Hi everybody, I am new to this site and would like to have your advice on following situation: I am sales professional with more than 8 years experience in the medical device industry (large US corporation) and have a BA from Mannheim, Germany. My last role was sales manager ( Switzerland & Austria) and led a team of 5 people. I felt that I need more managerial and leadership skills to be well equipped for future executive roles in the MedTech industry. I want underline my career with a graduate program and decided to go for a master. Given the fact that I am 36 and have a small family I want to shoot for a 12 -15 month program and no GMAT required. I got accepted by Thunderbird in Phoenix, Arizona and have also an offer from UK Leeds Uni and interviews with Bath, Newcastle, Durham, Liverpool and Aston. I would love to live in the US or UK postgraduate. Currently i am in the US in an English language school. DePaul and Loyola MBA as well as Suffolk Boston and LaSalle in Philly were another options in the US, but they weren’t in the FT rankings. Sorry for my long intro but I really appreciate your thoughts. Thanks in advance
UK MBA vs US Master of Global Management at Thunderbird
Posted Feb 19, 2020 18:42
Posted Feb 19, 2020 18:55
It's a very false economy to save the GMAT fee and exclude yourself from the best schools. Don't rush. Take the GMAT and get into a top UK school. Unless you have US residence, don't bother with the US. Manchester, Imperial, Warwick, Cranfield etc are the schools you should aim at.
Posted Feb 19, 2020 20:09
Hi Duncan, thanks for your input. Regarding the GMAT its not about the fee, it’s about the time to prepare for it, it’s just a hurdle I would like to skip and go fast track as there is some good opportunities who value work experience. As for the the US I don’t have residency, for the moment just the offer from Thunderbird. What do you think of it?
Posted Feb 19, 2020 20:59
You are not trying to get into Stanford, right? You don't need a 780 GMAT. If you completed high school maths then you can take the GMAT with ten or 20 hours and get 550 or 600. That gives schools that require the GMAT the option to admit you. Manchester and Cranfield even have their own tests, which are free.
Thunderbird is a great school but the chance of you getting a work permit for the US is infinitely small. So, don't waste your time.
Thunderbird is a great school but the chance of you getting a work permit for the US is infinitely small. So, don't waste your time.
Posted Feb 20, 2020 14:49
Thanks a lot for your fast response. Totally agree, I should take the GMAT. As most of the MBA aspirants have backgrounds from Finance or Consulting, as a general advice, is an MBA for a salesperson from high-tech/ Med-tech or any other industry (excluded finance and consulting) a booster for an executive career? Or is the MBA more focused on finance and consulting?
Posted Feb 20, 2020 15:37
The MBA can help with almost any career first. I am a marketing guy. In my LBS study group I had a weather forecaster, an aerospace engineer, an operations guy and an investment banker. I dont think it's the case that most MBA students start from finance or consulting roles.
[Edited by Duncan on Feb 20, 2020]
Posted Feb 20, 2020 15:58
Thanks for that Duncan, much appreciate your feedback. Given that there were just Leeds, Durham, Aston, Newcastle, Nottingham and Liverpool, what would be your choice nowadays ? Despite this I will of course take the GMAT and apply for Warwick, Manchester and Cranfield. Thanks again
Posted Feb 20, 2020 19:30
I guess Durham is the highest ranked but use LinkedIn to see which school has the best network on your target market
Posted Feb 20, 2020 19:31
I certainly would not consider Liverpool.
Posted Feb 20, 2020 19:42
Thanks for your valuable insights. Liverpool out :)
Greetings from Denver
Greetings from Denver
Posted Mar 03, 2020 05:12
Hi Duncan, I wanted to give a short update about my MBA journey: Unconditional offers from
1. Full-time Master of global management at Thunderbird- PHX / full scholarship (70k)
2. Full-time MBA Durham University/ partly scholarship
3. Full- time MBA Aston/ partly scholarship
4. Full- time MBA University of Leeds/ full scholarship
Then I have a conditional offer from Cranfield for the full time MBA. I am really indecisive what to do, I will turn 36 soon, I also considered applying for Cambridge, but the time for preparing for GMAT and ielts/ TOEFL is too short, as I just have the PTE. Would you rather wait one more year and try getting inside Cambridge or go with one of the other program to not lose one year? I am a sales professional/ manager in the med-tech industry and plan to reach senior level management. Sorry for the long text, but any advice is highly appreciated.
1. Full-time Master of global management at Thunderbird- PHX / full scholarship (70k)
2. Full-time MBA Durham University/ partly scholarship
3. Full- time MBA Aston/ partly scholarship
4. Full- time MBA University of Leeds/ full scholarship
Then I have a conditional offer from Cranfield for the full time MBA. I am really indecisive what to do, I will turn 36 soon, I also considered applying for Cambridge, but the time for preparing for GMAT and ielts/ TOEFL is too short, as I just have the PTE. Would you rather wait one more year and try getting inside Cambridge or go with one of the other program to not lose one year? I am a sales professional/ manager in the med-tech industry and plan to reach senior level management. Sorry for the long text, but any advice is highly appreciated.
Posted Mar 03, 2020 12:02
Stop thinking about Thunderbird.
Ignore the scholarship. It's like buying a 50ml shampoo for £1 because it's cheaper than 200ml for £1.20.
Send your CV to Cambridge now, and ask them for an assessment. Ask what GMAT you might reasonably need given your unusual and valuable background.
Cranfield and Durham are the best choices in your hand. Use LinkedIn to see which has the best network. If you can, visit classes and smell the differences. They are sooooo different, there is no way you can be indifferent between the very different academics and students.
Ignore the scholarship. It's like buying a 50ml shampoo for £1 because it's cheaper than 200ml for £1.20.
Send your CV to Cambridge now, and ask them for an assessment. Ask what GMAT you might reasonably need given your unusual and valuable background.
Cranfield and Durham are the best choices in your hand. Use LinkedIn to see which has the best network. If you can, visit classes and smell the differences. They are sooooo different, there is no way you can be indifferent between the very different academics and students.
Posted Mar 03, 2020 12:04
I have no idea what prep you think it required for the GMAT. Ten or 20 hours should be enough for you to get 600 or 650.
Posted Mar 03, 2020 14:59
Thank you for the great advice, I am very grateful for your feedback and have already contacted JBS. About Cranfield and Durham I did my research and found that Cranfield has a better reputation for its MBA whereas Durham tend to be more academic but ranked better. But will focus on JBS now, in case of no admission I will prioritize Cranfield then Durham. Thanks again Duncan
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