Choose MBA in Germany

ClaudiaM

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Posted Aug 11, 2016 20:14

Hi All,
Please I need your help, I am trying to choose a University to study my part time MBA. Maybe I could afford one of the following options:
- Maastricht University School of Business and Economics
- HHL
- ISM Dortmund
I would like to have your option about this investment, Does it worth?
I live in Dortmund, therefore for me would be easier to study in ISM Dortmund. Nevertheless I have my doubts about its recognition since it does not appear in any ranking.
What would be your advice?
Thank you !!!

[Edited by ClaudiaM on Aug 11, 2016]

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badux

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Posted Aug 12, 2016 11:54

HHL will provide much better career support and networking opportunities than ISM.

What are your career goals?

If you live in Germany and want to stay in Germany after graduation, it might be better to do an MBA in German.

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Dan85

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Posted Aug 12, 2016 13:54

... or to simply do an Master in Management (BWL) from a well-known German University.

1) Cheaper (basically free)
2) Employers know and value it (MBAs from non-elite schools are viewed as a joke in Germany, in my experience)

[Edited by Dan85 on Aug 12, 2016]

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RobPM

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Posted Aug 18, 2016 15:04

Hello everybody, I am planning to follow a MBA as well to switch from my functional area to a general one (project management at a construction company into a general management in the heavy industry). But I have the same doubt, I have a MSc from the University of Manchester which ranking is really good globally, but this time I would like to work in Germany after graduation, I am Chilean and a Mechanical engineer here. I am not sure about what option is better:

1. Follow the MBA at HHL (29.000 euros fee) good MBA Ranking in Europe.
2. The MSc in management from the TUM (free basically) well know technical university and located in Munich.

Not sure which one would help me better in the German Market. Any advice or experience about it?

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ClaudiaM

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Posted Aug 19, 2016 08:56

Hi Badux and Dan85,

Unfortunately, I do not speak German that is why I am looking for a MBA in English. I already work in Germany in an Englishs speaking company. I would like to continue working in Germany or in a different country in Europe. That is why I would like to have your advice regarding the mentioned universities (Maastricht University School of Business and Economics and HHL). I was also considering WHU, but I am not sure if I can afford it :(

Thank you !!!

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Dan85

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Posted Aug 19, 2016 09:36

Hello everybody, I am planning to follow a MBA as well to switch from my functional area to a general one (project management at a construction company into a general management in the heavy industry). But I have the same doubt, I have a MSc from the University of Manchester which ranking is really good globally, but this time I would like to work in Germany after graduation, I am Chilean and a Mechanical engineer here. I am not sure about what option is better:

1. Follow the MBA at HHL (29.000 euros fee) good MBA Ranking in Europe.
2. The MSc in management from the TUM (free basically) well know technical university and located in Munich.

Not sure which one would help me better in the German Market. Any advice or experience about it?

That's a hard one. From the industry you target, I'd lean towards TU München just because you target manufacturing companies and many of their employees will be from TUM. It is very well possible that the program at HHL all by itself is better in terms of teaching and specialization, but TUM has a strong halo effect on the engineering and manufacturing sector in Germany.

Which companies exactly do you target?

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[quote]Hello everybody, I am planning to follow a MBA as well to switch from my functional area to a general one (project management at a construction company into a general management in the heavy industry). But I have the same doubt, I have a MSc from the University of Manchester which ranking is really good globally, but this time I would like to work in Germany after graduation, I am Chilean and a Mechanical engineer here. I am not sure about what option is better:

1. Follow the MBA at HHL (29.000 euros fee) good MBA Ranking in Europe.
2. The MSc in management from the TUM (free basically) well know technical university and located in Munich.

Not sure which one would help me better in the German Market. Any advice or experience about it?[/quote]

That's a hard one. From the industry you target, I'd lean towards TU München just because you target manufacturing companies and many of their employees will be from TUM. It is very well possible that the program at HHL all by itself is better in terms of teaching and specialization, but TUM has a strong halo effect on the engineering and manufacturing sector in Germany.

Which companies exactly do you target?

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RobPM

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Posted Aug 25, 2016 23:04

Hi Dan85, I am targeting construction or manufacturing companies such as AUDI, BMW Group, ThyssenKrupp or maybe switch into consulting companies such as Mckinsey, Deloitte or a similar one. I have looked for the different business school and their alumni, very interesting lots of engineers seems to work in consulting firms after their MBA or MSc in general management. I was thinking about Alliance Manchester too, but not sure if I want to go back to the UK and then move to Germany, impressive ranking they have though and I have a 20% discount because I graduated from it two years ago.

The thing is that I want to learn about general management, finance, business, economy and operations and I would like to follow a strong program. Not sure if ESMT could give that if it lasts only 12 months. What do you think?

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RobPM

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Posted Aug 25, 2016 23:04

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Dan85

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Posted Aug 26, 2016 10:46

Hi Dan85, I am targeting construction or manufacturing companies such as AUDI, BMW Group, ThyssenKrupp ?

until here: TUM for the reasons stated above (make sure, you get enough engeneering classes 'on the side').

or maybe switch into consulting companies such as Mckinsey, Deloitte or a similar one. I have looked for the different business school and their alumni, very interesting lots of engineers seems to work in consulting firms after their MBA or MSc in general management. I was thinking about Alliance Manchester too, but not sure if I want to go back to the UK and then move to Germany, impressive ranking they have though and I have a 20% discount because I graduated from it two years ago.

The thing is that I want to learn about general management, finance, business, economy and operations and I would like to follow a strong program. Not sure if ESMT could give that if it lasts only 12 months. What do you think?

Do you want to do Consulting also in Germany? How is your German? Unless it is really good, Consulting companies will have a hard time to staff you. My experience from 4.5 years at one of the companies you named: 90% of the projects were solely in German. In the industry (BWM, Audi etc.) I'd assume you can make it further without German.

If you want to do Consulting somewhere else (e.g. UK), it basically boils down to: Pick the school that places best in Consulting. I wouldn't be worried too much about the 12 month format. Since consulting is learning by doing anyways, you just need the entry ticket (i.e. the MBA degree from a school with a strong footprint in the sector).

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[quote]Hi Dan85, I am targeting construction or manufacturing companies such as AUDI, BMW Group, ThyssenKrupp ?[/quote]

until here: TUM for the reasons stated above (make sure, you get enough engeneering classes 'on the side').

[quote] or maybe switch into consulting companies such as Mckinsey, Deloitte or a similar one. I have looked for the different business school and their alumni, very interesting lots of engineers seems to work in consulting firms after their MBA or MSc in general management. I was thinking about Alliance Manchester too, but not sure if I want to go back to the UK and then move to Germany, impressive ranking they have though and I have a 20% discount because I graduated from it two years ago.

The thing is that I want to learn about general management, finance, business, economy and operations and I would like to follow a strong program. Not sure if ESMT could give that if it lasts only 12 months. What do you think?[/quote]

Do you want to do Consulting also in Germany? How is your German? Unless it is really good, Consulting companies will have a hard time to staff you. My experience from 4.5 years at one of the companies you named: 90% of the projects were solely in German. In the industry (BWM, Audi etc.) I'd assume you can make it further without German.

If you want to do Consulting somewhere else (e.g. UK), it basically boils down to: Pick the school that places best in Consulting. I wouldn't be worried too much about the 12 month format. Since consulting is learning by doing anyways, you just need the entry ticket (i.e. the MBA degree from a school with a strong footprint in the sector).

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