CEIBS Top Chinese Business School?


Oasis
Dear all!!!

Whats the difference between BIMBA and Guanghua School of Management? I already realized that are two different programs!!! But I didn't understand if it is the same University? Does anybody can help me with this information??


It seems that Guanghua is the only school can offer Peking's MBA degree certificate, whereas BIMBA cannot.
<blockquote>Dear all!!!

Whats the difference between BIMBA and Guanghua School of Management? I already realized that are two different programs!!! But I didn't understand if it is the same University? Does anybody can help me with this information??</blockquote>

It seems that Guanghua is the only school can offer Peking's MBA degree certificate, whereas BIMBA cannot.
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Oasis
Guanghua is probably the stronger school within China, but I wouldn't discount the BiMBA program, with its connections to Vlerick and its solid position in the Chinese MBA rankings. Speaking of which - just a quick update to my original post - here are the top 7 programs in the most recent (2012) Forbes' China rankings, which gauges the business schools primarily based on value and ROI:

1. CEIBS
2. BiMBA (Peking)
3. Guanghua (Peking)
4. Tsinghua
5. Cheung Kong
6. Fudan
7. Anti (Shanghai Jiao Tong)



It seems that Guanghua ranks 54 in FT Global MBA Ranking this year. Besides, as for its IMBA (International MBA) program, only the 1st year is full-time and you can take internship during the 2nd year. Personally, I think this is what MBA meant to be.
<blockquote>Guanghua is probably the stronger school within China, but I wouldn't discount the BiMBA program, with its connections to Vlerick and its solid position in the Chinese MBA rankings. Speaking of which - just a quick update to my original post - here are the top 7 programs in the most recent (2012) Forbes' China rankings, which gauges the business schools primarily based on value and ROI:

1. CEIBS
2. BiMBA (Peking)
3. Guanghua (Peking)
4. Tsinghua
5. Cheung Kong
6. Fudan
7. Anti (Shanghai Jiao Tong)</blockquote>


It seems that Guanghua ranks 54 in FT Global MBA Ranking this year. Besides, as for its IMBA (International MBA) program, only the 1st year is full-time and you can take internship during the 2nd year. Personally, I think this is what MBA meant to be.
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Dear all!!!

Whats the difference between BIMBA and Guanghua School of Management? I already realized that are two different programs!!! But I didn't understand if it is the same University? Does anybody can help me with this information??


It seems that Guanghua is the only school can offer Peking's MBA degree certificate, whereas BIMBA cannot.



That is correct. BIMBA is a foreign program with fly in professors that only rents space at Peking University. The real MBA at Peking University is granted by Guanghua School of Management, which is a real business school with over 100 PhD faculty and over 2000 students. Only Guanghua is accredited and globally ranked by FT.
<blockquote><blockquote>Dear all!!!

Whats the difference between BIMBA and Guanghua School of Management? I already realized that are two different programs!!! But I didn't understand if it is the same University? Does anybody can help me with this information??</blockquote>

It seems that Guanghua is the only school can offer Peking's MBA degree certificate, whereas BIMBA cannot. </blockquote>


That is correct. BIMBA is a foreign program with fly in professors that only rents space at Peking University. The real MBA at Peking University is granted by Guanghua School of Management, which is a real business school with over 100 PhD faculty and over 2000 students. Only Guanghua is accredited and globally ranked by FT.
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Duncan
It's not true to say that BiMBA "only rents space at Peking University". The BiMBA leads to MBA degrees from both Peking University and Vlerick.

Around 20% of the BiMBA faculty are local. But, yes, it's a very different proposition: a triple-accredited MBA from mostly foreign faculty will be more attractive to students who want to learn about international business, while Guanghua clearly gives a stronger network in China.
It's not true to say that BiMBA "only rents space at Peking University". The BiMBA leads to MBA degrees from both Peking University and Vlerick.

Around 20% of the BiMBA faculty are local. But, yes, it's a very different proposition: a triple-accredited MBA from mostly foreign faculty will be more attractive to students who want to learn about international business, while Guanghua clearly gives a stronger network in China.
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It's not true to say that BiMBA "only rents space at Peking University". The BiMBA leads to qualifications from both Peking University and Vlerick.

Around 20% of the BiMBA faculty are local. But, yes, it's a very different proposition: a triple-accredited MBA from mostly foreign faculty will be more attractive to students who want to learn about international business, while Guanghua clearly gives a stronger network in China.


Why would you come to china to take courses from foreigners? Guanghua has about 20% of its IMBA taught by foreigners with real china business experience, not some fly in guy who has never worked in china

And bimba does not issue a Peking degree and the program is not accredited - yes their Belgium partner is accredited.
<blockquote>It's not true to say that BiMBA "only rents space at Peking University". The BiMBA leads to qualifications from both Peking University and Vlerick.

Around 20% of the BiMBA faculty are local. But, yes, it's a very different proposition: a triple-accredited MBA from mostly foreign faculty will be more attractive to students who want to learn about international business, while Guanghua clearly gives a stronger network in China.</blockquote>

Why would you come to china to take courses from foreigners? Guanghua has about 20% of its IMBA taught by foreigners with real china business experience, not some fly in guy who has never worked in china

And bimba does not issue a Peking degree and the program is not accredited - yes their Belgium partner is accredited.
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Duncan
Well, I think readers can make up their own mind. Anyone can read the BIMBA website and see that much of what you say is mistaken:
- BIMBA is "a joint educational venture, between Peking University (Beijing, China) and its global partners, operated by the National School of Development (NSD) at Peking University"
- "Vlerick's MBA degree has not only received official ratification from the Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China, it is also the only one in China holding all three major international business school accreditations - AACSB, EQUIS and AMBA."
- In addition to the Vlerick MBA, "After completing the courses, students will receive an EMBA degree granted by Peking University."

I don't understand why you have such a strong bias against BIMBA but it's clear that you have not done even basic research into the programme. You should re-evaluate your views.

Most students on the BIMBA have not "come to China". That's the other point you miss. Two-thirds of the students are Chinese. As for the contrast between being taught by "foreigners with real china business experience" and foreigners with PhD at BIMBA, I think that's also an important choice: the world's top MBAs are taught by PhDs, not by executives. The MBA is a professional *degree* informed by world-class research. If you're a foreigner wanting to understand China, Guanghua is a stronger choice. But to put China into a global context, BIMBA seems to be the choice for many students.
Well, I think readers can make up their own mind. Anyone can read the BIMBA website and see that much of what you say is mistaken:
- BIMBA is "a joint educational venture, between Peking University (Beijing, China) and its global partners, operated by the National School of Development (NSD) at Peking University"
- "Vlerick's MBA degree has not only received official ratification from the Ministry of Education of the People's Republic of China, it is also the only one in China holding all three major international business school accreditations - AACSB, EQUIS and AMBA."
- In addition to the Vlerick MBA, "After completing the courses, students will receive an EMBA degree granted by Peking University."

I don't understand why you have such a strong bias against BIMBA but it's clear that you have not done even basic research into the programme. You should re-evaluate your views.

Most students on the BIMBA have not "come to China". That's the other point you miss. Two-thirds of the students are Chinese. As for the contrast between being taught by "foreigners with real china business experience" and foreigners with PhD at BIMBA, I think that's also an important choice: the world's top MBAs are taught by PhDs, not by executives. The MBA is a professional *degree* informed by world-class research. If you're a foreigner wanting to understand China, Guanghua is a stronger choice. But to put China into a global context, BIMBA seems to be the choice for many students.
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Lotusblue
Dear all!!!

Whats the difference between BIMBA and Guanghua School of Management? I already realized that are two different programs!!! But I didn't understand if it is the same University? Does anybody can help me with this information??


It seems that Guanghua is the only school can offer Peking's MBA degree certificate, whereas BIMBA cannot.



That is correct. BIMBA is a foreign program with fly in professors that only rents space at Peking University. The real MBA at Peking University is granted by Guanghua School of Management, which is a real business school with over 100 PhD faculty and over 2000 students. Only Guanghua is accredited and globally ranked by FT.


I've spoken to CKGSB's students and marketing guys, according to my understanding, the post MBA career from CKGSB tends to be private sector / SOE oriented in mainland. Does anyone know more about them? Thanks to share some light.
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Dear all!!!

Whats the difference between BIMBA and Guanghua School of Management? I already realized that are two different programs!!! But I didn't understand if it is the same University? Does anybody can help me with this information??</blockquote>

It seems that Guanghua is the only school can offer Peking's MBA degree certificate, whereas BIMBA cannot. </blockquote>


That is correct. BIMBA is a foreign program with fly in professors that only rents space at Peking University. The real MBA at Peking University is granted by Guanghua School of Management, which is a real business school with over 100 PhD faculty and over 2000 students. Only Guanghua is accredited and globally ranked by FT. </blockquote>

I've spoken to CKGSB's students and marketing guys, according to my understanding, the post MBA career from CKGSB tends to be private sector / SOE oriented in mainland. Does anyone know more about them? Thanks to share some light.
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ralph
Quite a few (20-30 percent) of CKGSB grads tend to go into finance - VC firms, private equity and so-forth. Some go into IT and other tech functions.

But I wouldn't say that graduates go primarily into SOEs. Think of Ernst & Young, Forte Capital, Amazon, Lenovo, etc. - multinationals operating in China. These companies are looking to recruit people with knowledge of the mainland (and probably the language) who have management training.
Quite a few (20-30 percent) of CKGSB grads tend to go into finance - VC firms, private equity and so-forth. Some go into IT and other tech functions.

But I wouldn't say that graduates go primarily into SOEs. Think of Ernst & Young, Forte Capital, Amazon, Lenovo, etc. - multinationals operating in China. These companies are looking to recruit people with knowledge of the mainland (and probably the language) who have management training.
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