MIM Options


Hi All

I am looking for selecting the best college for MIM degree on my few selected options which are open for my considerate parameters:

1. Neoma Business School (MIM Grand Ecole) - Jan intake - Rouen Campus
2. CBS International School - MSc Course - Jan Intake
3. ESCP Europe - Jan Intake (Course Not finalized) mostly a MSc degree
4. ESB Business school & Neoma Business school (Dual Degree) through IPBS MGM
5. HWR Berlin - Jan Intake - MSc Course
6. Copanhagen Business School / Masstricht Univeristy

I hope I would be able to receive few feedback on this.

Hi All

I am looking for selecting the best college for MIM degree on my few selected options which are open for my considerate parameters:

1. Neoma Business School (MIM Grand Ecole) - Jan intake - Rouen Campus
2. CBS International School - MSc Course - Jan Intake
3. ESCP Europe - Jan Intake (Course Not finalized) mostly a MSc degree
4. ESB Business school & Neoma Business school (Dual Degree) through IPBS MGM
5. HWR Berlin - Jan Intake - MSc Course
6. Copanhagen Business School / Masstricht Univeristy

I hope I would be able to receive few feedback on this.
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Duncan

What are your goals?

What are your goals?
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Duncan

I must just say, the Rouen campus is spectacular!

I must just say, the Rouen campus is spectacular!
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Thanks a ton !! Duncan :-)   To answer to your question - My short-term goals are first – to acquire master’s in management degree from your school in the next two years while also mastering the local language for fluent and important interpersonal conversations. Second – after completing my degree I would like to work on a managerial role in a global company like Tesla or Microsoft. I would like to work with big corporate giants like Google, Microsoft or Tesla and learn the necessary skills. Long term vision would be seeing my self in a senior level managerial position for a large multinational corporation. 

However I had quick two questions: 
1. What college upon the above mentioned is a best fit for me to pursue in terms of international opportunities possessed by the respective B Schools? 

2. Studies say - Netherlands is a good fit for a management degree. I wanted to know your thoughts on it. Why in Netherlands do we have one year masters and not two years of management degree. 

Would be waiting for your thoughts on it

Thanks a ton !! Duncan :-)&nbsp; &nbsp;To answer to your question -&nbsp;<span style="text-align: justify;">My&nbsp;</span><b style="text-align: justify;">short-term goals</b><span style="text-align: justify;">&nbsp;are first – to acquire master’s in management degree from your school in the next two years while also mastering the local language for fluent and important interpersonal conversations. Second – after completing my degree I would like to work on a managerial role in a global company like Tesla or Microsoft. I would like to work with big corporate giants like Google, Microsoft or Tesla and learn the necessary skills.&nbsp;</span><b style="text-align: justify; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Long term vision</b><span style="text-align: justify; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">&nbsp;would be seeing my self in a senior level managerial position for a large multinational corporation.&nbsp;</span><br><br>However I had quick two questions:&nbsp;<br>1. What college upon the above mentioned is a best fit for me to pursue in terms of international opportunities possessed by the respective B Schools?&nbsp;<br><br>2. Studies say - Netherlands is a good fit for a management degree. I wanted to know your thoughts on it. Why in Netherlands do we have one year masters and not two years of management degree.&nbsp;<br><br>Would be waiting for your thoughts on it<br>
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Duncan

It's not likely that you will improve the local language much while studying in English. Is your language ability high enough to study in the local language? If not, reasess your goals.

It's not likely that you will improve the local language much while studying in English. Is your language ability high enough to study in the local language? If not, reasess your goals.
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I understand !! to what you are trying to say... However, I will be new to the language I would be learning and determined task in indeed for my career growth further. 
Although, I would want your inputs on which college is better in terms of employment growth and further opportunities on the International Borders ....


I understand !! to what you are trying to say... However, I will be new to the language I would be learning and determined task in indeed for my career growth further.&nbsp;<br>Although, I would want your inputs on which college is better in terms of employment growth and further opportunities on the International Borders ....<br><br><br>
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Duncan

Read the post on my profile page about learning the language. It's that you are determined but, other things being equal, a determined person cannot master French to a professional level and meet the obligations of a demanding two year degree taught in English. It would be better to take one year to learn French full time and then take a one year degree taught in French. 

Read the post on my profile page about learning the language. It's that you are determined but, other things being equal, a determined person cannot master French to a professional level and meet the obligations of a demanding two year degree taught in English. It would be better to take one year to learn French full time and then take a one year degree taught in French.&nbsp;
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sunilc

Hi Duncan, Moving to my Rotterdam company office for new assignment. I am planning to do Part-time MBA besides working Full-time in Rotterdam. Could you please advise good Part-time MBA course / schools in Netherlands or Europe. As Part-time , normally classes are held on weekends, i can manage travelling even if i have to go to other nearby country. Thanks 

 

Hi Duncan, Moving to my Rotterdam company office for new assignment. I am planning to do Part-time MBA besides working Full-time in Rotterdam. Could you please advise good Part-time MBA course / schools in Netherlands or Europe. As Part-time , normally classes are held on weekends, i can manage travelling even if i have to go to other nearby country. Thanks&nbsp;<br><br>&nbsp;
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Duncan

As always this depends on your goals. Check out the FT EMBA ranking too. The RSM MBA and the OneMBA are great options. 

As always this depends on your goals. Check out the FT EMBA ranking too. The RSM MBA and the OneMBA are great options.&nbsp;
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Hi Duncan, may be we are not on the same page .... Putting it in a different way - I am looking for b-schools for MIM or MSc programs in Jan Intake 2021 among colleges of Netherlands, Germany & France. The options I shared with you were colleges I can get into considering the parameters and my profile evaluation. Your advice on which college is better !!

Hi Duncan, may be we are not on the same page .... Putting it in a different way - I am looking for b-schools for MIM or MSc programs in Jan Intake 2021 among colleges of Netherlands, Germany &amp; France. The options I shared with you were colleges I can get into considering the parameters and my profile evaluation. Your advice on which college is better !!
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Also, my goals to answer your question would be - Graduating from a decent bschool with Masters and then get into a Multinational company with a senior level management role. Influencing young talent and managing & consulting firms. 

Also, my goals to answer your question would be - Graduating from a decent bschool with Masters and then get into a Multinational company with a senior level management role. Influencing young talent and managing &amp; consulting firms.&nbsp;
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Duncan

I don't think any of these programmes will probably meet your goals, as I understand them.  All of these are good schools which are successful at placing people who speak the local business language. Other things being equal, the realities of language acquisition are that we can exclude the notion that you will graduate from these English speaking programmes able to work in a senior management role in those countries. 

I don't think any of these programmes will probably meet your goals, as I understand them.&nbsp; All of these are good schools which are successful at placing people who speak the local business language. Other things being equal, the realities of language acquisition are that we can exclude the notion that you will graduate from these English speaking programmes able to work in a senior management role in those countries.&nbsp;
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I understand your thought. But doing an English program from any of these b schools - will it be a good way to start off my career with - Middle level of management. 

i know the language acquisition will be quite difficult and demanding - that is the reason I am only looking for Master courses which have 18-24 months of duration. This way I will have time to be fluent in my Language communications.

I understand your thought. But doing an English program from any of these b schools - will it be a good way to start off my career with - Middle level of management.&nbsp;<br><br>i know the language acquisition will be quite difficult and demanding - that is the reason I am only looking for Master courses which have 18-24 months of duration. This way I will have time to be fluent in my Language communications.
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Duncan

Maybe someone else can help? 

Maybe someone else can help?&nbsp;
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Ghentuni

Also, my goals to answer your question would be - Graduating from a decent bschool with Masters and then get into a Multinational company with a senior level management role. Influencing young talent and managing & consulting firms. 


An MIM from these schools will not get you top level management roles at any of the multinational companies that you mentioned. What is your work experience like? If you don't speak the native language then you will be limited to English speaking entry level roles in most of these countries, maybe in analytics or marketing. 

[quote]Also, my goals to answer your question would be - Graduating from a decent bschool with Masters and then get into a Multinational company with a senior level management role. Influencing young talent and managing &amp; consulting firms.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>An MIM from these schools will not get you top level management roles at any of the multinational companies that you mentioned. What is your work experience like? If you don't speak the native language then you will be limited to English speaking entry level roles in most of these countries, maybe in analytics or marketing.&nbsp;
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Hello everyone,
I need some help with the tough decision:
I have to decide at which of these two universities to do a MIM program: Maastricht University or University of Amsterdam. To be more precise, the program at Maastricht University is called "Master in International Business" and the one at Amsterdam University has the name "Master in Business Administration". The content of the programs, however, seems to be quite similar.
I know that Maastricht University is famous for its Problem Based Learning approach, which is attracting with its supposed proactive attitude towards studies and predominant interaction between students, their opinions, and decisions (in contrast with the conventional approach in which professor plays the main role). 
Additionally, Maastricht University was ranked 32 in Financial Times ranking in 2019, making it the second-best university in the Netherlands in Management field (by FT). The university is also highly appreciated for its high ranking positions taking its age into consideration (sixth place in the 2020 Times Higher Education (THE) 'Young Universities'). My concerns are mostly connected to the recognition of the university by employers, especially in sight of potential candidates from older and worldwide respected universities, such as University of Amsterdam, which was ranked #61 by QS World university ranking and #43 by QS Master Management Ranking. In QS World university ranking Maastricht university was positioned #234 and it is not even present in QS Master Management Ranking.
My educational goal is to get high-class education with a more practical inclination that will allow me to continue my professional career in the Netherlands (I'm from another country), help me to advance in solving "real-life" cases and to improve my interpersonal skills and critical thinking.

As you could notice, I have more sympathy towards Maastricht University because I'm inspired by PBL approach, that I was striving for during my more or less theoretical Bachelor education. Neveretheless, I admit that both universities have their advantages and disadvantages, they both have their educational system that has proved its effectiveness with time. Both unis are great!

However, it would be amazingly helpful if you could share your opinions on that matter because there's no doubt that you have much more knowledge in Business Schools than I do. 

Thanks in advance!
Regards, Nick


<div>Hello everyone,<br></div><div>I need some help with the tough decision:</div><br><div>I have to decide at which of these two universities to do a MIM program: Maastricht University or University of Amsterdam.&nbsp;</div><div>To be more precise, the program at Maastricht University is called "Master in International Business" and the one at Amsterdam University has the name "Master in Business Administration". The content of the programs, however, seems to be quite similar.</div><div><br></div><div>I know that Maastricht University is famous for its Problem Based Learning approach, which is attracting with its supposed proactive attitude towards studies and predominant interaction between students, their opinions, and decisions (in contrast with the conventional approach in which professor plays the main role).&nbsp;</div><br><div>Additionally, Maastricht University was ranked 32 in Financial Times ranking in 2019, making it the second-best university in the Netherlands in Management field (by FT). The university is also highly appreciated for its high ranking positions taking its age into consideration (sixth place in the 2020&nbsp;Times Higher Education (THE) 'Young Universities').</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>My concerns are mostly connected to the recognition of the university by employers, especially in sight of potential candidates from older and worldwide respected universities, such as University of Amsterdam, which was ranked #61 by QS World university ranking and #43 by QS Master Management Ranking. In QS World university ranking Maastricht university was positioned #234 and it is not even present in QS Master Management Ranking.</div><br>My educational goal is to get high-class education with a more practical inclination that will allow me to continue my professional career in the Netherlands (I'm from another country), help me to advance in solving "real-life" cases and to improve my interpersonal skills and critical thinking.<br><br>As you could notice, I have more sympathy towards Maastricht University because I'm inspired by PBL approach, that I was striving for during my more or less theoretical Bachelor education. Neveretheless, I admit that both universities have their advantages and disadvantages, they both have their educational system that has proved its effectiveness with time. Both unis are great!<br><br>However, it would be amazingly helpful if you could share your opinions on that matter because there's no doubt that you have much more knowledge in Business Schools than I do.&nbsp;<br><br>Thanks in advance!<br>Regards, Nick<br><br><br>
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Duncan

Your goal is to work there: both universities are well known and highly respected. Because you are foreign, you probably don't speak Dutch. At UvA, and in Amsterdam generally, you will find it harder to use and learn Dutch. Maastricht is the better option. 

Your goal is to work there: both universities are well known and highly respected. Because you are foreign, you probably don't speak Dutch. At UvA, and in Amsterdam generally, you will find it harder to use and learn Dutch. Maastricht is the better option.&nbsp;
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Thank you, Duncan for the quick response. Why do you think it will be easier to study Dutch in Masstricht. At the end of the day, chances are high that after the program I will find a job in a bigger city anyway, so my 1 year in Maastrich won’t make much difference , especially taking Covid measures into consideration.

Thank you, Duncan for the quick response. Why do you think it will be easier to study Dutch in Masstricht. At the end of the day, chances are high that after the program I will find a job in a bigger city anyway, so my 1 year in Maastrich won’t make much difference , especially taking Covid measures into consideration.<br><br>
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Duncan

Amsterdam is a tourist city full of ex-pats, tourists and foreign students. Many people will switch to English with foreigners and many people in customer service roles don't speak Dutch well. In Maastricht, you will meet more people who speak Dutch and expect you to do so always. 

I guess the chance that anyone will find employment are determined by the ratio of the labour supply to the number of vacancies, and by the unemployment rate. On that basis, it is easier to find work in around Maastricht than in Amsterdam. However, perhaps you are specifically targeting a firm in Amsterdam. 

Amsterdam is a tourist city full of ex-pats, tourists and foreign students. Many people will switch to English with foreigners and many people in customer service roles don't speak Dutch well. In Maastricht, you will meet more people who speak Dutch and expect you to do so always.&nbsp;<br><br>I guess the chance that anyone will find employment are determined by the ratio of the labour supply to the number of vacancies, and by the unemployment rate. On that basis, it is easier to find work in around Maastricht than in Amsterdam. However, perhaps you are specifically targeting a firm in Amsterdam.&nbsp;
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