on Feb 22, 2020]

Assuming you want to work in-country, I would put them in the opposite order. These are great schools. Babson is the leading school for entrepreneurs. You are unlikely to get a US work permit, and on that basis I would exclude it. Cranfield is a strong school, with an unusual four term MBA that builds in a lot of content. However, that limits the time available for acculturation, networking and internships. HHL's long track has that time, and edges out Cranfield on that basis. Unlike WHU and ESMT, in cities where many people in shops will speak English, its location will encourage you to learn German.

PS certainly ask about scholars but focus on the best school for your goals. Since you mention SCM and logistics, also look at the MIT Scale partner schools. These can be a better fit for your goals and have higher salaries with lowest costs.
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mba hipste...

In general I would agree. But Cranfield deserves a close look, if this candidate doesn't already have some German language faculty. The re-introduced post-MBA work visa scheme in the UK gives it a bit of an edge.

In terms of scholarships, I am not sure what you mean by 'negotiate.' If you have a strong profile, there is a better chance they will offer you something. How is your GMAT score?

In general I would agree. But Cranfield deserves a close look, if this candidate doesn't already have some German language faculty. The re-introduced post-MBA work visa scheme in the UK gives it a bit of an edge.

In terms of scholarships, I am not sure what you mean by 'negotiate.' If you have a strong profile, there is a better chance they will offer you something. How is your GMAT score?
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samco.me

In general I would agree. But Cranfield deserves a close look, if this candidate doesn't already have some German language faculty. The re-introduced post-MBA work visa scheme in the UK gives it a bit of an edge.

In terms of scholarships, I am not sure what you mean by 'negotiate.' If you have a strong profile, there is a better chance they will offer you something. How is your GMAT score?


I have score of 680 (Q49, V34) and a bursury of 10,000 pounds from cranfield on tuition fees. Is it possible to ask for further aid either from cranfield or from some UK authority that could support me in minimizing living expense or tuition fees of cranfield's program?

I have heard that some candidates have negotiated to increase scholarship amount based on other comeptitive admission offers to study in US Program.

I am not sure if that is possible here with cranfield as other offers like babsons (50% entrepreneurship based scholarship) is from other country.

[quote]In general I would agree. But Cranfield deserves a close look, if this candidate doesn't already have some German language faculty. The re-introduced post-MBA work visa scheme in the UK gives it a bit of an edge.

In terms of scholarships, I am not sure what you mean by 'negotiate.' If you have a strong profile, there is a better chance they will offer you something. How is your GMAT score?[/quote]

I have score of 680 (Q49, V34) and a bursury of 10,000 pounds from cranfield on tuition fees. Is it possible to ask for further aid either from cranfield or from some UK authority that could support me in minimizing living expense or tuition fees of cranfield's program?

I have heard that some candidates have negotiated to increase scholarship amount based on other comeptitive admission offers to study in US Program.

I am not sure if that is possible here with cranfield as other offers like babsons (50% entrepreneurship based scholarship) is from other country.
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Duncan

Read: The sad facts about scholarships http://www.find-mba.com/board/37055

If you need fuller financing, you'll need to either
a. apply to worse and richer schools rather than European state universities with modest funding.
b. borrow the same way as most other candidates do.

Read: The sad facts about scholarships http://www.find-mba.com/board/37055

If you need fuller financing, you'll need to either
a. apply to worse and richer schools rather than European state universities with modest funding.
b. borrow the same way as most other candidates do.
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maury

I don't know. You could always let the schools know that there are other offers on the table - but unless you are a highly desirable candidate, or can add something extra to their cohort, this will most likely just bounce off them.

I don't know. You could always let the schools know that there are other offers on the table - but unless you are a highly desirable candidate, or can add something extra to their cohort, this will most likely just bounce off them.
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samco.me

I have also got admission to Boston university's Questrom MBA program. There is atleast 25k-30k of difference (Questrom higher than Cranfield even with 50% of scholarship from Questrom.

What do you experts think about this?

I have also got admission to Boston university's Questrom MBA program. There is atleast 25k-30k of difference (Questrom higher than Cranfield even with 50% of scholarship from Questrom.

What do you experts think about this?
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Duncan

I would give you the same answer as I have about Babson on the 22nd. If you don't have the right to work in the USA, there's no point...

I would give you the same answer as I have about Babson on the 22nd. If you don't have the right to work in the USA, there's no point...
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samco.me

I would give you the same answer as I have about Babson on the 22nd. If you don't have the right to work in the USA, there's no point...


So, in what scenario should one international candidate, with no US work authorization, think of doing US MBA outside top-50 in your opinion.

Also, does US MBA's internship feature of flagship 2-yrs program help anyway in this?

If not, then how is additional 1 yr of fees+expense over similar ranked UK or European MBA (1 yr programs) even worth considering for such candidates?

[quote]I would give you the same answer as I have about Babson on the 22nd. If you don't have the right to work in the USA, there's no point...[/quote]

So, in what scenario should one international candidate, with no US work authorization, think of doing US MBA outside top-50 in your opinion.

Also, does US MBA's internship feature of flagship 2-yrs program help anyway in this?

If not, then how is additional 1 yr of fees+expense over similar ranked UK or European MBA (1 yr programs) even worth considering for such candidates?
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Duncan

I'd say a good reason for a non-US resident to do a full-time MBA outside the top 1 schools would be:
- you are engaged to an American
- your employer has promised to pay for your MBA and hire you in the USA
- you are confident in your ability to get married before the end of your degree, for example a 10/ or 9/10 in personal attractiveness or well-connected to people who successfully organise fraudulent marriages.

Internships help, but not much. The odds are hugely against you.

People make bad choices every day. I am not going to pretend they are good choices just because they are common.

I'd say a good reason for a non-US resident to do a full-time MBA outside the top 1 schools would be:
- you are engaged to an American
- your employer has promised to pay for your MBA and hire you in the USA
- you are confident in your ability to get married before the end of your degree, for example a 10/ or 9/10 in personal attractiveness or well-connected to people who successfully organise fraudulent marriages.

Internships help, but not much. The odds are hugely against you.

People make bad choices every day. I am not going to pretend they are good choices just because they are common.
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Duncan

In this context, read the story of a European who too a top 10 MBA: https://find-mba.com/board/usa/tips-from-a-european-top-10-mba-in-the-us-34148

In this context, read the story of a European who too a top 10 MBA: https://find-mba.com/board/usa/tips-from-a-european-top-10-mba-in-the-us-34148
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