i learned a lot from reading comments on INSEAD vs Hong Kong UST, http://www.find-mba.com/board/4345

i am coming out of a 3 yr analyst program from one of the top asset management groups in London.
Would like to add a good Asian MBA to my CV for the future, as I aspire to manage my own Fund one day.

hoping someone can comment on top Chinese schools..What makes CEIBS rank so high? is it the "China hype" ? I understand CEIBS is not known as Finance school, and at this point I favor Hong Kong UST.

i learned a lot from reading comments on INSEAD vs Hong Kong UST, http://www.find-mba.com/board/4345

i am coming out of a 3 yr analyst program from one of the top asset management groups in London.
Would like to add a good Asian MBA to my CV for the future, as I aspire to manage my own Fund one day.

hoping someone can comment on top Chinese schools..What makes CEIBS rank so high? is it the "China hype" ? I understand CEIBS is not known as Finance school, and at this point I favor Hong Kong UST.

i learned a lot from reading comments on INSEAD vs Hong Kong UST, http://www.find-mba.com/board/4345

i am coming out of a 3 yr analyst program from one of the top asset management groups in London.
Would like to add a good Asian MBA to my CV for the future, as I aspire to manage my own Fund one day.

hoping someone can comment on top Chinese schools..What makes CEIBS rank so high? is it the "China hype" ? I understand CEIBS is not known as Finance school, and at this point I favor Hong Kong UST.

i learned a lot from reading comments on INSEAD vs Hong Kong UST, http://www.find-mba.com/board/4345

i am coming out of a 3 yr analyst program from one of the top asset management groups in London.
Would like to add a good Asian MBA to my CV for the future, as I aspire to manage my own Fund one day.

hoping someone can comment on top Chinese schools..What makes CEIBS rank so high? is it the "China hype" ? I understand CEIBS is not known as Finance school, and at this point I favor Hong Kong UST.

i learned a lot from reading comments on INSEAD vs Hong Kong UST, http://www.find-mba.com/board/4345

i am coming out of a 3 yr analyst program from one of the top asset management groups in London.
Would like to add a good Asian MBA to my CV for the future, as I aspire to manage my own Fund one day.

hoping someone can comment on top Chinese schools..What makes CEIBS rank so high? is it the "China hype" ? I understand CEIBS is not known as Finance school, and at this point I favor Hong Kong UST.

for Asian Finance - Hong Kong UST - do not waste your time applying elsewhere. They consistently have the best placements in Finance and have developed very good relationships with Hong Kong's financial community.

I will be applying to Hong Kong UST and pursuing MBA with concentrationa in China Business, anybody else?

Hey

I am going to CEIBS this Sep 07. I have worked in the Asset Mgt Industry for the last 8 years. I think the networks this schools has are probably better than those at HK U and maybe more global too. The banking sector is only just opening in China and over the next 2-3 years there will be more presence from US banks. I dont think by having a weaker or non specialised finance faculty will make that much of a difference, since you can always add (or if you haven't got it already), the CFA qualification. I think adding an MBA from a top 20 global school will perhaps give you more opportunities to work within the finance industry either in HK or the West. Let me know your thoughts or email me and we can talk over the phone to exchange ideas.

Thanks

Hey

I am going to CEIBS this Sep 07. I have worked in the Asset Mgt Industry for the last 8 years. I think the networks this schools has are probably better than those at HK U and maybe more global too. The banking sector is only just opening in China and over the next 2-3 years there will be more presence from US banks. I dont think by having a weaker or non specialised finance faculty will make that much of a difference, since you can always add (or if you haven't got it already), the CFA qualification. I think adding an MBA from a top 20 global school will perhaps give you more opportunities to work within the finance industry either in HK or the West. Let me know your thoughts or email me and we can talk over the phone to exchange ideas.

Thanks

Look at case competitions around the world. HONG KONG UST's students beat CEIBS' all the time.

Hi guys,
how is CEIBS' reputation in HK, and HKUST's reputation in China? might sound like a stupid ? but is there a cut throat competition between these two schools? Can someone with CEIBS' degree count on placements in HK? Is it possible at all for someone with English only to work in mainland CHina?? I have been told that it might be possible in HK but not in Shanghai or Beijing.. Is the CHinese course at CEIBS intensive enough for me to learn the business basics in 12 months??

Hi guys,
how is CEIBS' reputation in HK, and HKUST's reputation in China? might sound like a stupid ? but is there a cut throat competition between these two schools? Can someone with CEIBS' degree count on placements in HK? Is it possible at all for someone with English only to work in mainland CHina?? I have been told that it might be possible in HK but not in Shanghai or Beijing.. Is the CHinese course at CEIBS intensive enough for me to learn the business basics in 12 months??

when you take away the fact that CEIBS' salary figures are adjusted for PPI, the school would be ranked outside of 50 in both FT and Economist. HK UST is way ahead if thats taken under consideration, as it should be.

ceibs does not live up to its' rankings that is for sure.

http://www.b-school-net.de/AsiaInc2001.htm

perfect example on how CEIBS' can not compete with other Asian schools when inflated salary numbers post graduation are taken out of the equation.

ceibs does not live up to its' rankings that is for sure.

Chinese business school wins top-10 FT ranking

THE China-Europe International Business School has become the first business school in Asia to make the Financial Times' top-10 MBA programs since the newspaper started ranking programs a decade ago.

The Shanghai-based school came eighth in the top-100 list of full-time global Master of Business Administration programs, up from 11th place last year.

CEIBS graduates' salaries increase by an average of 179 percent in three years after graduation, the highest pay rise among the schools listed, according an FT survey....

... Three Asian schools, two in China and one in India, feature in the top 20 of the FT rankings this year.

Hong Kong UST Business School is ranked 16th, up from 17th last year.

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2009/200902/20090203/article_389693.htm

visited CEIBS last month....

I dont know how people say that CEIBS graduates make more than 100,000 usd. not true, and if you talk to CEIBS people they are honest about it, the salaries are about 40,000 usd. Also the big salary increase post graduation is because many people coming in earned very low salaries i china and now still earn not much but pecentage wise it looks good.

If you are not chinese or do not speak chinese this is not the school for you. If you do decide to visit, you will know right away this is certainly not a top 10 school.

Livorno,
you really got a good point many people do not see when considering CEIBS. There are some other aspects I would like to share after I had recently attended one of the information sessions on the Shanghai campus:
CEIBS is highly ranked and sees itself as a global b-school, and if you look at the international students you will find percentages of 30+ (FT 2009: 37%). Well, this is true BUT if you look at the numbers a bit more closely you will notice that almost all of the international students are exchange students. There is only a very small number of foreign students who do their entire program at CEIBS.
So those people who value cultural diversity as a crucial criterion will probably not be happy.
2 more remarks:
--I had a look at the bookstore and noticed that roughly 70% of the books are translations into Chinese.
--Many announcements or posters on the campus are in Chinese exclusively.
This once again confirms what was mentioned in previous posts. Even though all classes are conducted in English, lacking solid Mandarin skills will be a significant disadvantage.
Nevertheless, in terms of faculty, campus and doing business in China CEIBS is, in my opinion, the top address.... but not if your Mandarin is poor or if you wanna ensure cultural diversity.

Livorno,
you really got a good point many people do not see when considering CEIBS. There are some other aspects I would like to share after I had recently attended one of the information sessions on the Shanghai campus:
CEIBS is highly ranked and sees itself as a global b-school, and if you look at the international students you will find percentages of 30+ (FT 2009: 37%). Well, this is true BUT if you look at the numbers a bit more closely you will notice that almost all of the international students are exchange students. There is only a very small number of foreign students who do their entire program at CEIBS.
So those people who value cultural diversity as a crucial criterion will probably not be happy.
2 more remarks:
--I had a look at the bookstore and noticed that roughly 70% of the books are translations into Chinese.
--Many announcements or posters on the campus are in Chinese exclusively.
This once again confirms what was mentioned in previous posts. Even though all classes are conducted in English, lacking solid Mandarin skills will be a significant disadvantage.
Nevertheless, in terms of faculty, campus and doing business in China CEIBS is, in my opinion, the top address.... but not if your Mandarin is poor or if you wanna ensure cultural diversity.