Warwick MBA Strengths


ProfPlum

Afternoon,

I am heavily considering attending Warwick to study my MBA. Realistically it's the best MBA program I will get into given an average GMAT and good-but-not-great undergrad/MSc results. I also want to stay in the UK and it seems to be the best choice outside of Oxbridge and LBS.

One thing I was wondering though is where Warwick MBA end up. I spoke with the team at WBS and they said a lot go into finance and consulting. They said they have industry links with Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, Credit Suisse, McKinsey, Deloitte and Accenture.

I've looked through the Linkedin alumni page and this just doesn't seem to add up. Hardly any alumni work in the above companies and I can't find any former Warwick MBA that works in McKinsey. This isn't too much of an issue - my background is in innovation funding and I am looking to continue this into a general Corporate Finance or IB role. However, I can't seem to trace many alumni from the Warwick MBA into finance associate positions or similar roles.

Was just wondering if anyone knows what Warwick's strengths are? They seem to put a lot of MBAs into IBM. Do they have much success in placing into banking/IB/corp finance that I'm missing on Linkedin?

Thanks for all your help in advance,

Andy

Afternoon,

I am heavily considering attending Warwick to study my MBA. Realistically it's the best MBA program I will get into given an average GMAT and good-but-not-great undergrad/MSc results. I also want to stay in the UK and it seems to be the best choice outside of Oxbridge and LBS.

One thing I was wondering though is where Warwick MBA end up. I spoke with the team at WBS and they said a lot go into finance and consulting. They said they have industry links with Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, Credit Suisse, McKinsey, Deloitte and Accenture.

I've looked through the Linkedin alumni page and this just doesn't seem to add up. Hardly any alumni work in the above companies and I can't find any former Warwick MBA that works in McKinsey. This isn't too much of an issue - my background is in innovation funding and I am looking to continue this into a general Corporate Finance or IB role. However, I can't seem to trace many alumni from the Warwick MBA into finance associate positions or similar roles.

Was just wondering if anyone knows what Warwick's strengths are? They seem to put a lot of MBAs into IBM. Do they have much success in placing into banking/IB/corp finance that I'm missing on Linkedin?

Thanks for all your help in advance,

Andy
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Duncan

I think you have your answer...

I think you have your answer...
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ProfPlum

Yeah perhaps. Just seems strange as their MSc Finance is so successful and they obviously have great links with these companies just it doesn't trickle over into the MBA.

Do you know of any reason why this is? There are a vast amount of finance electives I thought that would've given good overlap with the Finance courses and would have opened up those types of opportunities?

Yeah perhaps. Just seems strange as their MSc Finance is so successful and they obviously have great links with these companies just it doesn't trickle over into the MBA.

Do you know of any reason why this is? There are a vast amount of finance electives I thought that would've given good overlap with the Finance courses and would have opened up those types of opportunities?
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Duncan

Well, I think they do pretty well but the finance core is very light there and in such a compressed time frame just one term of electives doesn't do anything to bring the students up to where the LBS, Cass, Cranfield and MBS students are. To be honest, Warwick is where you go to avoid quant stuff.

Well, I think they do pretty well but the finance core is very light there and in such a compressed time frame just one term of electives doesn't do anything to bring the students up to where the LBS, Cass, Cranfield and MBS students are. To be honest, Warwick is where you go to avoid quant stuff.
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mba hipste...

Good-but-not-great undergrad results are less of an issue than your length and quality of work experience. Depending on that, and if you can re-take the GMAT, you might be able to aim higher.

And if you want to get into Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, etc., then you'll probably want to aim higher.

Good-but-not-great undergrad results are less of an issue than your length and quality of work experience. Depending on that, and if you can re-take the GMAT, you might be able to aim higher.

And if you want to get into Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, etc., then you'll probably want to aim higher.
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Aim higher on the GMAT or a better program?

Aim higher on the GMAT or a better program?
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mba hipste...

Both.

Both.
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priya08

Well, I think they do pretty well but the finance core is very light there and in such a compressed time frame just one term of electives doesn't do anything to bring the students up to where the LBS, Cass, Cranfield and MBS students are. To be honest, Warwick is where you go to avoid quant stuff.


Hi Duncan, I have have 3 years of work ex in Change Management and Learning Strategy at Accenture and Deloitte Consulting. I have an average GMAT and have admits from Cass and Warwick. Post-MBA, I would like to come back to work with either of the organizations but in the core Strategy group. Between Cass and Warick, which school would you suggest in terms of post MBA options and brand equity? Thanks.

[quote]Well, I think they do pretty well but the finance core is very light there and in such a compressed time frame just one term of electives doesn't do anything to bring the students up to where the LBS, Cass, Cranfield and MBS students are. To be honest, Warwick is where you go to avoid quant stuff. [/quote]

Hi Duncan, I have have 3 years of work ex in Change Management and Learning Strategy at Accenture and Deloitte Consulting. I have an average GMAT and have admits from Cass and Warwick. Post-MBA, I would like to come back to work with either of the organizations but in the core Strategy group. Between Cass and Warick, which school would you suggest in terms of post MBA options and brand equity? Thanks.
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Duncan

I think that really comes down to a micro-level analysis of alumni networks and hiring managers. Cass give you much better networking.

I think that really comes down to a micro-level analysis of alumni networks and hiring managers. Cass give you much better networking.
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Chi Wang

Afternoon,

I am heavily considering attending Warwick to study my MBA. Realistically it's the best MBA program I will get into given an average GMAT and good-but-not-great undergrad/MSc results. I also want to stay in the UK and it seems to be the best choice outside of Oxbridge and LBS.

One thing I was wondering though is where Warwick MBA end up. I spoke with the team at WBS and they said a lot go into finance and consulting. They said they have industry links with Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, Credit Suisse, McKinsey, Deloitte and Accenture.

I've looked through the Linkedin alumni page and this just doesn't seem to add up. Hardly any alumni work in the above companies and I can't find any former Warwick MBA that works in McKinsey. This isn't too much of an issue - my background is in innovation funding and I am looking to continue this into a general Corporate Finance or IB role. However, I can't seem to trace many alumni from the Warwick MBA into finance associate positions or similar roles.

Was just wondering if anyone knows what Warwick's strengths are? They seem to put a lot of MBAs into IBM. Do they have much success in placing into banking/IB/corp finance that I'm missing on Linkedin?

Thanks for all your help in advance,

Andy

want to ask where you end up?did you go to Warwick for the MBA study? if so how was it?

[quote]Afternoon,

I am heavily considering attending Warwick to study my MBA. Realistically it's the best MBA program I will get into given an average GMAT and good-but-not-great undergrad/MSc results. I also want to stay in the UK and it seems to be the best choice outside of Oxbridge and LBS.

One thing I was wondering though is where Warwick MBA end up. I spoke with the team at WBS and they said a lot go into finance and consulting. They said they have industry links with Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, Credit Suisse, McKinsey, Deloitte and Accenture.

I've looked through the Linkedin alumni page and this just doesn't seem to add up. Hardly any alumni work in the above companies and I can't find any former Warwick MBA that works in McKinsey. This isn't too much of an issue - my background is in innovation funding and I am looking to continue this into a general Corporate Finance or IB role. However, I can't seem to trace many alumni from the Warwick MBA into finance associate positions or similar roles.

Was just wondering if anyone knows what Warwick's strengths are? They seem to put a lot of MBAs into IBM. Do they have much success in placing into banking/IB/corp finance that I'm missing on Linkedin?

Thanks for all your help in advance,

Andy[/quote]
want to ask where you end up?did you go to Warwick for the MBA study? if so how was it?
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priya08

I think that really comes down to a micro-level analysis of alumni networks and hiring managers. Cass give you much better networking.


I've realized that bit about Cass that the location affords to its students a good opportunity to network. But at the end of the day, if I were competing for a position as a Cass student and was up against someone from Warwick with similar work ex and potential, then in your opinion, how would a hiring manager perceive this situation? Will the Warwick student get an edge coming from a more "reputable" school?

Also, Coventry doesn't seem too far away from London and some classes are run out of The Shard too; this makes me believe that I may not be totally cut off from potential networking opportunities if I were to pick WBS over Cass.

I will appreciate any insights on this, Duncan.

[quote]I think that really comes down to a micro-level analysis of alumni networks and hiring managers. Cass give you much better networking.[/quote]

I've realized that bit about Cass that the location affords to its students a good opportunity to network. But at the end of the day, if I were competing for a position as a Cass student and was up against someone from Warwick with similar work ex and potential, then in your opinion, how would a hiring manager perceive this situation? Will the Warwick student get an edge coming from a more "reputable" school?

Also, Coventry doesn't seem too far away from London and some classes are run out of The Shard too; this makes me believe that I may not be totally cut off from potential networking opportunities if I were to pick WBS over Cass.

I will appreciate any insights on this, Duncan.
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Duncan

Warwick is #43 and Cass is #50 (not a meaningful difference). Cass students get much higher salaries, stronger career growth and faster salary growth. Warwick has better careers services, and might be better for career changers and switchers looking to move into consultancy: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020 Warwick has a much bigger alumni network, but I see that 32/46 UK alumni in Accenture/Deloitte have strategy in their LinkedIn profiles, compared to 16/19 at Cass. So, Cass MBAs seem much more focused on strategy. Most of the UK Cass MBA alumni at those firms are in London, and most of those from Warwick are outside London: so, it also comes down to the kind of career path you want. The London factor perhaps explains the faster salary growth for the Cass students, since they could be on higher-value career paths serving the financial services and fintech industries.

Obviously, the Warwick alumni network is also a bit more diffuse and low energy because most students are in the DL MBA.

[Edited by Duncan on Mar 05, 2020]

Warwick is #43 and Cass is #50 (not a meaningful difference). Cass students get much higher salaries, stronger career growth and faster salary growth. Warwick has better careers services, and might be better for career changers and switchers looking to move into consultancy: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020 Warwick has a much bigger alumni network, but I see that 32/46 UK alumni in Accenture/Deloitte have strategy in their LinkedIn profiles, compared to 16/19 at Cass. So, Cass MBAs seem much more focused on strategy. Most of the UK Cass MBA alumni at those firms are in London, and most of those from Warwick are outside London: so, it also comes down to the kind of career path you want. The London factor perhaps explains the faster salary growth for the Cass students, since they could be on higher-value career paths serving the financial services and fintech industries.

Obviously, the Warwick alumni network is also a bit more diffuse and low energy because most students are in the DL MBA.
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Duncan

Both schools' alumni rate them very highly for strategy. The design of the Cass programme is clearly much better for people moving into consultancy, because of the way that consulting projects are built into the programme. https://www.cass.city.ac.uk/study/mba/full-time/programme-structure The Cass free elective annually for life is massively valuable.

Cass also gives you a very deep network in finance. If consulting to finance was an interest, it would be a no-brainer.

[Edited by Duncan on Mar 05, 2020]

Both schools' alumni rate them very highly for strategy. The design of the Cass programme is clearly much better for people moving into consultancy, because of the way that consulting projects are built into the programme. https://www.cass.city.ac.uk/study/mba/full-time/programme-structure The Cass free elective annually for life is massively valuable.

Cass also gives you a very deep network in finance. If consulting to finance was an interest, it would be a no-brainer.
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mba hipste...


Also, Coventry doesn't seem too far away from London and some classes are run out of The Shard too; this makes me believe that I may not be totally cut off from potential networking opportunities if I were to pick WBS over Cass.


Although I agree with Duncan's take on Cass vs Warwick, I would say that you are right here. Not only that, but the school does also run regular recruiting fairs in London, which I believe they transport students to.

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Also, Coventry doesn't seem too far away from London and some classes are run out of The Shard too; this makes me believe that I may not be totally cut off from potential networking opportunities if I were to pick WBS over Cass.
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Although I agree with Duncan's take on Cass vs Warwick, I would say that you are right here. Not only that, but the school does also run regular recruiting fairs in London, which I believe they transport students to.
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priya08

Warwick is #43 and Cass is #50 (not a meaningful difference). Cass students get much higher salaries, stronger career growth and faster salary growth. Warwick has better careers services, and might be better for career changers and switchers looking to move into consultancy: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020 Warwick has a much bigger alumni network, but I see that 32/46 UK alumni in Accenture/Deloitte have strategy in their LinkedIn profiles, compared to 16/19 at Cass. So, Cass MBAs seem much more focused on strategy. Most of the UK Cass MBA alumni at those firms are in London, and most of those from Warwick are outside London: so, it also comes down to the kind of career path you want. The London factor perhaps explains the faster salary growth for the Cass students, since they could be on higher-value career paths serving the financial services and fintech industries.

Obviously, the Warwick alumni network is also a bit more diffuse and low energy because most students are in the DL MBA.


Hey Duncan, thanks a lot for helping me understand where the students are placed for Strategy -- Cass seems like the better choice here. Since I already am in Consulting at Deloitte, I wish to use my MBA to ultimately step up to more meaningful roles in the Customer & Markets or the Strategy & Operations groups. I am hoping to rely heavily on my existing networks at these organizations to break into their London offices.

Duncan, it would be really great if you may be able to help me understand if Warwick performs better in comparison to Cass in any other aspects -- perhaps the brand equity? As I am personally still a bit more inclined towards taking up WBS over Cass due to the cost factor.

Thank you for all your insight, really appreciate it.

[quote]Warwick is #43 and Cass is #50 (not a meaningful difference). Cass students get much higher salaries, stronger career growth and faster salary growth. Warwick has better careers services, and might be better for career changers and switchers looking to move into consultancy: http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2020 Warwick has a much bigger alumni network, but I see that 32/46 UK alumni in Accenture/Deloitte have strategy in their LinkedIn profiles, compared to 16/19 at Cass. So, Cass MBAs seem much more focused on strategy. Most of the UK Cass MBA alumni at those firms are in London, and most of those from Warwick are outside London: so, it also comes down to the kind of career path you want. The London factor perhaps explains the faster salary growth for the Cass students, since they could be on higher-value career paths serving the financial services and fintech industries.

Obviously, the Warwick alumni network is also a bit more diffuse and low energy because most students are in the DL MBA. [/quote]

Hey Duncan, thanks a lot for helping me understand where the students are placed for Strategy -- Cass seems like the better choice here. Since I already am in Consulting at Deloitte, I wish to use my MBA to ultimately step up to more meaningful roles in the Customer & Markets or the Strategy & Operations groups. I am hoping to rely heavily on my existing networks at these organizations to break into their London offices.

Duncan, it would be really great if you may be able to help me understand if Warwick performs better in comparison to Cass in any other aspects -- perhaps the brand equity? As I am personally still a bit more inclined towards taking up WBS over Cass due to the cost factor.

Thank you for all your insight, really appreciate it.
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priya08


Also, Coventry doesn't seem too far away from London and some classes are run out of The Shard too; this makes me believe that I may not be totally cut off from potential networking opportunities if I were to pick WBS over Cass.


Although I agree with Duncan's take on Cass vs Warwick, I would say that you are right here. Not only that, but the school does also run regular recruiting fairs in London, which I believe they transport students to.


Thanks for confirming this!

I've heard positive reviews about the career services teams at WBS from its current students as well -- students do travel to London for career fairs and for personal networking opportunities as well, which makes me believe that WBS does not fall 'that' behind Cass in terms of networking (?)

Apologies if my thoughts come across as repetitive -- I'm just voicing them here and trying to see if I find endorsement for the same on this forum as I'm inclined to joining WBS over Cass.

Any additional insights around this will be extremely appreciated. Thank you!

[Edited by priya08 on Mar 16, 2020]

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Also, Coventry doesn't seem too far away from London and some classes are run out of The Shard too; this makes me believe that I may not be totally cut off from potential networking opportunities if I were to pick WBS over Cass.
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Although I agree with Duncan's take on Cass vs Warwick, I would say that you are right here. Not only that, but the school does also run regular recruiting fairs in London, which I believe they transport students to. [/quote]

Thanks for confirming this!

I've heard positive reviews about the career services teams at WBS from its current students as well -- students do travel to London for career fairs and for personal networking opportunities as well, which makes me believe that WBS does not fall 'that' behind Cass in terms of networking (?)

Apologies if my thoughts come across as repetitive -- I'm just voicing them here and trying to see if I find endorsement for the same on this forum as I'm inclined to joining WBS over Cass.

Any additional insights around this will be extremely appreciated. Thank you!
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Duncan

Brand equity is the price premium someone pays to access that brand. The Cass MBA costs more than the Warwick MBA. Cass MBA alumni earn much higher salaries than Warwick's. They also have much faster career progression. I think brand equity is clear for the two full time MBAs.

In terms of awareness, however, certainly Warwick is a better known uni than City University.

[Edited by Duncan on Mar 16, 2020]

Brand equity is the price premium someone pays to access that brand. The Cass MBA costs more than the Warwick MBA. Cass MBA alumni earn much higher salaries than Warwick's. They also have much faster career progression. I think brand equity is clear for the two full time MBAs.

In terms of awareness, however, certainly Warwick is a better known uni than City University.
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priya08

Brand equity is the price premium someone pays to access that brand. The Cass MBA costs more than the Warwick MBA. Cass MBA alumni earn much higher salaries than Warwick's. They also have much faster career progression. I think brand equity is clear for the two full time MBAs.

In terms of awareness, however, certainly Warwick is a better known uni than City University.


I really appreciate you helping me understand the two schools' positions.

At the moment I'm in a dilemma, as I have a good financial reward from Cass and none from Warwick. I come from a country with a weak currency and the cost of attending the program will also highly factor in my decision to choosing the school.

My rough cost analysis tells me that it would cost me the same to attend the school after factoring in my financial reward from Cass and the difference in the cost of living between the two cities (Coventry vs London). Plus, I want to remain in Consulting and move into the S&O group. Does Cass sound like the better option now?

[quote]Brand equity is the price premium someone pays to access that brand. The Cass MBA costs more than the Warwick MBA. Cass MBA alumni earn much higher salaries than Warwick's. They also have much faster career progression. I think brand equity is clear for the two full time MBAs.

In terms of awareness, however, certainly Warwick is a better known uni than City University. [/quote]

I really appreciate you helping me understand the two schools' positions.

At the moment I'm in a dilemma, as I have a good financial reward from Cass and none from Warwick. I come from a country with a weak currency and the cost of attending the program will also highly factor in my decision to choosing the school.

My rough cost analysis tells me that it would cost me the same to attend the school after factoring in my financial reward from Cass and the difference in the cost of living between the two cities (Coventry vs London). Plus, I want to remain in Consulting and move into the S&O group. Does Cass sound like the better option now?
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Duncan

I think it's very close between these schools. Naturally, I think the higher salary of Cass matters, and the City setting matters if your focus is on London. And I prefer the four-term design of the project-centred Cass full-time MBA, while Warwick (like Strathclyde) have three-term MBAs that are locked into the structure of those schools' much larger online MBAs.

However, if your gut is telling you Warwick then you should listen to your gut. These schools have different cultures, very different settings. If you will be happier in a US-style campus than in a city centre then that makes all the difference.

I think it's very close between these schools. Naturally, I think the higher salary of Cass matters, and the City setting matters if your focus is on London. And I prefer the four-term design of the project-centred Cass full-time MBA, while Warwick (like Strathclyde) have three-term MBAs that are locked into the structure of those schools' much larger online MBAs.

However, if your gut is telling you Warwick then you should listen to your gut. These schools have different cultures, very different settings. If you will be happier in a US-style campus than in a city centre then that makes all the difference.
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priya08

I think it's very close between these schools. Naturally, I think the higher salary of Cass matters, and the City setting matters if your focus is on London. And I prefer the four-term design of the project-centred Cass full-time MBA, while Warwick (like Strathclyde) have three-term MBAs that are locked into the structure of those schools' much larger online MBAs.

However, if your gut is telling you Warwick then you should listen to your gut. These schools have different cultures, very different settings. If you will be happier in a US-style campus than in a city centre then that makes all the difference.


Hi Duncan, thank you once again for taking out the time to give me more clarity on the strengths of these two schools. I now definitely have more insights to base my decision on.

To echo your thoughts around the structuring of the courses, I personally prefer Cass's curriculum and there is definitely merit to staying in London. I will dig into alumni profiles some more and network to understand their take on the positioning of the two schools.

One other thing, do you think it is a wise decision to even start the MBA during these unprecedented times? Especially in the UK? Appreciate your views here.

Best regards, Priya.

[quote]I think it's very close between these schools. Naturally, I think the higher salary of Cass matters, and the City setting matters if your focus is on London. And I prefer the four-term design of the project-centred Cass full-time MBA, while Warwick (like Strathclyde) have three-term MBAs that are locked into the structure of those schools' much larger online MBAs.

However, if your gut is telling you Warwick then you should listen to your gut. These schools have different cultures, very different settings. If you will be happier in a US-style campus than in a city centre then that makes all the difference. [/quote]

Hi Duncan, thank you once again for taking out the time to give me more clarity on the strengths of these two schools. I now definitely have more insights to base my decision on.

To echo your thoughts around the structuring of the courses, I personally prefer Cass's curriculum and there is definitely merit to staying in London. I will dig into alumni profiles some more and network to understand their take on the positioning of the two schools.

One other thing, do you think it is a wise decision to even start the MBA during these unprecedented times? Especially in the UK? Appreciate your views here.

Best regards, Priya.
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