I was admitted to HWR BSEL Full-MBA in Berlin and I found just few information about alumni, reputation, etc.
It´s an accredited program (AMBA, FIBAA), international oriented, taken in English, fair value (EUR17,800) because German higher education is still supported by public funding in the country even for foreigners. But Germany is not traditional in MBAs and it is a Fachhochschule and not an Universitat.
Does anyone has more qualitative information about the course?
It´s not in the standards rankings but it´s above the average in the Zeit German ranking: http://ranking.zeit.de/che2015/en/fachbereich/100019
PS: I am Brazilian, I don´t speak German, I have 8 years’ experience after undergraduation (in banking) and I am planning a carreer shift.
HWR BSEL Full MBA - qualitative infos for a 8 years’ experienced candidate
Posted Aug 18, 2015 16:04
It´s an accredited program (AMBA, FIBAA), international oriented, taken in English, fair value (EUR17,800) because German higher education is still supported by public funding in the country even for foreigners. But Germany is not traditional in MBAs and it is a Fachhochschule and not an Universitat.
Does anyone has more qualitative information about the course?
It´s not in the standards rankings but it´s above the average in the Zeit German ranking: http://ranking.zeit.de/che2015/en/fachbereich/100019
PS: I am Brazilian, I don´t speak German, I have 8 years’ experience after undergraduation (in banking) and I am planning a carreer shift.
Posted Aug 18, 2015 17:49
I think the low price of the MBA at HWR really reflects low costs rather than subsidies. The programme fee will be above the marginal cost there. Given the dire economic situation of the city of Berlin, which funds HWR, I can't see that there will be a subsidy to the programme.
What sort of career are you looking to shift into, and in what country?
What sort of career are you looking to shift into, and in what country?
Posted Aug 18, 2015 19:34
Thank you, Duncan.
Career shift: some innovative technology company / creative economy. Berlin attracts me because of the startup scene even if I still don´t speak German. Since I am native in Portuguese, bilingual in Italian and fluent in Spanish, Europe would be a choice but it would be realistic to consider going back to Brazil.
PS: For me now it´s a good timing to start the MBA because Brazil is inside a political / economical crisis. Moreover, I am already 32 years old.
Career shift: some innovative technology company / creative economy. Berlin attracts me because of the startup scene even if I still don´t speak German. Since I am native in Portuguese, bilingual in Italian and fluent in Spanish, Europe would be a choice but it would be realistic to consider going back to Brazil.
PS: For me now it´s a good timing to start the MBA because Brazil is inside a political / economical crisis. Moreover, I am already 32 years old.
Posted Aug 18, 2015 20:05
There is a start-up scene everywhere in big European cities. Berlin stands out only because, with the terrible economic position and high unemployment, it's the only thing happening there. Considering your languages, why not take the MIT-Lisbon MBA, or study at a top school in Italy or Spain? IE, ESADE, Politecnico di Milano, or the Scuola Superiore Sant’Anna innovation MSc (http://international.unitn.it/main/master-innovation-management) would all be lower risk.
Posted Aug 19, 2015 04:15
Very good points, Duncan. I considered Germany also because of its economy and spirit. Some Spanish are very well ranked but jobs prospects may be a problem.
Posted Aug 19, 2015 18:29
Well, if ESADE is an option then let's recall that Barcelona has a better economy than Berlin, and that ESADE alumni are more mobile.
Posted Oct 24, 2015 09:33
About Start-up scene in Berlin:
gu.com/p/4dfhh/swa
gu.com/p/4dfhh/swa
Posted Oct 24, 2015 12:16
Of course the question here is not whether there are start-ups in Berlin, but whether they hire MBAs who don't speak German from the city's Fachhochschulen into MBA-level roles.
[Edited by Duncan on Oct 25, 2015]
Posted Oct 25, 2015 09:54
Sure. I decided to do it because of personal timing but these are big issue. Duncan, you are very perspicacious, thank you for all your contribution.
Posted Oct 30, 2015 07:38
If you're city-agnostic, ESADE is a great choice but why not also consider IE? The school's probably one of the best in Europe for entrepreneurship, Madrid has a hopping startup scene, and - perhaps importantly to you or perhaps not - the Spanish government is really pumping money into startups and international entrepreneurs. Berlin is a great city but the buzz around its startup scene is mostly hype.
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