HKUST placement prospect


IBFAN
Hi guys:

I would sincerely appreciate any informed advice.

I intend to apply for HKUST's MBA program. My backgound is as follows:

Currently working in Australia, originally from China.

Bachelor: GPA 3.7 major: international business (second-tier university in China);
Master: GPA 3.7 major: finance (top-tier university in Australia);
GMAT: will take in October, expect at least 720;
CFA level 3 candidate;
Work experience: five years as university lecturer, with some supervisory duties, one year in Education consultancy.

Could anybody please evaluate my backgound for the chance of being accepted? How likely can I get into HKUST's MBA?

My main concern is that I don't have any experience in Finance before MBA, so if I specialize in Finance at HKUST, do I have a good chance of finding a job in Finance (e,g IB or mutual fund)? How is the placement record of MBAs from HKUST, particularly in the Finance sector?

The other problem is, if I get accepted, I will be 34 years old when finishing the MBA program. At such an age without any pre-MBA experience in Finance, can I successfully make a career change? Is it really difficult?

I wish to work in Asian region, ideally HK, and eventually relocate to Mainland China.

Can anyone who knows more about the program and HK's finance job market give me some suggestions?

Many thanks!
Hi guys:

I would sincerely appreciate any informed advice.

I intend to apply for HKUST's MBA program. My backgound is as follows:

Currently working in Australia, originally from China.

Bachelor: GPA 3.7 major: international business (second-tier university in China);
Master: GPA 3.7 major: finance (top-tier university in Australia);
GMAT: will take in October, expect at least 720;
CFA level 3 candidate;
Work experience: five years as university lecturer, with some supervisory duties, one year in Education consultancy.

Could anybody please evaluate my backgound for the chance of being accepted? How likely can I get into HKUST's MBA?

My main concern is that I don't have any experience in Finance before MBA, so if I specialize in Finance at HKUST, do I have a good chance of finding a job in Finance (e,g IB or mutual fund)? How is the placement record of MBAs from HKUST, particularly in the Finance sector?

The other problem is, if I get accepted, I will be 34 years old when finishing the MBA program. At such an age without any pre-MBA experience in Finance, can I successfully make a career change? Is it really difficult?

I wish to work in Asian region, ideally HK, and eventually relocate to Mainland China.

Can anyone who knows more about the program and HK's finance job market give me some suggestions?

Many thanks!
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AnalystNYC
Hi guys:

I would sincerely appreciate any informed advice.

I intend to apply for HKUST's MBA program. My backgound is as follows:

Currently working in Australia, originally from China.

Bachelor: GPA 3.7 major: international business (second-tier university in China);
Master: GPA 3.7 major: finance (top-tier university in Australia);
GMAT: will take in October, expect at least 720;
CFA level 3 candidate;
Work experience: five years as university lecturer, with some supervisory duties, one year in Education consultancy.

Could anybody please evaluate my backgound for the chance of being accepted? How likely can I get into HKUST's MBA?

My main concern is that I don't have any experience in Finance before MBA, so if I specialize in Finance at HKUST, do I have a good chance of finding a job in Finance (e,g IB or mutual fund)? How is the placement record of MBAs from HKUST, particularly in the Finance sector?

The other problem is, if I get accepted, I will be 34 years old when finishing the MBA program. At such an age without any pre-MBA experience in Finance, can I successfully make a career change? Is it really difficult?

I wish to work in Asian region, ideally HK, and eventually relocate to Mainland China.

Can anyone who knows more about the program and HK's finance job market give me some suggestions?

Many thanks!



level 3 cfa candidate scoring 700+, I would say your chances for acceptance are very good.
<blockquote>Hi guys:

I would sincerely appreciate any informed advice.

I intend to apply for HKUST's MBA program. My backgound is as follows:

Currently working in Australia, originally from China.

Bachelor: GPA 3.7 major: international business (second-tier university in China);
Master: GPA 3.7 major: finance (top-tier university in Australia);
GMAT: will take in October, expect at least 720;
CFA level 3 candidate;
Work experience: five years as university lecturer, with some supervisory duties, one year in Education consultancy.

Could anybody please evaluate my backgound for the chance of being accepted? How likely can I get into HKUST's MBA?

My main concern is that I don't have any experience in Finance before MBA, so if I specialize in Finance at HKUST, do I have a good chance of finding a job in Finance (e,g IB or mutual fund)? How is the placement record of MBAs from HKUST, particularly in the Finance sector?

The other problem is, if I get accepted, I will be 34 years old when finishing the MBA program. At such an age without any pre-MBA experience in Finance, can I successfully make a career change? Is it really difficult?

I wish to work in Asian region, ideally HK, and eventually relocate to Mainland China.

Can anyone who knows more about the program and HK's finance job market give me some suggestions?

Many thanks!</blockquote>


level 3 cfa candidate scoring 700+, I would say your chances for acceptance are very good.
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F1Sing
Also interested in placement statistics at HK UST, anyone?
Also interested in placement statistics at HK UST, anyone?
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copernicus
Also interested in placement statistics at HK UST, anyone?


in terms of quality of Finance recruiting nothing beats hk ust in Asia.

link to placements,

http://mba.ust.hk/ftmba/files/employ_stat.pdf
<blockquote>Also interested in placement statistics at HK UST, anyone?
</blockquote>

in terms of quality of Finance recruiting nothing beats hk ust in Asia.

link to placements,

http://mba.ust.hk/ftmba/files/employ_stat.pdf
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IBFAN
Thanks for sharing information guys.

But I am still unsure if I can make a career change at the age of 34, considering the fact that my experience before MBA is purely academic.

Also, I hear that Investment banks tend to hire people under 30, is it true? If I can not make IB, do I have other opportunities, say in Mutual funds or asset management?

Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing information guys.

But I am still unsure if I can make a career change at the age of 34, considering the fact that my experience before MBA is purely academic.

Also, I hear that Investment banks tend to hire people under 30, is it true? If I can not make IB, do I have other opportunities, say in Mutual funds or asset management?

Thanks again!
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copernicus
Thanks for sharing information guys.

But I am still unsure if I can make a career change at the age of 34, considering the fact that my experience before MBA is purely academic.

Also, I hear that Investment banks tend to hire people under 30, is it true? If I can not make IB, do I have other opportunities, say in Mutual funds or asset management?

Thanks again!


there are various positions at I-Banks, and actually the fastest growing area in Asia is the PWM private weath management divisions. You would fit in well, as you have worked with people from different backgrounds in your academic career. Asset Management firms don not really care how old their analysts are, you will definitely have a chance there. One area where you might be too old for is trading.
<blockquote>Thanks for sharing information guys.

But I am still unsure if I can make a career change at the age of 34, considering the fact that my experience before MBA is purely academic.

Also, I hear that Investment banks tend to hire people under 30, is it true? If I can not make IB, do I have other opportunities, say in Mutual funds or asset management?

Thanks again!</blockquote>

there are various positions at I-Banks, and actually the fastest growing area in Asia is the PWM private weath management divisions. You would fit in well, as you have worked with people from different backgrounds in your academic career. Asset Management firms don not really care how old their analysts are, you will definitely have a chance there. One area where you might be too old for is trading.

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kit
The average salaries for HKUST MBA grads seem somewhat underwhelming. The highest, around $72k in 2006 for grads employed overseas, is ok but not stellar. I imagine a good number of pre-MBA types are already making that. Granted, that figure applies to those who actually responded to the survey, so it could be higher (or lower for that matter).

One other point is that, according to latest U.S. News/World Report ranking, starting salaries from at least the top 25 or so MBA programs in the U.S. are higher. Salary isn't everything, of course, and the quality of education and experience overseas are valuable in other ways, but it's something to consider.
The average salaries for HKUST MBA grads seem somewhat underwhelming. The highest, around $72k in 2006 for grads employed overseas, is ok but not stellar. I imagine a good number of pre-MBA types are already making that. Granted, that figure applies to those who actually responded to the survey, so it could be higher (or lower for that matter).

One other point is that, according to latest U.S. News/World Report ranking, starting salaries from at least the top 25 or so MBA programs in the U.S. are higher. Salary isn't everything, of course, and the quality of education and experience overseas are valuable in other ways, but it's something to consider.
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copernicus
The average salaries for HKUST MBA grads seem somewhat underwhelming. The highest, around $72k in 2006 for grads employed overseas, is ok but not stellar. I imagine a good number of pre-MBA types are already making that.


This is key part of the placement report.

"More than two-thirds (69%) of the survey respondents secured jobs in Hong Kong, 17% in Mainland China and the balance (14%) in other parts of Asia and Europe."

So that last 14% for HK UST "overseas" means mostly Singapore, India, Thailand, Japan, etc. When you take $72k usd in those countries that is extremely good!

Very few graduates leave Asia for Europe or US after graduation. They tend to stay for few years to capitalize on Asia.

Thus you can not compare US/Europe placements with those in Asia.
<blockquote>The average salaries for HKUST MBA grads seem somewhat underwhelming. The highest, around $72k in 2006 for grads employed overseas, is ok but not stellar. I imagine a good number of pre-MBA types are already making that. </blockquote>

This is key part of the placement report.

"More than two-thirds (69%) of the survey respondents secured jobs in Hong Kong, 17% in Mainland China and the balance (14%) in other parts of Asia and Europe."

So that last 14% for HK UST "overseas" means mostly Singapore, India, Thailand, Japan, etc. When you take $72k usd in those countries that is extremely good!

Very few graduates leave Asia for Europe or US after graduation. They tend to stay for few years to capitalize on Asia.

Thus you can not compare US/Europe placements with those in Asia.
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I see a lot of distorted information on this board. HKUST is a good school, but it is not comparable to a global program.

Even if you want to work in HK post-MBA, you should still go to the top global programs. (Without a doubt, INSEAD is one of them.)
I see a lot of distorted information on this board. HKUST is a good school, but it is not comparable to a global program.

Even if you want to work in HK post-MBA, you should still go to the top global programs. (Without a doubt, INSEAD is one of them.)

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I see a lot of distorted information on this board. HKUST is a good school, but it is not comparable to a global program.

Even if you want to work in HK post-MBA, you should still go to the top global programs. (Without a doubt, INSEAD is one of them.)



for a global program you go to top 10 US not INSEAD.

Where do people get the idea of INSEAD being a top global program???Ask around in the US, nobody except their alumni, ever heard of that school.

for Asian MBA you should choose between HK UST (Finance) or CEIBS (general management) depending on your interests.
<blockquote>I see a lot of distorted information on this board. HKUST is a good school, but it is not comparable to a global program.

Even if you want to work in HK post-MBA, you should still go to the top global programs. (Without a doubt, INSEAD is one of them.)

</blockquote>

for a global program you go to top 10 US not INSEAD.

Where do people get the idea of INSEAD being a top global program???Ask around in the US, nobody except their alumni, ever heard of that school.

for Asian MBA you should choose between HK UST (Finance) or CEIBS (general management) depending on your interests.
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Obviously, you don't know how MBA recruitment works.

Check the investment banks and consulting firms and ask them where they recruit from.

INSEAD & LBS will get you further in Asia than most US schools. Also, check the salary numbers.

Let's not take a US-centric view of things now....
Obviously, you don't know how MBA recruitment works.

Check the investment banks and consulting firms and ask them where they recruit from.

INSEAD & LBS will get you further in Asia than most US schools. Also, check the salary numbers.

Let's not take a US-centric view of things now....
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Obviously, you don't know how MBA recruitment works.

Check the investment banks and consulting firms and ask them where they recruit from.

INSEAD & LBS will get you further in Asia than most US schools. Also, check the salary numbers.

Let's not take a US-centric view of things now....


the only thing thats obvious is that you have never been to Asia and have no idea what you are talking about.
<blockquote>Obviously, you don't know how MBA recruitment works.

Check the investment banks and consulting firms and ask them where they recruit from.

INSEAD & LBS will get you further in Asia than most US schools. Also, check the salary numbers.

Let's not take a US-centric view of things now....
</blockquote>

the only thing thats obvious is that you have never been to Asia and have no idea what you are talking about.

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madhu

Even if you want to work in HK post-MBA, you should still go to the top global programs. (Without a doubt, INSEAD is one of them.)


you must be insead alumni? certainly not top global school.
here is on Insead,read on..

http://www.bankersball.com/2006/11/21/insead-the-forgotten-b-school/#more-354
<blockquote>
Even if you want to work in HK post-MBA, you should still go to the top global programs. (Without a doubt, INSEAD is one of them.)
</blockquote>

you must be insead alumni? certainly not top global school.
here is on Insead,read on..

http://www.bankersball.com/2006/11/21/insead-the-forgotten-b-school/#more-354
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So you are basing your understanding of a school on 1 article and ignoring the objective evidence that is available out there?

Allow me to enlighten:

Check out Carlyle's team in Asia and look especially closely at the Associates. Which b school grads is the firm hiring from? http://www.carlyle.com/eng/team/l4-team849.html

Obtain an INSEAD career report and figure out how many grads are going into consulting and investment banking, which are the two industries that are springboards into buy-side careers.

Understand that most banks and consulting firms do global recruiting so it doesn't matter whether you are an MBA student in New York, London or Singapore. You have an equal opportunity to compete so long as the firm recruits at your school.

I am not saying that INSEAD is a household name in Asia. My point is that if you are looking for career advancement opportunities in Asia, it is still important to attend a top global MBA program.

Lastly, allow me to establish my credibility here. I graduated from Stanford and have been living in Asia since 1996. I am fairly familiar with the recruitment process for the financial services (investment banking, private equity & other front office functions) and consulting industries in Asia.
So you are basing your understanding of a school on 1 article and ignoring the objective evidence that is available out there?

Allow me to enlighten:

Check out Carlyle's team in Asia and look especially closely at the Associates. Which b school grads is the firm hiring from? http://www.carlyle.com/eng/team/l4-team849.html

Obtain an INSEAD career report and figure out how many grads are going into consulting and investment banking, which are the two industries that are springboards into buy-side careers.

Understand that most banks and consulting firms do global recruiting so it doesn't matter whether you are an MBA student in New York, London or Singapore. You have an equal opportunity to compete so long as the firm recruits at your school.

I am not saying that INSEAD is a household name in Asia. My point is that if you are looking for career advancement opportunities in Asia, it is still important to attend a top global MBA program.

Lastly, allow me to establish my credibility here. I graduated from Stanford and have been living in Asia since 1996. I am fairly familiar with the recruitment process for the financial services (investment banking, private equity & other front office functions) and consulting industries in Asia.



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Lastly, allow me to establish my credibility here. I graduated from Stanford and have been living in Asia since 1996. I am fairly familiar with the recruitment process for the financial services (investment banking, private equity & other front office functions) and consulting industries in Asia.



ha, ha, yeah right...
allow me to quote you..

"INSEAD & LBS will get you further in Asia than most US schools. Also, check the salary numbers.
Let's not take a US-centric view of things now...."

yes that surely would be coming out of a Stanford alumni....
next time try to cover your tracks so it makes sense..
<blockquote>
Lastly, allow me to establish my credibility here. I graduated from Stanford and have been living in Asia since 1996. I am fairly familiar with the recruitment process for the financial services (investment banking, private equity & other front office functions) and consulting industries in Asia.

</blockquote>

ha, ha, yeah right...
allow me to quote you..

"INSEAD & LBS will get you further in Asia than most US schools. Also, check the salary numbers.
Let's not take a US-centric view of things now...."

yes that surely would be coming out of a Stanford alumni....
next time try to cover your tracks so it makes sense..

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I am just telling you the truth.

I can tell you that while Stanford has great name recognition in Asia, reality is that its alumni network is actually pretty weak in the region, especially if you're in the non-tech arena.

Believe what you want to believe. I am just offering an alternative view on things.

If you want to impress people at a cocktail party, Harvard and Stanford will do the trick no doubt. But, I don't think that's what life (or school) is about.
I am just telling you the truth.

I can tell you that while Stanford has great name recognition in Asia, reality is that its alumni network is actually pretty weak in the region, especially if you're in the non-tech arena.

Believe what you want to believe. I am just offering an alternative view on things.

If you want to impress people at a cocktail party, Harvard and Stanford will do the trick no doubt. But, I don't think that's what life (or school) is about.
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I am just telling you the truth.

I can tell you that while Stanford has great name recognition in Asia, reality is that its alumni network is actually pretty weak in the region, especially if you're in the non-tech arena.

Believe what you want to believe. I am just offering an alternative view on things.

If you want to impress people at a cocktail party, Harvard and Stanford will do the trick no doubt. But, I don't think that's what life (or school) is about.


First off all, my hat is off to anyone after Stanford, whether or not you went there thats another story.

Your last paragraph again contradicts your supposed "Stanford" education. However if you truly believe what you said, you would never take INSEAD-Singapore over HK UST, never!
<blockquote>I am just telling you the truth.

I can tell you that while Stanford has great name recognition in Asia, reality is that its alumni network is actually pretty weak in the region, especially if you're in the non-tech arena.

Believe what you want to believe. I am just offering an alternative view on things.

If you want to impress people at a cocktail party, Harvard and Stanford will do the trick no doubt. But, I don't think that's what life (or school) is about. </blockquote>

First off all, my hat is off to anyone after Stanford, whether or not you went there thats another story.

Your last paragraph again contradicts your supposed "Stanford" education. However if you truly believe what you said, you would never take INSEAD-Singapore over HK UST, never!



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copernicus
Placement statistics

http://www.mbacareer.ust.hk/students/employment_highlights2007.htm

32% experienced salary increase of over 200%
20% experienced salary increase of 100-200%
24% 50-100%
12% 25-50%

These stats are very impressive! Even at the low end for someone who already made a lot , still up to 50% increase.
Placement statistics

http://www.mbacareer.ust.hk/students/employment_highlights2007.htm

32% experienced salary increase of over 200%
20% experienced salary increase of 100-200%
24% 50-100%
12% 25-50%

These stats are very impressive! Even at the low end for someone who already made a lot , still up to 50% increase.

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madhu
Placement statistics

http://www.mbacareer.ust.hk/students/employment_highlights.htm

32% experienced salary increase of over 200%
20% experienced salary increase of 100-200%
24% 50-100%
12% 25-50%

These stats are very impressive! Even at the low end for someone who already made a lot , still up to 50% increase.



so 50% at least doubled salary after HK UST MBA?
<blockquote>Placement statistics

http://www.mbacareer.ust.hk/students/employment_highlights.htm

32% experienced salary increase of over 200%
20% experienced salary increase of 100-200%
24% 50-100%
12% 25-50%

These stats are very impressive! Even at the low end for someone who already made a lot , still up to 50% increase.

</blockquote>

so 50% at least doubled salary after HK UST MBA?
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copernicus
According to this article by eFinancialCareers,
http://news.efinancialcareers.hk/NEWS_ITEM/newsItemId-10705
the average salary for fresh graduate from top universities securing hedge fund positions is Sinagpore$ 40k, which is about 25.5k USD.

In light of this information, when you look at HK UST placement/salary figures post graduation in Asia, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
According to this article by eFinancialCareers,
http://news.efinancialcareers.hk/NEWS_ITEM/newsItemId-10705
the average salary for fresh graduate from top universities securing hedge fund positions is Sinagpore$ 40k, which is about 25.5k USD.

In light of this information, when you look at HK UST placement/salary figures post graduation in Asia, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.


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