Seeking advice for the right Msc


Hi Everyone,

I am from India.

I have over 5 years of experience in Sales and Operations. I am a regular reader of this blog and found it to be a valuable source of information. Thank you in advance for any advice you can provide.



I have received an admission offer for MSc in Supply Chain Management from several universities, including Cranfield, Warwick, Sheffield, Newcastle, Liverpool, and Kent. Due to personal reasons and the high international fees, I turned down offers from Cranfield and Sheffield. However, I found that almost all the students in the postgraduate programs of these universities are international students, with many from India. I also spoke with a few students from these universities, and the responses were mixed. Some from Cranfield said that the university is good, but the location is isolated, and the university does not make much effort to help students find a job. Some students from Sheffield suggested looking into other universities, like Durham or Warwick, or enrolling in programs from low-ranked Universities like Sheffield Hallam etc, with placement years to improve job prospects.



Now, I am considering Newcastle, Warwick, and Kent. Newcastle and Kent have similar fee structures, while Warwick's fees are around 10,000 pounds more than the other two. All of the supply chain programs at these universities are CIPS and CILT recognized, and their business schools are triple-accredited. However, despite being a triple-accredited school, Kent is ranked 50th in the UK and 375th in QS rankings. Newcastle is triple-accredited and ranked 36th in the UK, and 122nd in QS rankings BUT Guardian put it in 63rd in the UK rankings, and their business school has not been ranked anywhere. Warwick, on the other hand, is a top 10 university in the UK and is ranked 64th in QS rankings.



The modules offered at Newcastle and Kent are intriguing, but I am confused about which to take. My goals are to work in the UK for a few years in a strong logistics and supply chain business and eventually start my own business in the long term.



I’m 29 years old now, and I honestly don’t want to delay my studies any longer. I would appreciate any advice on which university and program to choose. Thank you in advance for your help.

[Edited by MrOneseventy on Mar 05, 2023]

Hi Everyone,<br><br>I am from India.<br>
I have over 5 years of experience in Sales and Operations. I am a regular reader of this blog and found it to be a valuable source of information. Thank you in advance for any advice you can provide. <br>
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I have received an admission offer for MSc in Supply Chain Management from several universities, including Cranfield, Warwick, Sheffield, Newcastle, Liverpool, and Kent. Due to personal reasons and the high international fees, I turned down offers from Cranfield and Sheffield. However, I found that almost all the students in the postgraduate programs of these universities are international students, with many from India. I also spoke with a few students from these universities, and the responses were mixed. Some from Cranfield said that the university is good, but the location is isolated, and the university does not make much effort to help students find a job. Some students from Sheffield suggested looking into other universities, like Durham or Warwick, or enrolling in programs from low-ranked Universities like Sheffield Hallam etc, with placement years to improve job prospects.<br>
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Now, I am considering Newcastle, Warwick, and Kent. Newcastle and Kent have similar fee structures, while Warwick's fees are around 10,000 pounds more than the other two. All of the supply chain programs at these universities are CIPS and CILT recognized, and their business schools are triple-accredited. However, despite being a triple-accredited school, Kent is ranked 50th in the UK and 375th in QS rankings. Newcastle is triple-accredited and ranked 36th in the UK, and 122nd in QS rankings BUT Guardian put it in 63rd in the UK rankings, and their business school has not been ranked anywhere. Warwick, on the other hand, is a top 10 university in the UK and is ranked 64th in QS rankings.<br>
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The modules offered at Newcastle and Kent are intriguing, but I am confused about which to take. My goals are to work in the UK for a few years in a strong logistics and supply chain business and eventually start my own business in the long term.<br>
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I’m 29 years old now, and I honestly don’t want to delay my studies any longer. I would appreciate any advice on which university and program to choose. Thank you in advance for your help.
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No UK university can match the placement success of Indian business schools. As a result, Indian students are often dissatisfied. So, set expectations. 

University-wide rankings reflect a wide range of variables,  many of which won't matter to you. Career services and placement matter, which is why WMG is a risky option. Search the board to understand why. 

No UK university can match the placement success of Indian business schools. As a result, Indian students are often dissatisfied. So, set expectations.&nbsp;<br><br>University-wide rankings reflect a wide range of variables,&nbsp; many of which won't matter to you. Career services and placement matter, which is why WMG is a risky option. Search the board to understand why.&nbsp;<br><br>
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Thank you, Duncan, for the response. So, if I'm setting Warwick aside, I will have Newcastle, Liverpool, and Kent as options. I spoke to a student from Warwick, and he said the WMG program is not for everyone, as they have many self-study weeks, and people might think they have paid this hefty fee for online interaction. The student who told me is currently studying there, and he said he's happy with the program, but there are many who are not. And I have read articles here about their career service, so I will probably rule them out.

Now, Newcastle, City is good and cheap, a well-known university, and has good modules, but I haven't seen their business school ranked anywhere. But why did The Guardian place Newcastle in 63rd position in the UK rankings? (I mean, I have seen relatively low-ranked universities beating Newcastle on it.)

Kent's MSc is in the top 50 in the world, good modules but its cohort is either freshers or students with limited experience. However, they have this one-year industrial placement, so if we get to work before graduation, we can complete at least 10 months of practical paid work. Isn't a triple-accredited university good? I mean, I haven't seen any article or post here regardingKent.


Liverpool is almost the same as Newcastle Uni. I am leaning towards Newcastle but confused at the same time if a one-year work experience program with Kent is worth it or not.

What would you say is a safe bet?


<div><br></div><div>Thank you, Duncan, for the response. So, if I'm setting Warwick aside, I will have Newcastle, Liverpool, and Kent as options. I spoke to a student from Warwick, and he said the WMG program is not for everyone, as they have many self-study weeks, and people might think they have paid this hefty fee for online interaction. The student who told me is currently studying there, and he said he's happy with the program, but there are many who are not. And I have read articles here about their career service, so I will probably rule them out.</div><br><br><div>Now, Newcastle, City is good and cheap, a well-known university, and has good modules, but I haven't seen their business school ranked anywhere. But why did The Guardian place Newcastle in 63rd position in the UK rankings? (I mean, I have seen relatively low-ranked universities beating Newcastle on it.)</div><br><br><div>Kent's MSc is in the top 50 in the world, good modules but its cohort is either freshers or students with limited experience. However, they have this one-year industrial placement, so if we get to work before graduation, we can complete at least 10 months of practical paid work. Isn't a triple-accredited university good? I mean, I haven't seen any article or post here regarding</div><div>Kent.
</div><br><br><div>Liverpool is almost the same as Newcastle Uni. I am leaning towards Newcastle but confused at the same time if a one-year work experience program with Kent is worth it or not.</div><br><br><div>What would you say is a safe bet?
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Duncan

Newcastle is the best established of these business schools: it's the one with the best career services and certainly the one with the best alumni organisation. Durham is a good suggestion, and perhaps you also looked at Loughborough and Aston?  

Newcastle is the best established of these business schools: it's the one with the best career services and certainly the one with the best alumni organisation. Durham is a good suggestion, and perhaps you also looked at Loughborough and Aston?&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Thank you for the response, Duncan.


I looked at Durham; unfortunately, I did not apply since I had a 0.5 band less than the required IELTS score, and I was financially tight to retake the IELTS. So, I decided to apply with my current score wherever applicable, and maybe if I ever plan to do an MBA, I will consider Durham. Loughborough does not offer an MSc in Supply Chain, and although Aston University is good, I was not intrigued by their modules.

Duncan, I have read in some posts that you are an alumnus of Newcastle University. I am interested in hearing your opinion on the school and its postgraduate programs. Would you be willing to share your feedback? Thank you.


<div>Thank you for the response, Duncan.<br></div><br><br><div>I looked at Durham; unfortunately, I did not apply since I had a 0.5 band less than the required IELTS score, and I was financially tight to retake the IELTS. So, I decided to apply with my current score wherever applicable, and maybe if I ever plan to do an MBA, I will consider Durham. Loughborough does not offer an MSc in Supply Chain, and although Aston University is good, I was not intrigued by their modules.</div><br><br><div>Duncan, I have read in some posts that you are an alumnus of Newcastle University. I am interested in hearing your opinion on the school and its postgraduate programs. Would you be willing to share your feedback? Thank you.
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Duncan

Oh Loughborough closed it in 2021 or 2022 I guess!


Oh Loughborough closed it in 2021 or 2022 I guess!<br><br><br>
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"Some from Cranfield said that the university is good, but the location is isolated, and the university does not make much effort to help students find a job"
is that so? as I researched Cranfield has the best employability rate for Masters in Supply chain courses.




<div><br></div><div>"Some from Cranfield said that the university is good, but the location is isolated, and the university does not make much effort to help students find a job"</div><br>is that so? as I researched Cranfield has the best employability rate for Masters in Supply chain courses.<br><br><div><br><br></div><div>
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"Some from Cranfield said that the university is good, but the location is isolated, and the university does not make much effort to help students find a job"
is that so? as I researched Cranfield has the best employability rate for Masters in Supply chain courses.









Cranfield undoubtedly has the best employability. I was informed that there would be career fairs and other related activities, but it's important to take full advantage of them to reap the benefits. The location is isolated, which may be challenging for international students who also want to work part-time jobs. Nonetheless, I did not accept their offer due to the increased fees of 30K, which is beyond my budget. Nevertheless, I still believe it's one of the best options available.

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<div><br></div><div>"Some from Cranfield said that the university is good, but the location is isolated, and the university does not make much effort to help students find a job"</div><br>is that so? as I researched Cranfield has the best employability rate for Masters in Supply chain courses.<br><br><div><br><br></div><div>
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</div><div>Cranfield undoubtedly has the best employability. I was informed that there would be career fairs and other related activities, but it's important to take full advantage of them to reap the benefits. The location is isolated, which may be challenging for international students who also want to work part-time jobs. Nonetheless, I did not accept their offer due to the increased fees of 30K, which is beyond my budget. Nevertheless, I still believe it's one of the best options available.
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Duncan

Cranfield is still closest to London in travel times.

Cranfield is still closest to London in travel times.
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