There's a PDF of the certificate on the website!
http://executive.mit.edu/executivecertificates/management/?cid=tw_mlec_nov11
How to spot a vanity credential
Posted Dec 06, 2011 12:30
http://executive.mit.edu/executivecertificates/management/?cid=tw_mlec_nov11
Posted Dec 07, 2011 14:06
Duncan,
I thought it is a great 2-5 days exec programme!
Being a techie, I liked this ..
http://executive.mit.edu/openenrollment/program/managing_technical_professionals_and_organizations/24
Is it not worth $3000? MIT brand..
I thought it is a great 2-5 days exec programme!
Being a techie, I liked this ..
http://executive.mit.edu/openenrollment/program/managing_technical_professionals_and_organizations/24
Is it not worth $3000? MIT brand..
Posted Dec 07, 2011 14:28
This is worth spending on- alumni status! http://web.mit.edu/professional/advanced-study/
Posted Dec 09, 2011 13:00
Duncan,
Is this one a vanity programme as well?
http://www.som.cranfield.ac.uk/som/p13750/Programmes-and-Executive-Development/OEP-Home/Programmes/Leadership/Cranfield-IT-leadership-Programme
Thanks.
Is this one a vanity programme as well?
http://www.som.cranfield.ac.uk/som/p13750/Programmes-and-Executive-Development/OEP-Home/Programmes/Leadership/Cranfield-IT-leadership-Programme
Thanks.
Posted Dec 09, 2011 14:10
I wouldn't say so: no certificate, after all ;-)
Posted Dec 09, 2011 14:18
George... for only 95000$ you can have this online :-)
http://sdm.mit.edu/
http://sdm.mit.edu/
Posted Dec 09, 2011 20:14
How about this Advanced Masters (certificate) from Tulane? Only $5K! http://www.tulaneu.com/online-certificate-programs/advanced-master-certificates.aspx
PS Hilarious! These are "for credit" on line courses, but even Tulane itself does not accept the credits! http://www.tulaneu.com/faq/#faq-4440
PS Hilarious! These are "for credit" on line courses, but even Tulane itself does not accept the credits! http://www.tulaneu.com/faq/#faq-4440
Posted Dec 09, 2011 20:26
well.,.. Tulane is not as fashion as MIT ... :-)
Duncan, are there in Europe programs similar to http://lgo.mit.edu/ ?
Duncan, are there in Europe programs similar to http://lgo.mit.edu/ ?
Posted Dec 09, 2011 20:40
That's the former "Leaders for Manufacturing" programme, which was part of the Cambridge-MIT deal. Look at http://www.ifm.eng.cam.ac.uk/ and the Zaragoza-MIT partnership.
Posted Dec 10, 2011 11:37
thank you
By the way i don't understand how Zaragoza can offer a dual degree with IE or EBS.
It's like to sell Gucci and an unknown brand in the same shop...
By the way i don't understand how Zaragoza can offer a dual degree with IE or EBS.
It's like to sell Gucci and an unknown brand in the same shop...
Posted Dec 12, 2011 14:00
I recently had chance to participate in an executives event in London. I used the chance to test the credibility of various schools by casual chat with senior exec people - mostly Brits.
My finding are really interesting ..
1. People have no clue of what MIT means
2. Business school means to them is LBS and HBS
3. Top university means to them is Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial, UCL, Durham, St Andrews, Edinburgh.
4. Nearly none of them have a masters degree let alone MBA.
5. Very few have attended some short exec courses at LBS/CASS
5. The one's who have MBA have a great respect for LBS and Cranfield
6. Networking - "The single most skill" used in their success at every stage.
My finding are really interesting ..
1. People have no clue of what MIT means
2. Business school means to them is LBS and HBS
3. Top university means to them is Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Imperial, UCL, Durham, St Andrews, Edinburgh.
4. Nearly none of them have a masters degree let alone MBA.
5. Very few have attended some short exec courses at LBS/CASS
5. The one's who have MBA have a great respect for LBS and Cranfield
6. Networking - "The single most skill" used in their success at every stage.
Posted Dec 14, 2011 03:44
Well, all I can draw from your story is that misinformation or stupidity does not help at all and so we should go our own ways and not drag ourselves down to misinformation
Posted Dec 16, 2011 02:02
I have no plan to start a "mine is bigger than yours" war. I was just surprised to hear a school that I admired from secondary school was unknown to few execs this side of Atlantic.
It is just a view from the section of exec's that I spoke to. I get the chance of getting close to the execs in the square mile, not many would get it or willing got share the "secrets of the senior guys". As you think it looks strange and misinformation but try speaking to a few and you will understand how less informed they are.
I have no intention of spreading any misinformation or promoting ideas here. The intention was to get views from different people and share experiences - well, that is the whole idea of a forum, isn't it? If I want to sell an idea/product I would use different powerful media.
It is just a view from the section of exec's that I spoke to. I get the chance of getting close to the execs in the square mile, not many would get it or willing got share the "secrets of the senior guys". As you think it looks strange and misinformation but try speaking to a few and you will understand how less informed they are.
I have no intention of spreading any misinformation or promoting ideas here. The intention was to get views from different people and share experiences - well, that is the whole idea of a forum, isn't it? If I want to sell an idea/product I would use different powerful media.
Posted Dec 19, 2011 11:33
Mauro, also take a look at http://www.manufacturinginstitute.co.uk/text.asp?PageId=58
Posted Dec 19, 2011 13:15
hi Duncan, thank you for the link
I noticed that the program is part-time... probably a very good choice for someone already into manufacturing.
I noticed that the program is part-time... probably a very good choice for someone already into manufacturing.
Posted Dec 19, 2011 14:53
Yeah man this is really good, better and more rigorous than other programs you have looked at.
I would forego the Manchester brand for this solid academic portfolio
The only better choice is of course my favorite Edinburgh
I would forego the Manchester brand for this solid academic portfolio
The only better choice is of course my favorite Edinburgh
Posted Dec 19, 2011 15:02
Donho, you meant to post that at http://www.find-mba.com/board/23070/last/#last
Posted Feb 06, 2012 19:48
To be fair, the programs you guys are talking about in this thread are "executive education" courses, rather than MBA programs. These are usually short classes that employees take to surgically improve specific skills (leadership, management, etc.) As opposed to MBA programs, companies often cover the costs so that their employees can perform better.
In terms of expectations and outcomes, they differ vastly from MBAs.
In terms of expectations and outcomes, they differ vastly from MBAs.
Posted Feb 06, 2012 20:10
Today I had a nice conversation with ZLOG at the online Economist fair..some highlights:
1) all students placed within 3 months from graduation
2) salary ranging from 21000e to 149000e mostly depending on past experience
3) Gmat between 575 and 735
4) avg age 29... 22min 50 max
5) who hires? Large companies, consulting firms, boutiques... start-ups
6) You receive a Master degree and a certificate from MIT
1) all students placed within 3 months from graduation
2) salary ranging from 21000e to 149000e mostly depending on past experience
3) Gmat between 575 and 735
4) avg age 29... 22min 50 max
5) who hires? Large companies, consulting firms, boutiques... start-ups
6) You receive a Master degree and a certificate from MIT
Posted Feb 06, 2012 20:37
I wonder what the average salary is? Who is the masters degree awarded by?
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