MBA in Europe - Some Questions


I am currently studying in India and have just finished +2. I am planning to take up BBA but I have a few doubts:

1) Considering I do BBA here in India, can I study MBA in the UK directly after my BBA course here; without any work experience? And I specifically mean the top UK universities. Do they accept BBA graduates without work experience? If so, are there any other eligibility criterion?

2) If I take up B.Com, can I still do MBA in the top UK universities without work experience?

3) What about BBM?

Thanks in advance.

I am currently studying in India and have just finished +2. I am planning to take up BBA but I have a few doubts:

1) Considering I do BBA here in India, can I study MBA in the UK directly after my BBA course here; without any work experience? And I specifically mean the top UK universities. Do they accept BBA graduates without work experience? If so, are there any other eligibility criterion?

2) If I take up B.Com, can I still do MBA in the top UK universities without work experience?

3) What about BBM?

Thanks in advance.
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Mesix

If you are planning to do an MBA, I would recommend that you study something other than business at the Bachelor level. Having diverse experience is what makes you stand out. It also helps to make you a more well rounded candidate for jobs.

I would also recommend that you work for a little while after your undergraduate studies before entering into an MBA program. Companies are not likely to hire you to a high level position out of an MBA program without any work experience. If you accept a low level job after your MBA, you may find it difficult to work your way up. Companies want to see demonstrated accomplishments in both work and academic study.

There is no perfect feeder degree. One of the cohort in my EMBA program has a degree in fashion design. She does top level consulting and manages large projects for Accenture in many different industries. I have seen other successful MBA candidates with degrees in IT, Economics, Public Policy, Chemistry, Engineering, and Architecture.

Get an undergraduate degree in something that interests you. You are more likely to excel and achieve if you are doing something that you are passionate about. Once you have experiences to talk about (both in MBA entrance essays and future job interviews) then apply to an MBA program to take your career to the next level.

If you are planning to do an MBA, I would recommend that you study something other than business at the Bachelor level. Having diverse experience is what makes you stand out. It also helps to make you a more well rounded candidate for jobs.

I would also recommend that you work for a little while after your undergraduate studies before entering into an MBA program. Companies are not likely to hire you to a high level position out of an MBA program without any work experience. If you accept a low level job after your MBA, you may find it difficult to work your way up. Companies want to see demonstrated accomplishments in both work and academic study.

There is no perfect feeder degree. One of the cohort in my EMBA program has a degree in fashion design. She does top level consulting and manages large projects for Accenture in many different industries. I have seen other successful MBA candidates with degrees in IT, Economics, Public Policy, Chemistry, Engineering, and Architecture.

Get an undergraduate degree in something that interests you. You are more likely to excel and achieve if you are doing something that you are passionate about. Once you have experiences to talk about (both in MBA entrance essays and future job interviews) then apply to an MBA program to take your career to the next level.
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Well I understand what you say but there are certain problems:

1) The fact of the matter is I have no interest in studying any course. Except management.

2) I also do not want to work for three or so years to gain the necessary experience for those institutes and then again go back to study.

3) What if I were to study well both at my BBA and MBA courses? And if I were to gain entry to some university like Oxford or whatever for my MBA. Would companies even then give me a low-level job?

4) And as I asked the first time, is it possible at all to do MBA without work experience after doing BBA at those renowned universites?

Well I understand what you say but there are certain problems:

1) The fact of the matter is I have no interest in studying any course. Except management.

2) I also do not want to work for three or so years to gain the necessary experience for those institutes and then again go back to study.

3) What if I were to study well both at my BBA and MBA courses? And if I were to gain entry to some university like Oxford or whatever for my MBA. Would companies even then give me a low-level job?

4) And as I asked the first time, is it possible at all to do MBA without work experience after doing BBA at those renowned universites?
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dulsban

if you are keen on getting into a renowned MBA school in UK, Europe or USA there is one mandatory criteria - considerable work experience. You need to have a proven track record of success as a professional to be able to get in any of the reputed institutes apart from sound academics and impressive extra curriculars. The competition is steep and you need to have the edge over others.
MBA is essentially a course for matured professionals and is not pure academics, I doubt if it is feasible for a person to understand the concepts without anything to relate to. Your work exp allows you to relate the concepts learned with the situations you have seen as a professional. The schools are well aware of this fact.
If you are looking for doing MBA w/o work ex, an Indian MBA would be your best bet...given their strong inclination towards analytics and lower on soft skills and experience.

if you get into a well known and respected Univ like Oxford then companies will certainly be keen to have a look at your capabilities but my 2 cents worth is that Oxford or the likes as an MBA school won't be too keen on freshers.

if you are keen on getting into a renowned MBA school in UK, Europe or USA there is one mandatory criteria - considerable work experience. You need to have a proven track record of success as a professional to be able to get in any of the reputed institutes apart from sound academics and impressive extra curriculars. The competition is steep and you need to have the edge over others.
MBA is essentially a course for matured professionals and is not pure academics, I doubt if it is feasible for a person to understand the concepts without anything to relate to. Your work exp allows you to relate the concepts learned with the situations you have seen as a professional. The schools are well aware of this fact.
If you are looking for doing MBA w/o work ex, an Indian MBA would be your best bet...given their strong inclination towards analytics and lower on soft skills and experience.

if you get into a well known and respected Univ like Oxford then companies will certainly be keen to have a look at your capabilities but my 2 cents worth is that Oxford or the likes as an MBA school won't be too keen on freshers.
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Mesix

Even good schools in India might be tough without work experience. Here is the requirements for the one year full time program at ISB in Hyderabad:

"One of the important reasons why we?ve been ranked 12th in the world is our students. We look to recruit students from a variety of backgrounds, nationalities, education and experience, to enable a vibrant and diverse learning experience.

To be eligible to apply you must meet the following requirements:

A Bachelor?s degree in any discipline.
Preferably two years of full-time work experience after graduation.
GMAT score
TOEFL / IELTS / PTE score, only if language of instruction during under graduate education was not English."

Now it does say preferably, so maybe if you do well in undergrad studies they will wave the experience requirement. You don't know until you cross that hurdle.

Even if you can get into ISB (or Oxford or Harvard), what then? Are you planning to have the name on the degree carry you through the interview? Imagine this list of candidates:

Candidate 1: Received MBA from Boston College and has 10 years of experience in middle management and line positions in the same industry.

Candidate 2: Received MBA from University of Phoenix and has proven track record of success on numerous projects over a 15 year career prior to MBA.

Candidate 3: Received MBA from Harvard and has no work experience.

Who would you hire for an important management position?

The thing is that you will likely get a higher level job with an MBA than you will without an MBA. If you have experience and a track record of success to go with the MBA, you are likely to get a higher position still. Once you land that first job out of business school, future employers are more interested in what you have done than what you have learned. If you start as a profit center manager with your MBA, you have to work your way up. If you have some experience prior to your MBA and start as a senior manager or VP, then you do not have to climb as far to get to the top.

The bottom line is that you have to market yourself. When you graduate with an MBA, you will be competing for jobs with other MBA graduates. They will have job experience. Some of them will have a lot of job experience. What will you have to set yourself apart from the herd?

Even good schools in India might be tough without work experience. Here is the requirements for the one year full time program at ISB in Hyderabad:

"One of the important reasons why we?ve been ranked 12th in the world is our students. We look to recruit students from a variety of backgrounds, nationalities, education and experience, to enable a vibrant and diverse learning experience.

To be eligible to apply you must meet the following requirements:

A Bachelor?s degree in any discipline.
Preferably two years of full-time work experience after graduation.
GMAT score
TOEFL / IELTS / PTE score, only if language of instruction during under graduate education was not English."

Now it does say preferably, so maybe if you do well in undergrad studies they will wave the experience requirement. You don't know until you cross that hurdle.

Even if you can get into ISB (or Oxford or Harvard), what then? Are you planning to have the name on the degree carry you through the interview? Imagine this list of candidates:

Candidate 1: Received MBA from Boston College and has 10 years of experience in middle management and line positions in the same industry.

Candidate 2: Received MBA from University of Phoenix and has proven track record of success on numerous projects over a 15 year career prior to MBA.

Candidate 3: Received MBA from Harvard and has no work experience.

Who would you hire for an important management position?

The thing is that you will likely get a higher level job with an MBA than you will without an MBA. If you have experience and a track record of success to go with the MBA, you are likely to get a higher position still. Once you land that first job out of business school, future employers are more interested in what you have done than what you have learned. If you start as a profit center manager with your MBA, you have to work your way up. If you have some experience prior to your MBA and start as a senior manager or VP, then you do not have to climb as far to get to the top.

The bottom line is that you have to market yourself. When you graduate with an MBA, you will be competing for jobs with other MBA graduates. They will have job experience. Some of them will have a lot of job experience. What will you have to set yourself apart from the herd?
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fishball

I think some work experience would do you good and give you a different perspective on things... :)

I think some work experience would do you good and give you a different perspective on things... :)
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I'm planning to find marketing MBA in England, Leeds.
What can you advice?

I'm planning to find marketing MBA in England, Leeds.
What can you advice?
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I understand the above points, but there's one thing. As far as I am aware, a BBA graduate is usually admitted in any MBA institutes without work experience simply because he is a BBA graduate.An engineering or commerce student etc need work experience, but a BBA graduate does not. So the experiment requirement does not come into play at all, at least for studying an MBA in a top university. As for the job thing, well, that's for later.

I understand the above points, but there's one thing. As far as I am aware, a BBA graduate is usually admitted in any MBA institutes without work experience simply because he is a BBA graduate.An engineering or commerce student etc need work experience, but a BBA graduate does not. So the experiment requirement does not come into play at all, at least for studying an MBA in a top university. As for the job thing, well, that's for later.
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ralph

As far as I am aware, a BBA graduate is usually admitted in any MBA institutes without work experience simply because he is a BBA graduate.


As far as I'm aware, this is not true. Please point us to your sources, or top MBA programs that say this is ok.

<blockquote>As far as I am aware, a BBA graduate is usually admitted in any MBA institutes without work experience simply because he is a BBA graduate.</blockquote>

As far as I'm aware, this is not true. Please point us to your sources, or top MBA programs that say this is ok.
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