Fall in RSM rankings


ziyad30
Hi,
According to financial times Rotterdam School of Management was ranked at 31 in 2017, 37 in 2018 and 55 in 2019. Can anyone provide insights into why this drastic fall in ranking is happening?

Thanks in advance
Hi,
According to financial times Rotterdam School of Management was ranked at 31 in 2017, 37 in 2018 and 55 in 2019. Can anyone provide insights into why this drastic fall in ranking is happening?

Thanks in advance
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Duncan
It's not a drastic fall in the rankings. Read the footnote about the groups under the table. There's a very tight cluster, and falling from 37 to 55 is a tiny shift. The fall in **almost all** Euro-zone schools' ranking can be explained almost fully by the fall of the Euro against the dollar in 2018. https://uk.tradingview.com/symbols/EURUSD/
It's not a drastic fall in the rankings. Read the footnote about the groups under the table. There's a very tight cluster, and falling from 37 to 55 is a tiny shift. The fall in **almost all** Euro-zone schools' ranking can be explained almost fully by the fall of the Euro against the dollar in 2018. https://uk.tradingview.com/symbols/EURUSD/
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ziyad30
It's not a drastic fall in the rankings. Read the footnote about the groups under the table. There's a very tight cluster, and falling from 37 to 55 is a tiny shift. The fall in **almost all** Euro-zone schools' ranking can be explained almost fully by the fall of the Euro against the dollar in 2018. https://uk.tradingview.com/symbols/EURUSD/


Hi,
Thanks for pointing out the footer at the bottom of the table. After checking out the euro zone schools I can see that most of the programs in the bottom half of the FT rankings have fell and as you said it must be due to the weaker euro. However I can see that the better European schools such as HEC, IE, ESADE have all managed to retain their rankings while RSM has dropped from a group 2 school in 2017 to a group 3 school at the present. This makes me wonder, is RSM not a top European program anymore?

[Edited by ziyad30 on Sep 02, 2019]

[quote]It's not a drastic fall in the rankings. Read the footnote about the groups under the table. There's a very tight cluster, and falling from 37 to 55 is a tiny shift. The fall in **almost all** Euro-zone schools' ranking can be explained almost fully by the fall of the Euro against the dollar in 2018. https://uk.tradingview.com/symbols/EURUSD/ [/quote]

Hi,
Thanks for pointing out the footer at the bottom of the table. After checking out the euro zone schools I can see that most of the programs in the bottom half of the FT rankings have fell and as you said it must be due to the weaker euro. However I can see that the better European schools such as HEC, IE, ESADE have all managed to retain their rankings while RSM has dropped from a group 2 school in 2017 to a group 3 school at the present. This makes me wonder, is RSM not a top European program anymore?
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Duncan
It was 39th in 2014... I think schools just bounce around a bit. I have no idea how far you would need to go to find RSM above the other schools you mention. It's been a long time since RSM was comfortably in the European top ten. 20 years ago there were no strong German MBAs and RSM was the go-to MBA school for people from the DACh countries. German speakers can hit the ground running with Dutch in the way that others don't. So as the cohort has become more global it's probably placing students into different roles. I was admitted to RSM's full time MBA in 2000, and even then it was wasn't like HEC.
It was 39th in 2014... I think schools just bounce around a bit. I have no idea how far you would need to go to find RSM above the other schools you mention. It's been a long time since RSM was comfortably in the European top ten. 20 years ago there were no strong German MBAs and RSM was the go-to MBA school for people from the DACh countries. German speakers can hit the ground running with Dutch in the way that others don't. So as the cohort has become more global it's probably placing students into different roles. I was admitted to RSM's full time MBA in 2000, and even then it was wasn't like HEC.
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ziyad30
It was 39th in 2014... I think schools just bounce around a bit. I have no idea how far you would need to go to find RSM above the other schools you mention. It's been a long time since RSM was comfortably in the European top ten. 20 years ago there were no strong German MBAs and RSM was the go-to MBA school for people from the DACh countries. German speakers can hit the ground running with Dutch in the way that others don't. So as the cohort has become more global it's probably placing students into different roles. I was admitted to RSM's full time MBA in 2000, and even then it was wasn't like HEC.


Thanks for the insight Duncan. Much appreciated.
[quote]It was 39th in 2014... I think schools just bounce around a bit. I have no idea how far you would need to go to find RSM above the other schools you mention. It's been a long time since RSM was comfortably in the European top ten. 20 years ago there were no strong German MBAs and RSM was the go-to MBA school for people from the DACh countries. German speakers can hit the ground running with Dutch in the way that others don't. So as the cohort has become more global it's probably placing students into different roles. I was admitted to RSM's full time MBA in 2000, and even then it was wasn't like HEC. [/quote]

Thanks for the insight Duncan. Much appreciated.
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Razors Edg...
While I agree that the fall is mostly attributed to the fall of the euro vs the dollar, there are still other qualitative indicators in the ranking that should be taken into consideration. Primarily there was a big decline in the Career Progress Rank score, which calculates the change in seniority for grads.

But generally grads were similarly happy with the program between last year and this year ("Aims Achieved" hasn't changed, and overall employment within three months is down slightly, from 96% to 92%).
While I agree that the fall is mostly attributed to the fall of the euro vs the dollar, there are still other qualitative indicators in the ranking that should be taken into consideration. Primarily there was a big decline in the Career Progress Rank score, which calculates the change in seniority for grads.

But generally grads were similarly happy with the program between last year and this year ("Aims Achieved" hasn't changed, and overall employment within three months is down slightly, from 96% to 92%).
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Duncan
I think the rise of new competitors and the gradual fall of the western Europe means that most European schools will have a long slow landing.
I think the rise of new competitors and the gradual fall of the western Europe means that most European schools will have a long slow landing.
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