Master and Job opportunities in Shanghai/Hongkong/Singapore


tanya

i'm from Thailand and wish to continue master in these 3 countries next year. I'm working in investment banking firm in Thailand, around 2.5 years exp when class begins, and would like to keep on focusing in financial sector and spend couple of years working abroad. I've got good GPA and GMAT of 650 and also know Mandarin Chinese (about HSK 3-4). so I have several questions to ask here. 1. which location the working opportunity in finance is more wild open for expat? 2. Do they require stong Chinese skill? 3. Is my Chinese skill is enough to work there? 4. Any suggestion on the courses that i'm eligible (preferably 1-1.5 yrs)? and 5. Any strong finance courses in China? Thanks

i'm from Thailand and wish to continue master in these 3 countries next year. I'm working in investment banking firm in Thailand, around 2.5 years exp when class begins, and would like to keep on focusing in financial sector and spend couple of years working abroad. I've got good GPA and GMAT of 650 and also know Mandarin Chinese (about HSK 3-4). so I have several questions to ask here. 1. which location the working opportunity in finance is more wild open for expat? 2. Do they require stong Chinese skill? 3. Is my Chinese skill is enough to work there? 4. Any suggestion on the courses that i'm eligible (preferably 1-1.5 yrs)? and 5. Any strong finance courses in China? Thanks
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i'm from Thailand and wish to continue master in these 3 countries next year. I'm working in investment banking firm in Thailand, around 2.5 years exp when class begins, and would like to keep on focusing in financial sector and spend couple of years working abroad. I've got good GPA and GMAT of 650 and also know Mandarin Chinese (about HSK 3-4). so I have several questions to ask here. 1. which location the working opportunity in finance is more wild open for expat? 2. Do they require stong Chinese skill? 3. Is my Chinese skill is enough to work there? 4. Any suggestion on the courses that i'm eligible (preferably 1-1.5 yrs)? and 5. Any strong finance courses in China? Thanks


Hi there,

Here are your questions
1) Shanghai and Hk are the main financial centers. HK mainly at the moment, but the trend is that the centre will move up north.

2) Strong Chinese skills are more relevant in China. In HK, you can still survive by just speaking English--but this is for the financial district.

3) Yes, and with English. But local experience also an asset.

4) If you want to stay in Asia, the best course to consider for you is HKUST (got great partnership with Kellogg, ranked high in FT). But if you're looking into the US, then I think you've got great stats for top 10-20. Look into Columbia, Chicago, MIT and NYU

5) I don't tknow about strong finance courses in China, but the main ones with the strongest brands are Tsinghua and Pekin U.

Hope this helps!

<blockquote>i'm from Thailand and wish to continue master in these 3 countries next year. I'm working in investment banking firm in Thailand, around 2.5 years exp when class begins, and would like to keep on focusing in financial sector and spend couple of years working abroad. I've got good GPA and GMAT of 650 and also know Mandarin Chinese (about HSK 3-4). so I have several questions to ask here. 1. which location the working opportunity in finance is more wild open for expat? 2. Do they require stong Chinese skill? 3. Is my Chinese skill is enough to work there? 4. Any suggestion on the courses that i'm eligible (preferably 1-1.5 yrs)? and 5. Any strong finance courses in China? Thanks</blockquote>

Hi there,

Here are your questions
1) Shanghai and Hk are the main financial centers. HK mainly at the moment, but the trend is that the centre will move up north.

2) Strong Chinese skills are more relevant in China. In HK, you can still survive by just speaking English--but this is for the financial district.

3) Yes, and with English. But local experience also an asset.

4) If you want to stay in Asia, the best course to consider for you is HKUST (got great partnership with Kellogg, ranked high in FT). But if you're looking into the US, then I think you've got great stats for top 10-20. Look into Columbia, Chicago, MIT and NYU

5) I don't tknow about strong finance courses in China, but the main ones with the strongest brands are Tsinghua and Pekin U.

Hope this helps!
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tanya

Thank you for your time, I really appreciate your post, it's very helpful for me! and after reading several posts in this site i think i will apply for both Hong Kong or Singapore.

Ps. Columbia, Chicago, MIT is of the dream for me, potentially and financially T-T

Thank you for your time, I really appreciate your post, it's very helpful for me! and after reading several posts in this site i think i will apply for both Hong Kong or Singapore.

Ps. Columbia, Chicago, MIT is of the dream for me, potentially and financially T-T
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my name is suraj i'm from india i wish to get a good job in singapore... am doing my first year graduation in MBA not yet chosen a stream where i can express my talent.its my ambition to work in singapore

my name is suraj i'm from india i wish to get a good job in singapore... am doing my first year graduation in MBA not yet chosen a stream where i can express my talent.its my ambition to work in singapore
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Rhino

Hi suraj,
I think for Indians, it is easier to find a job in singapore compared to H.K./Shanghai.
If you notice, the Singaporean Gov't quite friendly toward minorities (ie. Malays, Indians, Philipinos).

However, nowadays companies prefer to hire singapore PR / citizens.
So finding jobs with EP (employment pass) is a bit tricky in singapore.

Right now, the job trend in singapore is still Wealth Mgmt, Private banking,
I-banking operation, health care sector. Logistic has not picking up yet.
The other sectors are so-so.

Hi suraj,
I think for Indians, it is easier to find a job in singapore compared to H.K./Shanghai.
If you notice, the Singaporean Gov't quite friendly toward minorities (ie. Malays, Indians, Philipinos).

However, nowadays companies prefer to hire singapore PR / citizens.
So finding jobs with EP (employment pass) is a bit tricky in singapore.

Right now, the job trend in singapore is still Wealth Mgmt, Private banking,
I-banking operation, health care sector. Logistic has not picking up yet.
The other sectors are so-so.
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abishek.m

Dream for many, achieved by very few.

For a Thai person it only works if u go back to Thailand, the same goes for Malay, Indonesian etc... It works well, you can get a decent job back home, but forget about working in Hongkong/Singapore, not to mention Shanghai.

Those jobs are for Chinese born top local school graduates, and Chinese born abroad graduating from world top 5 schools.

Dream for many, achieved by very few.

For a Thai person it only works if u go back to Thailand, the same goes for Malay, Indonesian etc... It works well, you can get a decent job back home, but forget about working in Hongkong/Singapore, not to mention Shanghai.

Those jobs are for Chinese born top local school graduates, and Chinese born abroad graduating from world top 5 schools.
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Rhino

I would disagree with above comment.
As long one work hard enough, one can get a good job overseas.
Especially if you want to work in shanghai, as long you can speak chinese, you can get a good job.
As an Indonesian myself, it is true that getting high-paying job is difficult, but some of them managed to push it thru to the senior management level.

Nothing is impossible, even if you only have degree from 2nd or 3rd tier schools. Work hard, pray a lot, then many doors will open themselves for you.

I would disagree with above comment.
As long one work hard enough, one can get a good job overseas.
Especially if you want to work in shanghai, as long you can speak chinese, you can get a good job.
As an Indonesian myself, it is true that getting high-paying job is difficult, but some of them managed to push it thru to the senior management level.

Nothing is impossible, even if you only have degree from 2nd or 3rd tier schools. Work hard, pray a lot, then many doors will open themselves for you.
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If you want to work in Shanghai then perhaps consider doing your masters at SAIF. Their mantra is to be the top finance university in China. I feel it will give you a great opportunity to network with people but students and people in the finance field. For starters, SAIF organizes Finance conferences inviting notable speakers and companies that you would be interested in meeting. Just look at their events page. Notable guests from this year include traders from top New York firms who taught students stock trading strategies; investment guru Larry Williams sharing his experience of growing $100,000 to $1.1 million in one year; and ex-Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board, Paul Volcker speaking on the global economic reform. I've heard from students who went there that their career services is very strong. I know a number who have landed roles in places like JP Morgan, UBS, HSBC, and many more. What I would advise is that you try to get in contact with their admissions, explain your situation and ask them to connect you with one or two students for you to speak with.

If you want to work in Shanghai then perhaps consider doing your masters at SAIF. Their mantra is to be the top finance university in China. I feel it will give you a great opportunity to network with people but students and people in the finance field. For starters, SAIF organizes Finance conferences inviting notable speakers and companies that you would be interested in meeting. Just look at their events page. Notable guests from this year include traders from top New York firms who taught students stock trading strategies; investment guru Larry Williams sharing his experience of growing $100,000 to $1.1 million in one year; and ex-Chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board, Paul Volcker speaking on the global economic reform. I've heard from students who went there that their career services is very strong. I know a number who have landed roles in places like JP Morgan, UBS, HSBC, and many more. What I would advise is that you try to get in contact with their admissions, explain your situation and ask them to connect you with one or two students for you to speak with.
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ralph

If you want to work in Shanghai then perhaps consider doing your masters at SAIF. Their mantra is to be the top finance university in China.

I've said this before about SAIF - I think that this program is still too new, and Antai would be a superior choice in terms of the Shanghai Jiao Tong colleges. Maybe give it a few years and at least one international accreditation so that its credibility really sinks in with employers.

As it is, the lion's share of MBAs who go into financial services in Shanghai are either Nanyang or NUS alumni, sprinkled with some from INSEAD. Those are probably the better choices for finance.

<blockquote>If you want to work in Shanghai then perhaps consider doing your masters at SAIF. Their mantra is to be the top finance university in China.</blockquote>
I've said this before about SAIF - I think that this program is still too new, and Antai would be a superior choice in terms of the Shanghai Jiao Tong colleges. Maybe give it a few years and at least one international accreditation so that its credibility really sinks in with employers.

As it is, the lion's share of MBAs who go into financial services in Shanghai are either Nanyang or NUS alumni, sprinkled with some from INSEAD. Those are probably the better choices for finance.
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Why don't you check out the UBC IMBA program in Shanghai. Its part-time which allow you to continue to work. Although IMBA is not specialized in Finance, UBC Sauder School of Business is very strong in Finance. IMBA class is located in SJTU Antai College with 2 week of class in Vancouver.

Why don't you check out the UBC IMBA program in Shanghai. Its part-time which allow you to continue to work. Although IMBA is not specialized in Finance, UBC Sauder School of Business is very strong in Finance. IMBA class is located in SJTU Antai College with 2 week of class in Vancouver.
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donho199

If you want to work in Shanghai then perhaps consider doing your masters at SAIF. Their mantra is to be the top finance university in China.

I've said this before about SAIF - I think that this program is still too new, and Antai would be a superior choice in terms of the Shanghai Jiao Tong colleges. Maybe give it a few years and at least one international accreditation so that its credibility really sinks in with employers.

As it is, the lion's share of MBAs who go into financial services in Shanghai are either Nanyang or NUS alumni, sprinkled with some from INSEAD. Those are probably the better choices for finance.


Did not know that NUS and Nanyang is that prestigious. Even in Singapore, i would think the lion share of investment banking and mangement are those who have top US/UK degrees.

Of course a large share of those graduated from NUS/NTU themselves with the bachelor degree.

<blockquote><blockquote>If you want to work in Shanghai then perhaps consider doing your masters at SAIF. Their mantra is to be the top finance university in China.</blockquote>
I've said this before about SAIF - I think that this program is still too new, and Antai would be a superior choice in terms of the Shanghai Jiao Tong colleges. Maybe give it a few years and at least one international accreditation so that its credibility really sinks in with employers.

As it is, the lion's share of MBAs who go into financial services in Shanghai are either Nanyang or NUS alumni, sprinkled with some from INSEAD. Those are probably the better choices for finance.</blockquote>

Did not know that NUS and Nanyang is that prestigious. Even in Singapore, i would think the lion share of investment banking and mangement are those who have top US/UK degrees.

Of course a large share of those graduated from NUS/NTU themselves with the bachelor degree.
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Duncan

In Singapore, the schools with the most IB/IM MBA alumni are NUS. Insead and Nanyang. Booth is high up because of its EMBA there. Actually the top Indian schools have more of a base there than the UK schools, although LBS is certainly in the top ten.

In Singapore, the schools with the most IB/IM MBA alumni are NUS. Insead and Nanyang. Booth is high up because of its EMBA there. Actually the top Indian schools have more of a base there than the UK schools, although LBS is certainly in the top ten.
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Inactive User

Why don't you check out the UBC IMBA program in Shanghai. Its part-time which allow you to continue to work. Although IMBA is not specialized in Finance, UBC Sauder School of Business is very strong in Finance. IMBA class is located in SJTU Antai College with 2 week of class in Vancouver.

Why not just do the Antai MBA program? It's pretty well-regarded, and I think you'd be better off with something local if you are trying to land a job in Shanghai.

<blockquote>Why don't you check out the UBC IMBA program in Shanghai. Its part-time which allow you to continue to work. Although IMBA is not specialized in Finance, UBC Sauder School of Business is very strong in Finance. IMBA class is located in SJTU Antai College with 2 week of class in Vancouver. </blockquote>
Why not just do the Antai MBA program? It's pretty well-regarded, and I think you'd be better off with something local if you are trying to land a job in Shanghai.
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That's not bad too. All depends on your own requirement and preference. However, I assume none Chinese would prefer something more international reconized.

That's not bad too. All depends on your own requirement and preference. However, I assume none Chinese would prefer something more international reconized.
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