Goods news for the 'next three' of French business schools today: http://find-mba.com/news/2016/12/financial-times-2016-european-business-school-rankings While HEC, ESSEC and ESCP are the leaders in most French rankings, the next three challengers have all risen in today's FT ranking. EDHEC has risen an amazing 11 places, to 14th in Europe, while ESSEC is just 18th.
France: FT's good news for EDHEC, EM Lyon and Grenoble
Posted Dec 12, 2016 17:10
Posted Dec 12, 2016 17:28
The ranking seems a bit odd to me, though. Does the methodology penalize a school for not offering one of these five program types? The numbers suggest so - or do I miss something here?
Quote from the FT page "SSE does not have a ranked MBA and so is ranked on four courses instead of the maximum five, limiting its overall score."
[Edited by Dan85 on Dec 12, 2016]
Quote from the FT page "SSE does not have a ranked MBA and so is ranked on four courses instead of the maximum five, limiting its overall score."
Posted Dec 12, 2016 17:58
Yes, and I think that's reasonable. An MSc school without an MBA is less impactful than a school with both an MSc suite of the same strength and also an MBA.
Posted Dec 13, 2016 09:51
I would rank Schools only by employer recognition and\or employability, salary. All the rest like international experience and student satisfaction should just serve an oweral goal: your recognition by the market. I guess size of the school and even simply recognized name help
people to remember the school name.
I was surprised that ESMT Berlin which is ranked hight is almost no-name in Bernlin because of its size.
[Edited by Andy_B on Dec 13, 2016]
people to remember the school name.
I was surprised that ESMT Berlin which is ranked hight is almost no-name in Bernlin because of its size.
Posted Dec 13, 2016 10:36
Obviously those are the major factors in the weighting of the rankings. Other data are certainly useful. If you are an international student looking to move to Germany then international mobility is more important than salary.
Why are you surprised that a new and tiny school teaching in English is not widely known in Berlin? Outside business circles, I find that lots of people assume that when i say London Business School that i must mean the LSE. These are not consumer brands, let alone schools with large numbers of domestic students.
Why are you surprised that a new and tiny school teaching in English is not widely known in Berlin? Outside business circles, I find that lots of people assume that when i say London Business School that i must mean the LSE. These are not consumer brands, let alone schools with large numbers of domestic students.
Posted Dec 13, 2016 22:53
Why are you surprised that a new and tiny school teaching in English is not widely known in Berlin? Outside business circles, I find that lots of people assume that when i say London Business School that i must mean the LSE. These are not consumer brands, let alone schools with large numbers of domestic students.
I was surprized because I was looking for some good program, so I look on the ranking and see that this school is one of the highest ranked not only in Germany but in whole Europe. I expected that good scores mean easy to find a job. Why I expected that? Well, just my personal experience, which seems to be wrong. In 3 countries I used to live\work (Scandinavia and Eastern Europe) FT rank represents employability\promition opportunity. For example, with BI, CBS or SSE degree you will always get a job on local market, no matter what.
I can tell you only about Scandinavia: both LSE and LBS have incredible ranking if you ask common citizen in a pub. They just love it, I have checked it myself :) I am not sure they know the difference between them, but they say something like: Warwick? what is that? LSE? wow, Anna went to LSE, can you imagine how smart she is?
[Edited by Andy_B on Dec 13, 2016]
Why are you surprised that a new and tiny school teaching in English is not widely known in Berlin? Outside business circles, I find that lots of people assume that when i say London Business School that i must mean the LSE. These are not consumer brands, let alone schools with large numbers of domestic students.[/quote]
I was surprized because I was looking for some good program, so I look on the ranking and see that this school is one of the highest ranked not only in Germany but in whole Europe. I expected that good scores mean easy to find a job. Why I expected that? Well, just my personal experience, which seems to be wrong. In 3 countries I used to live\work (Scandinavia and Eastern Europe) FT rank represents employability\promition opportunity. For example, with BI, CBS or SSE degree you will always get a job on local market, no matter what.
I can tell you only about Scandinavia: both LSE and LBS have incredible ranking if you ask common citizen in a pub. They just love it, I have checked it myself :) I am not sure they know the difference between them, but they say something like: Warwick? what is that? LSE? wow, Anna went to LSE, can you imagine how smart she is?
Posted Dec 14, 2016 02:50
Esmt is more successful at placing international MBAs than CBS. Its just not well known. That is not a problem unless you want a guy in the pub to hire you. And the average guy in a London pub has not heard of LBS. I am an LBS alum.
Posted Dec 19, 2016 19:21
Goods news for the 'next three' of French business schools today: http://find-mba.com/news/2016/12/financial-times-2016-european-business-school-rankings While HEC, ESSEC and ESCP are the leaders in most French rankings, the next three challengers have all risen in today's FT ranking. EDHEC has risen an amazing 11 places, to 14th in Europe, while ESSEC is just 18th.
That EDHEC jump is crazy. Maybe that's the result of it finally placing in the MBA Ranking this year?
That EDHEC jump is crazy. Maybe that's the result of it finally placing in the MBA Ranking this year?
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