Full-time MBA Fordham or Baruch in CUNY


Emme Yang
Dears

I've been admitted by Fordham and CUNY-full-time MBA 2016.
CUNY provides USD 24,000 schorlarship; while Fordham provides nothing.
Which one is better?
Based on ranking, reputation, alumni, social network, professors background,etc?

I know both are not as good as Columbia or NYU. I need to step by step to study and work.
My target is first go to NYC and then work in corporate finance industry. And later take a master of quantitive degree in Columbia or NYU.

Any suggestions? Thank you!

[Edited by Emme Yang on Mar 29, 2017]

Dears

I've been admitted by Fordham and CUNY-full-time MBA 2016.
CUNY provides USD 24,000 schorlarship; while Fordham provides nothing.
Which one is better?
Based on ranking, reputation, alumni, social network, professors background,etc?

I know both are not as good as Columbia or NYU. I need to step by step to study and work.
My target is first go to NYC and then work in corporate finance industry. And later take a master of quantitive degree in Columbia or NYU.

Any suggestions? Thank you!
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Duncan
Try this. http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/admission-in-new-york-45428?latest=true#post-id-45567
Try this. http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/admission-in-new-york-45428?latest=true#post-id-45567
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Emme Yang
Try this. http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/admission-in-new-york-45428?latest=true#post-id-45567[/quote]

Checked but didn't get any clue. Could you clearly suggest which one is better? Thank you!
[quote]Try this. http://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/admission-in-new-york-45428?latest=true#post-id-45567[/quote]

Checked but didn't get any clue. Could you clearly suggest which one is better? Thank you!
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Duncan
The links I give in my post there give you two strong tools: StartClass and LinkedIn. If they don't give you a clue then maybe you need more time to explore more options?
The links I give in my post there give you two strong tools: StartClass and LinkedIn. If they don't give you a clue then maybe you need more time to explore more options?
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Razors Edg...
The real issue is that one of these schools is not clearly better than the other, but each one's strengths will cater to different kinds of students. CUNY is fairly strong for placements in financial services, but corporate finance is a different animal altogether.

What I would do is look at the particular firms/industries that you would be interested in working in - corporate finance roles can be found all over - and find out where (or even if) people in those firms did their MBAs.
The real issue is that one of these schools is not clearly better than the other, but each one's strengths will cater to different kinds of students. CUNY is fairly strong for placements in financial services, but corporate finance is a different animal altogether.

What I would do is look at the particular firms/industries that you would be interested in working in - corporate finance roles can be found all over - and find out where (or even if) people in those firms did their MBAs.
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CRinconV
Hi,
I am an international student (Lima/Peru). I have been admitted to Fordham & Zicklin (Full time MBA). Both school offered me partial scholarship. Now, I have to choose the school.
Some points of my profile: 6 years work experience (Colgate Palmolive / SC Johnson
Post MBA Goal: CPG companies / Commercial departments (MKT, Sales).
What school would be better for me? Which is better in terms of international students placement?

Thank you for your help!
Best,
CR
Hi,
I am an international student (Lima/Peru). I have been admitted to Fordham & Zicklin (Full time MBA). Both school offered me partial scholarship. Now, I have to choose the school.
Some points of my profile: 6 years work experience (Colgate Palmolive / SC Johnson
Post MBA Goal: CPG companies / Commercial departments (MKT, Sales).
What school would be better for me? Which is better in terms of international students placement?

Thank you for your help!
Best,
CR
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Duncan
Take a look at https://find-mba.com/board/usa/which-school-is-better-fordham-buffalo-or-zicklin-28549
Take a look at https://find-mba.com/board/usa/which-school-is-better-fordham-buffalo-or-zicklin-28549
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mba hipste...
Fordham is generically better, given its placements in the Businessweek rankings. What are your goals?
Fordham is generically better, given its placements in the Businessweek rankings. What are your goals?
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Ayon
Here are few pointers you may want to think of.

1) Location: Zicklin is in Manhatten vs Fordham at Bronx. May affect if you don't wanna live in Bronx, or Manhattan or minimize your travel time etc.

2) Fees: I believe CUNY is a lot cheaper than Fordham, which means - given the unwillingness of companies to hire Internationals - you may want to invest as less as you can to maximize your ROI. I don't think there is a significant difference in terms of placement excluding Finance roles (I have reason to believe that Fordham have a big alumni presence in Finance roles in NYC over CUNY - but no data to support it).

3) Reputation: Usually Fordham was considered more reputed than CUNY. That may or may not into anything for an international student.
In terms of post MBA goals, I don't think either school is going to give you an edge. you would have to build your own network and apply. Expect lot of resistance from companies, and little to no help from school.

P.S - I did some research for Fordham vs CUNY for my sister who is currently enrolled in Fordham MSMI. We selected Fordham MSMI because it has STEM OPT even though CUNY was less than half the price of Fordham.

I'd go for CUNY MBA
Here are few pointers you may want to think of.

1) Location: Zicklin is in Manhatten vs Fordham at Bronx. May affect if you don't wanna live in Bronx, or Manhattan or minimize your travel time etc.

2) Fees: I believe CUNY is a lot cheaper than Fordham, which means - given the unwillingness of companies to hire Internationals - you may want to invest as less as you can to maximize your ROI. I don't think there is a significant difference in terms of placement excluding Finance roles (I have reason to believe that Fordham have a big alumni presence in Finance roles in NYC over CUNY - but no data to support it).

3) Reputation: Usually Fordham was considered more reputed than CUNY. That may or may not into anything for an international student.
In terms of post MBA goals, I don't think either school is going to give you an edge. you would have to build your own network and apply. Expect lot of resistance from companies, and little to no help from school.

P.S - I did some research for Fordham vs CUNY for my sister who is currently enrolled in Fordham MSMI. We selected Fordham MSMI because it has STEM OPT even though CUNY was less than half the price of Fordham.

I'd go for CUNY MBA
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Duncan
A glance on LinkedIn will show you that there is a difference in placement. CUNY's ongoing financial problems are important too. I think this person's targets, CPG and marketing, don't really make such a big difference but in IB, for example, I think it would. Certainly the cohort and experience will be better and more diverse at Fordham.
A glance on LinkedIn will show you that there is a difference in placement. CUNY's ongoing financial problems are important too. I think this person's targets, CPG and marketing, don't really make such a big difference but in IB, for example, I think it would. Certainly the cohort and experience will be better and more diverse at Fordham.
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mba hipste...
Here are few pointers you may want to think of.

1) Location: Zicklin is in Manhatten vs Fordham at Bronx. May affect if you don't wanna live in Bronx, or Manhattan or minimize your travel time etc.

I don't know if that's such a big concern - the train from Fordham to midtown is like 25 minutes each way.
[quote]Here are few pointers you may want to think of.

1) Location: Zicklin is in Manhatten vs Fordham at Bronx. May affect if you don't wanna live in Bronx, or Manhattan or minimize your travel time etc. [/quote]
I don't know if that's such a big concern - the train from Fordham to midtown is like 25 minutes each way.
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Duncan
The Bronx? In August Forham's graduate business school occupied the former law school building in Manhattan's Lincoln Centre; My guess is that the MBA will use that location increasingly: the BBA in global business students are already there.

PS See http://news.fordham.edu/campus-locations/lincoln-center/lincoln-centers-newest-addition-opens-doors-for-business/

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The Bronx? In August Forham's graduate business school occupied the former law school building in Manhattan's Lincoln Centre; My guess is that the MBA will use that location increasingly: the BBA in global business students are already there.

PS See http://news.fordham.edu/campus-locations/lincoln-center/lincoln-centers-newest-addition-opens-doors-for-business/
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A glance on LinkedIn will show you that there is a difference in placement. CUNY's ongoing financial problems are important too. I think this person's targets, CPG and marketing, don't really make such a big difference but in IB, for example, I think it would. Certainly the cohort and experience will be better and more diverse at Fordham.

I'm interested to hear more about CUNY's financial problems. Is there a risk the school will close? I am targeting CUNY or Fordham for MBA and this note is a bit concerning!
[quote]A glance on LinkedIn will show you that there is a difference in placement. CUNY's ongoing financial problems are important too. I think this person's targets, CPG and marketing, don't really make such a big difference but in IB, for example, I think it would. Certainly the cohort and experience will be better and more diverse at Fordham. [/quote]
I'm interested to hear more about CUNY's financial problems. Is there a risk the school will close? I am targeting CUNY or Fordham for MBA and this note is a bit concerning!
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Duncan
Google news is your friend. CUNY is one of the world's biggest universities. Too big to close, but really poorly funded.
Google news is your friend. CUNY is one of the world's biggest universities. Too big to close, but really poorly funded.
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How much do you think this would affect the MBA? Wouldn't the business school be better funded than the rest of the organization, given the cost of MBA tuition and alumni endowments?
How much do you think this would affect the MBA? Wouldn't the business school be better funded than the rest of the organization, given the cost of MBA tuition and alumni endowments?
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Duncan
Certainly a business school can rise or fall independently of the university. But the Zicklin school doesn't charge more per year than other Baruch schools, and it has a modest endowment.
Certainly a business school can rise or fall independently of the university. But the Zicklin school doesn't charge more per year than other Baruch schools, and it has a modest endowment.
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Razors Edg...
I think the MBA tends to be more costly than at least most? of the other programs at Baruch. It's around $37k for NY residents while the MPA at Marxe is around $24k for example. Non-NY students pay more for the MBA too: $56k vs. $41k.
I think the MBA tends to be more costly than at least most? of the other programs at Baruch. It's around $37k for NY residents while the MPA at Marxe is around $24k for example. Non-NY students pay more for the MBA too: $56k vs. $41k.
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