ESADE or RSM


easy

Ive beed accepted to two MBA programs ESADE and RSM. I am engineer and after MBA want to work in marketing in western Europe. What do you think about both schools, what would be your preference and why?

Evaldas

Ive beed accepted to two MBA programs ESADE and RSM. I am engineer and after MBA want to work in marketing in western Europe. What do you think about both schools, what would be your preference and why?

Evaldas
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Roland

According to the Economist, ESADE is ranked higher (34th) than RSM (89th). On the other hand, ESADE is behind IESE and Instituto de Empresa in Spain. Locationwise, I would give a strong preference for Spain since Rotterdam is rather dull (at least in my experience).

According to the Economist, ESADE is ranked higher (34th) than RSM (89th). On the other hand, ESADE is behind IESE and Instituto de Empresa in Spain. Locationwise, I would give a strong preference for Spain since Rotterdam is rather dull (at least in my experience).
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Barto

Here in Asia ESADE has an excellent reputation, mostly for finance, but also for marketing.

Here in Asia ESADE has an excellent reputation, mostly for finance, but also for marketing.
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ESADE is certainly far better than RSM. ....as attested by many of my friends who have attended these schools. So a clear green signal for ESADE...........good luck

ESADE is certainly far better than RSM. ....as attested by many of my friends who have attended these schools. So a clear green signal for ESADE...........good luck
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Roland

Do your friends also have experience with the other schools in Spain? IESE appears to be the best one over there, can you confirm this?

Do your friends also have experience with the other schools in Spain? IESE appears to be the best one over there, can you confirm this?
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economist quite likes IESE, ESADE, and someplace called IE de Impresa in Madrid. spain's movin on up.

economist quite likes IESE, ESADE, and someplace called IE de Impresa in Madrid. spain's movin on up.
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James

And EADA also is climbing up. it is the fourth one accredited in Spain and is groowing, growing....

And EADA also is climbing up. it is the fourth one accredited in Spain and is groowing, growing....
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mugsy

Hi easy,
the most important business school in Spain are IESE and ESADE, I'm from Barcelona and I have no doubts.

EADA and IE are also good but if I were you I would go to ESADE. Between IESE and ESADE the difference is very very low.

Hi easy,
the most important business school in Spain are IESE and ESADE, I'm from Barcelona and I have no doubts.

EADA and IE are also good but if I were you I would go to ESADE. Between IESE and ESADE the difference is very very low.
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Mugsy,

I would love to hear more from you as a native Spaniard about ESADE vs. IESE vs. IE. I've already been accepted to ESADE and IE and am waiting to hear back from IESE. I think I would prefer to live in Barcelona rather than Madrid, but I have heard that IE's academics and reputation are far superior to those of ESADE. What are your thoughts?

Mugsy,

I would love to hear more from you as a native Spaniard about ESADE vs. IESE vs. IE. I've already been accepted to ESADE and IE and am waiting to hear back from IESE. I think I would prefer to live in Barcelona rather than Madrid, but I have heard that IE's academics and reputation are far superior to those of ESADE. What are your thoughts?
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vinikrec

Mugsy ,

Im Vini from India and would like to know more about ESADE's post MBA job scenario . Could you throw some light on it ?

Thanks
Vini

Mugsy ,

Im Vini from India and would like to know more about ESADE's post MBA job scenario . Could you throw some light on it ?

Thanks
Vini
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Pere

uconnjay13,

Hi, I?m from Spain too, and I know a little about IE and ESADE
Both are really good business schools, but ESADE seems to be more European than IE. In the IE a big percentage of alumni comes from south America.

Both are well ranked, and share the same position in Spain, just a steep backward IESE.

Regards,

uconnjay13,

Hi, I?m from Spain too, and I know a little about IE and ESADE
Both are really good business schools, but ESADE seems to be more European than IE. In the IE a big percentage of alumni comes from south America.

Both are well ranked, and share the same position in Spain, just a steep backward IESE.

Regards,



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LP

Pere, how do you know that IE has more south American students than ESADE? Do you have the actual data?

Pere, how do you know that IE has more south American students than ESADE? Do you have the actual data?
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Sunnyboy

Guys any idea about Nanyang MBA ? i mean as an European student doing an MBA in Asia would it be an wise choice?

Guys any idea about Nanyang MBA ? i mean as an European student doing an MBA in Asia would it be an wise choice?
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Pere

Jaitego,

I don?t have the current figures from this year. I remember (with some doubts?) the figures from 2005/06, I don?t know why IE and ESADE doesn?t publish the figures for the current year.

But just give a look to the countries and where the schools are planning their information sessions.
http://www.esade.edu/bs/mba/about_mba/sesiones_informativas
http://www.ie.edu/eng/programas/mba/mba_elprograma.asp

Regards,
Pere.

Jaitego,

I don?t have the current figures from this year. I remember (with some doubts?) the figures from 2005/06, I don?t know why IE and ESADE doesn?t publish the figures for the current year.

But just give a look to the countries and where the schools are planning their information sessions.
http://www.esade.edu/bs/mba/about_mba/sesiones_informativas
http://www.ie.edu/eng/programas/mba/mba_elprograma.asp

Regards,
Pere.
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LP

When schools don't give too much information, I always suspect there's something wrong going on. Thank you for the links. Unfortunately, knowing in which countries the school plans to have information sessions does not tell you what percentage of students comes from each country.

When schools don't give too much information, I always suspect there's something wrong going on. Thank you for the links. Unfortunately, knowing in which countries the school plans to have information sessions does not tell you what percentage of students comes from each country.
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James

Hi, all the spanish schools have a big percentage of latin america students, as UK B schools have a lot from India or Asia in general, they speak the same language and have some similar features in their culture.

Ie and Esade have a big percentage as the others, may be there are some points of difference between the two, but is not the distinguishing point, focus more on the ranking, on the course CV or even the location, barcelona and Madrid are quite different cities.

Regards

Hi, all the spanish schools have a big percentage of latin america students, as UK B schools have a lot from India or Asia in general, they speak the same language and have some similar features in their culture.

Ie and Esade have a big percentage as the others, may be there are some points of difference between the two, but is not the distinguishing point, focus more on the ranking, on the course CV or even the location, barcelona and Madrid are quite different cities.

Regards
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katalina

Hello James,
The main reason for the huge presence of Latin American students in most Spanish BSchools is of course language. As it is for the presence of students from Commonwealth countries in British BSchools.
This concerns as much instruction language as the every day language spoken in both countries.

But I'm not so sure about the conlcusion to draw from this "overpresence", relatively speaking. I think that really "international" schools, meaning those which have an international appeal (proceeding from various factors)among important international companies, will have a quite similar composition of classes, because they are attractive for the international crowd of highly qualified students.
Of course location still has some influence - INSEAD in Singapore will attract more Asians, than INCAE in Costa Rica or IE in Spain, logically.

Anyways, I will take into account those informations about the origin of students. After all, if I go to Spain to do an MBA, I want to learn and get used to international business style, not Latin American.

Just my personal view point..

Hello James,
The main reason for the huge presence of Latin American students in most Spanish BSchools is of course language. As it is for the presence of students from Commonwealth countries in British BSchools.
This concerns as much instruction language as the every day language spoken in both countries.

But I'm not so sure about the conlcusion to draw from this "overpresence", relatively speaking. I think that really "international" schools, meaning those which have an international appeal (proceeding from various factors)among important international companies, will have a quite similar composition of classes, because they are attractive for the international crowd of highly qualified students.
Of course location still has some influence - INSEAD in Singapore will attract more Asians, than INCAE in Costa Rica or IE in Spain, logically.

Anyways, I will take into account those informations about the origin of students. After all, if I go to Spain to do an MBA, I want to learn and get used to international business style, not Latin American.

Just my personal view point..
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James

Hi Kata,

It is right what you say, it is all right, because there are lots of parameters to consider, as it is in life. To choose an MBA you need to establish your priorities:
- Quality and fame of the institution, price and length of the MBA (i.e.how long you want to study, how much can you afford to pay?)
- Location: appeal of the place, weather, chances of remaining working in that city or that country(i.e. If your dream is to move to france, it is better you do not do the MBA in US, if instead you want to go back to your country or going anywhere, you have more options to choose)
- Philosophy of the school, more theory oriented, more case methodology(how many classes are pure lectures? How many are only cases methodology)
- Composition of class, which ethnic gripus are presents? Special geographical area? (A class of Asian will be much quiter than a class made of european or latin american in terms of participations).
- Career possibilities (where you want to work afterwards? Hi-tech finance, how important is your MBA in those fields?)

Set your priorities and make your decision (time is running when are you going to decide?)

Hi Kata,

It is right what you say, it is all right, because there are lots of parameters to consider, as it is in life. To choose an MBA you need to establish your priorities:
- Quality and fame of the institution, price and length of the MBA (i.e.how long you want to study, how much can you afford to pay?)
- Location: appeal of the place, weather, chances of remaining working in that city or that country(i.e. If your dream is to move to france, it is better you do not do the MBA in US, if instead you want to go back to your country or going anywhere, you have more options to choose)
- Philosophy of the school, more theory oriented, more case methodology(how many classes are pure lectures? How many are only cases methodology)
- Composition of class, which ethnic gripus are presents? Special geographical area? (A class of Asian will be much quiter than a class made of european or latin american in terms of participations).
- Career possibilities (where you want to work afterwards? Hi-tech finance, how important is your MBA in those fields?)

Set your priorities and make your decision (time is running when are you going to decide?)
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EUMBA

I am an Indian currently working in US and wanted to work in Europe post MBA and am trying to decide if RSM is better than IE for me. I am interested in consultancy. Are there lots of opportunities for non-spanish speaking people after finishing their MBA from IE? Although IE is ranked better than RSM in FT does it still provide a better global outreach?

I am an Indian currently working in US and wanted to work in Europe post MBA and am trying to decide if RSM is better than IE for me. I am interested in consultancy. Are there lots of opportunities for non-spanish speaking people after finishing their MBA from IE? Although IE is ranked better than RSM in FT does it still provide a better global outreach?
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SingleSpai...

EUMBA,

Being 20 or 25 in the FT, does not matter the difference. Rankings are just a proxy, nothing else, then it comes your screening and your ability to get admisions.
I would ask to both schools: % of people working in consultancy, top recruiters in the sector, and similar cuestions. Ask also for work permits, for instance, working in the netherlands maybe eeasier then in Spain. As for Spanish Schools, also consider IESE and Esade.

EUMBA,

Being 20 or 25 in the FT, does not matter the difference. Rankings are just a proxy, nothing else, then it comes your screening and your ability to get admisions.
I would ask to both schools: % of people working in consultancy, top recruiters in the sector, and similar cuestions. Ask also for work permits, for instance, working in the netherlands maybe eeasier then in Spain. As for Spanish Schools, also consider IESE and Esade.



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