CBS Copenhagen - worthwhile?


EUUK
Am in a painful dilemma and will soon have to decide whether to pay the deposit.

Reasons I'm hesitating:
1) 29 F, East Asian. If I should return to Asia, will a CBS MBA have any value-add to my profile? Given it's practically unknown in APAC, Is it really an irrational choice?
2) 6yr w/e in financial publishing/editorial, ~zero chance to land a job in Denmark/EU?
3) partial tuition fee reduction, but is it worth the $ afterall given above points? Altho I do look fwd to the unique scandi experience of studying and possibly working in the ctry, a primary reason why I applied.

ps. also got in a social psychology program in LSE, an area am interested in but not necessarily career oriented. Torn. Any advice + opinion?

[Edited by EUUK on Jul 14, 2016]

Am in a painful dilemma and will soon have to decide whether to pay the deposit.

Reasons I'm hesitating:
1) 29 F, East Asian. If I should return to Asia, will a CBS MBA have any value-add to my profile? Given it's practically unknown in APAC, Is it really an irrational choice?
2) 6yr w/e in financial publishing/editorial, ~zero chance to land a job in Denmark/EU?
3) partial tuition fee reduction, but is it worth the $ afterall given above points? Altho I do look fwd to the unique scandi experience of studying and possibly working in the ctry, a primary reason why I applied.

ps. also got in a social psychology program in LSE, an area am interested in but not necessarily career oriented. Torn. Any advice + opinion?
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laurie
Yes, there are probably a lot of better choices if you wanted to move back to Asia. If you wanted to study in Europe but keep your options open in Asia, you should probably pick something that has roots there - Insead, Emlyon, etc.

I wouldn't say that you have zero chance of landing a job in the EU. The labor market there is national, though, so your best chances would be finding a job in Denmark. However, unless you speak Danish this might prove to be challenging. If you had your eyes on another European country, you should probably look at the language situation in those countries as well.
Yes, there are probably a lot of better choices if you wanted to move back to Asia. If you wanted to study in Europe but keep your options open in Asia, you should probably pick something that has roots there - Insead, Emlyon, etc.

I wouldn't say that you have zero chance of landing a job in the EU. The labor market there is national, though, so your best chances would be finding a job in Denmark. However, unless you speak Danish this might prove to be challenging. If you had your eyes on another European country, you should probably look at the language situation in those countries as well.
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EUUK
I'm a bit surprised to see Emlyon. I've notice there're other French bschools that are more popular among local applicants - ESSEC, ESCP, HEC

I wanted an European and international experience, so have stayed away from UK given I've heard the Chinese/India student body is especially big in non G5 schools.

I picked DK for the English-friendly society (vs. France, Spain, Italy, perhaps even Germany). And a potentially more favorable visa policy. My profile may not be strong enough for Insead though (non banking, IT, engineering etc...)

Are German schools such as ESMT, Frankfurt school even a better choice than CBS?
I'm a bit surprised to see Emlyon. I've notice there're other French bschools that are more popular among local applicants - ESSEC, ESCP, HEC

I wanted an European and international experience, so have stayed away from UK given I've heard the Chinese/India student body is especially big in non G5 schools.

I picked DK for the English-friendly society (vs. France, Spain, Italy, perhaps even Germany). And a potentially more favorable visa policy. My profile may not be strong enough for Insead though (non banking, IT, engineering etc...)

Are German schools such as ESMT, Frankfurt school even a better choice than CBS?
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laurie
The reason why I mentioned Emlyon is because that school has been growing its network in Asia through its Shanghai campus and other initiatives.

Indeed, Denmark is English-friendly, and there may indeed be jobs there that only require English, but the job market is much smaller than those in the UK, France, Germany, etc.

I'm a big fan of the German schools. But that's definitely a country where you'll want to speak the language at a professional level, if you wanted to land a job there.
The reason why I mentioned Emlyon is because that school has been growing its network in Asia through its Shanghai campus and other initiatives.

Indeed, Denmark is English-friendly, and there may indeed be jobs there that only require English, but the job market is much smaller than those in the UK, France, Germany, etc.

I'm a big fan of the German schools. But that's definitely a country where you'll want to speak the language at a professional level, if you wanted to land a job there.
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Duncan
I see that Copenhagen, which got back in the FT 100 this year, shows just 61% employed three months after graduating. Very sad. http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/copenhagen-business-school/global-mba-ranking-2018#global-mba-ranking-2018
I see that Copenhagen, which got back in the FT 100 this year, shows just 61% employed three months after graduating. Very sad. http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/copenhagen-business-school/global-mba-ranking-2018#global-mba-ranking-2018
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Razors Edg...
Interesting that at 57%, UConn had a lower placement rate. Although they seemingly have much better stats according to their website (91% of class of 2016 placed by October after graduation...)
Interesting that at 57%, UConn had a lower placement rate. Although they seemingly have much better stats according to their website (91% of class of 2016 placed by October after graduation...)
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Ygh109
I see that Copenhagen, which got back in the FT 100 this year, shows just 61% employed three months after graduating. Very sad. http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/copenhagen-business-school/global-mba-ranking-2018#global-mba-ranking-2018

Oh that's a bit disheartening. I don't think it's in this year's ranking. I was thinking that it might be worth investing in this program but judging from that statistic maybe not.

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[quote]I see that Copenhagen, which got back in the FT 100 this year, shows just 61% employed three months after graduating. Very sad. http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/copenhagen-business-school/global-mba-ranking-2018#global-mba-ranking-2018
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Oh that's a bit disheartening. I don't think it's in this year's ranking. I was thinking that it might be worth investing in this program but judging from that statistic maybe not.
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Duncan
I think a language course would be a better investment.
I think a language course would be a better investment.
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mba hipste...
Copenhagen recruits a small class, so there is some expectation of fluctuation, from year to year. It's hard to insulate a few grads who for whatever reason didn't land jobs within in the first three months, when the total class size is less than 50.

But in any case, I don't think it's a surprise that the school does not make its career report public.
Copenhagen recruits a small class, so there is some expectation of fluctuation, from year to year. It's hard to insulate a few grads who for whatever reason didn't land jobs within in the first three months, when the total class size is less than 50.

But in any case, I don't think it's a surprise that the school does not make its career report public.
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Chi Wang
@Duncan
By reviewing your posts I understand that even after an MBA to find a job in Germany needs fluent german ability, does it mean the school does count that much? I am asking because of even whu Mannheim may with better reputation however the tuition fees are huge money, I know ebs maybe not a good choice but if I think MBA is an investment, consider among these 3, it has the cheapest tuition fee, will it still be a good choice? Or the school has a really bad reputation that will effect when it comes to job find part? hope you can share some advice, and many thanks.
@Duncan
By reviewing your posts I understand that even after an MBA to find a job in Germany needs fluent german ability, does it mean the school does count that much? I am asking because of even whu Mannheim may with better reputation however the tuition fees are huge money, I know ebs maybe not a good choice but if I think MBA is an investment, consider among these 3, it has the cheapest tuition fee, will it still be a good choice? Or the school has a really bad reputation that will effect when it comes to job find part? hope you can share some advice, and many thanks.
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Duncan
I am sure there are some jobs without the local language but fewer as you go up professionally. Either way, the quality of the school certainly makes a difference too.
I am sure there are some jobs without the local language but fewer as you go up professionally. Either way, the quality of the school certainly makes a difference too.
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Duncan
If you goal is to work in Germany, and you do not speak German before starting your MBA, then EBS is a poor investment. Spending more on WHU would be much wiser.
If you goal is to work in Germany, and you do not speak German before starting your MBA, then EBS is a poor investment. Spending more on WHU would be much wiser.
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Duncan
It's not that EBS doesn't have an okay reputation, it's just that there are few recruiters with MBA level jobs for people without German, and they go to the highest quakity schools to hire MBAs.
It's not that EBS doesn't have an okay reputation, it's just that there are few recruiters with MBA level jobs for people without German, and they go to the highest quakity schools to hire MBAs.
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Chi Wang
It's not that EBS doesn't have an okay reputation, it's just that there are few recruiters with MBA level jobs for people without German, and they go to the highest quakity schools to hire MBAs.


make sense. if my goal is just find an okay job in germany and not in finance or either consulting area ( consider my former experiences is marketing ) , will whu still worth for investment? i know at least amazon located hq in Düsseldorf right?
[quote]It's not that EBS doesn't have an okay reputation, it's just that there are few recruiters with MBA level jobs for people without German, and they go to the highest quakity schools to hire MBAs. [/quote]

make sense. if my goal is just find an okay job in germany and not in finance or either consulting area ( consider my former experiences is marketing ) , will whu still worth for investment? i know at least amazon located hq in Düsseldorf right?
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Chi Wang
It's not that EBS doesn't have an okay reputation, it's just that there are few recruiters with MBA level jobs for people without German, and they go to the highest quakity schools to hire MBAs.


i read one of your post that said whu has fantastic career service but i am not sure about other schools in germany. i have talked to manniheim before and i dont think it would be a match for me. also, some of your posts mentioned that one year entense german study plus one year msc ( maybe master in business administration in a public university ) seems more reliable?
[quote]It's not that EBS doesn't have an okay reputation, it's just that there are few recruiters with MBA level jobs for people without German, and they go to the highest quakity schools to hire MBAs. [/quote]

i read one of your post that said whu has fantastic career service but i am not sure about other schools in germany. i have talked to manniheim before and i dont think it would be a match for me. also, some of your posts mentioned that one year entense german study plus one year msc ( maybe master in business administration in a public university ) seems more reliable?
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Duncan
This depends on your goals. WHU would lead you to an MBA-type role with a very high salary. An intensive German course followed by an inexpensive MSc in German could be cheaper, and similarly likely to get you into employment, but your salary would be much lower, and much less likely to grow. As an investment, a high-quality MBA that fits your goals will always be better.
This depends on your goals. WHU would lead you to an MBA-type role with a very high salary. An intensive German course followed by an inexpensive MSc in German could be cheaper, and similarly likely to get you into employment, but your salary would be much lower, and much less likely to grow. As an investment, a high-quality MBA that fits your goals will always be better.
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Duncan
There are some well-designed, one-year MSc degrees in mostly German (e.g https://www.fh-aachen.de/en/course-of-study/engineering-management-msc/about-the-program/) but generally you will need to research more extensively to find them. They will tend to expect related undergraduate degrees.
There are some well-designed, one-year MSc degrees in mostly German (e.g https://www.fh-aachen.de/en/course-of-study/engineering-management-msc/about-the-program/) but generally you will need to research more extensively to find them. They will tend to expect related undergraduate degrees.
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Chi Wang
This depends on your goals. WHU would lead you to an MBA-type role with a very high salary. An intensive German course followed by an inexpensive MSc in German could be cheaper, and similarly likely to get you into employment, but your salary would be much lower, and much less likely to grow. As an investment, a high-quality MBA that fits your goals will always be better.


many thanks for your advice, definitely gonna try whu now.
[quote]This depends on your goals. WHU would lead you to an MBA-type role with a very high salary. An intensive German course followed by an inexpensive MSc in German could be cheaper, and similarly likely to get you into employment, but your salary would be much lower, and much less likely to grow. As an investment, a high-quality MBA that fits your goals will always be better. [/quote]

many thanks for your advice, definitely gonna try whu now.
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Duncan
Of course the best option is intensive German course plus a top MBA.
Of course the best option is intensive German course plus a top MBA.
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