UBC Sauder vs. Simon Fraser


Brandtly
I'm looking at MBA programs in Vancouver, and UBC Sauder and Simon Fraser look like the best ones.

Since Simon Fraser is only one-year long, it means that the time away from work is less, and it costs a lot less as well. So I'm really leaning towards this one, simply from a bottom-line perspective.

Are there reasons why Sauder would be better?
I'm looking at MBA programs in Vancouver, and UBC Sauder and Simon Fraser look like the best ones.

Since Simon Fraser is only one-year long, it means that the time away from work is less, and it costs a lot less as well. So I'm really leaning towards this one, simply from a bottom-line perspective.

Are there reasons why Sauder would be better?

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Brandtly - what's your profile? If you have a business background (i.e. undergrad) then SMU may not be for you, since their MBA is geared more towards those without any formal business training.

That said, each school has their own strengths, and you should consider them in lieu to yours. That should provide you with which is a better option for you.

Are you looking for programs only in Vancouver?
Brandtly - what's your profile? If you have a business background (i.e. undergrad) then SMU may not be for you, since their MBA is geared more towards those without any formal business training.

That said, each school has their own strengths, and you should consider them in lieu to yours. That should provide you with which is a better option for you.

Are you looking for programs only in Vancouver?
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Duncan
The fees are not the bottom line: the outcome is the bottom line. Students from UBC graduate onto $78K and SFU grads get $60K. When you consider that the difference in salary will widen over time, that's a massive difference in the RoI. http://www.financialpost.com/executive/canadian-mba-programs/index.html?sort=salary
The fees are not the bottom line: the outcome is the bottom line. Students from UBC graduate onto $78K and SFU grads get $60K. When you consider that the difference in salary will widen over time, that's a massive difference in the RoI. http://www.financialpost.com/executive/canadian-mba-programs/index.html?sort=salary
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shewta
sir could tell me ROI on SFU and york uni. MSc in finance.
which would be better in long run?

the link u have provided shows:

Athabasca University St. Albert, Alta.



tution fee $43,500

salary $143,000
is it tue????
sir could tell me ROI on SFU and york uni. MSc in finance.
which would be better in long run?

the link u have provided shows:

Athabasca University St. Albert, Alta.



tution fee $43,500

salary $143,000
is it tue????
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Duncan
The Athabasca programme is an executive MBA. Those executives have 20 years of work experience. The salary is probably around there.

Ask the schools for placement data, then you can calculate the RoI yourself. More importantly, calculate the NPV. A $10000 programme that increases your salary by $20000 has a better RoI than a $20,000 programme which increases your salary by $39,000. But over a 40 year career, that $10,000 investment will produce an extra million, more or less, in revenue. Use NPV, not RoI.
The Athabasca programme is an executive MBA. Those executives have 20 years of work experience. The salary is probably around there.

Ask the schools for placement data, then you can calculate the RoI yourself. More importantly, calculate the NPV. A $10000 programme that increases your salary by $20000 has a better RoI than a $20,000 programme which increases your salary by $39,000. But over a 40 year career, that $10,000 investment will produce an extra million, more or less, in revenue. Use NPV, not RoI.

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Brandtly
Brandtly - what's your profile? If you have a business background (i.e. undergrad) then SMU may not be for you, since their MBA is geared more towards those without any formal business training.

My background is in sales, but I'd like to move into consulting. I don't have a business-related undergrad.

Are you looking for programs only in Vancouver?
Yes

The fees are not the bottom line: the outcome is the bottom line. Students from UBC graduate onto $78K and SFU grads get $60K.

This is the kind of information that I was looking for. I guess it would be worth taking another year and doing the UBC program. Thanks for this!
<blockquote>Brandtly - what's your profile? If you have a business background (i.e. undergrad) then SMU may not be for you, since their MBA is geared more towards those without any formal business training.</blockquote>
My background is in sales, but I'd like to move into consulting. I don't have a business-related undergrad.

<blockquote>Are you looking for programs only in Vancouver?</blockquote>Yes

<blockquote>The fees are not the bottom line: the outcome is the bottom line. Students from UBC graduate onto $78K and SFU grads get $60K.</blockquote>
This is the kind of information that I was looking for. I guess it would be worth taking another year and doing the UBC program. Thanks for this!
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emgh
Can anyone shed light on on why Simon Fraser is ranked so well? It seems to be a fairly expensive program (over 40K once all fees are considered) and have one of the lowest average starting salaries in Canada....

When comparing it with Uvic, the salaries are lower, the tuition and cost of living are higher, and the curriculum and accreditation seem nearly identical. Yet, SFU it's continuously in Canada's top ten and Uvic is never mentioned.

I have been accepted to both schools, and am having a really tough time making a choice. Any insight would be very helpful.
Can anyone shed light on on why Simon Fraser is ranked so well? It seems to be a fairly expensive program (over 40K once all fees are considered) and have one of the lowest average starting salaries in Canada....

When comparing it with Uvic, the salaries are lower, the tuition and cost of living are higher, and the curriculum and accreditation seem nearly identical. Yet, SFU it's continuously in Canada's top ten and Uvic is never mentioned.

I have been accepted to both schools, and am having a really tough time making a choice. Any insight would be very helpful.
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Duncan
You can't take the CB rankings seriously, and not only because it's awards positive points for low tutition, when that is certainly not a sign of quality: UBC, McGill, Queen's, Toronto, Western and Windsor don't take part. Use the FT rankings, and perhaps also calculate the NPV of the programmes
You can't take the CB rankings seriously, and not only because it's awards positive points for low tutition, when that is certainly not a sign of quality: UBC, McGill, Queen's, Toronto, Western and Windsor don't take part. Use the FT rankings, and perhaps also calculate the NPV of the programmes
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ralph
When comparing it with Uvic, the salaries are lower, the tuition and cost of living are higher, and the curriculum and accreditation seem nearly identical. Yet, SFU it's continuously in Canada's top ten and Uvic is never mentioned.

Where did you find the salary statistics? I didn't think either school published these.
<blockquote>When comparing it with Uvic, the salaries are lower, the tuition and cost of living are higher, and the curriculum and accreditation seem nearly identical. Yet, SFU it's continuously in Canada's top ten and Uvic is never mentioned.
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Where did you find the salary statistics? I didn't think either school published these.
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emgh
The 58,000 stat for SFU is published on the Financial Post and Canadian Business rankings. I also spoke with a recent graduate, and she said she felt it was accurate

The 78,000 stat for UVIC is only self-reported. I;m not sure if they would come right out and lie about it, but I do have a feeling it's skewed in some way.... They have a lot of international students, so maybe they are finding high paying jobs in other countries? I have not spoken with any recent graduates to get a feel if they would feel this is accurate.

Still really on the fence between these two schools. Can't seem to find something to push one way or the other.
The 58,000 stat for SFU is published on the Financial Post and Canadian Business rankings. I also spoke with a recent graduate, and she said she felt it was accurate

The 78,000 stat for UVIC is only self-reported. I;m not sure if they would come right out and lie about it, but I do have a feeling it's skewed in some way.... They have a lot of international students, so maybe they are finding high paying jobs in other countries? I have not spoken with any recent graduates to get a feel if they would feel this is accurate.

Still really on the fence between these two schools. Can't seem to find something to push one way or the other.
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ezra
They have a lot of international students, so maybe they are finding high paying jobs in other countries?

I doubt that would be the case, since international students, depending on where they are coming from, usually see higher salaries when they stay in Canada. I would be surprised if Victoria has higher salaries, given the differences in costs of living between the two cities, unless there was something else to explain it, like UVic students going to another part of Canada. It's hard to say since they don't publish any statistics.

I would try to connect with graduates and get a sense of the reality.
<blockquote>They have a lot of international students, so maybe they are finding high paying jobs in other countries?</blockquote>
I doubt that would be the case, since international students, depending on where they are coming from, usually see higher salaries when they stay in Canada. I would be surprised if Victoria has higher salaries, given the differences in costs of living between the two cities, unless there was something else to explain it, like UVic students going to another part of Canada. It's hard to say since they don't publish any statistics.

I would try to connect with graduates and get a sense of the reality.
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