Plz help me In making a decision for MSc course in UK


shefali

Hi All,
please help me ...
I have received an admit from both Lancaster as well as manchester.
Lancaster-Msc-ITMOC(Information technology,Mnagement and organizational change)
Manchester-Msc-Information systems:Buisness-IT
I have 2 yrs of work experience in IT industry.
Kindly help me in selecting the right course in terms of Jobs as well as a safe place to live.
(Job is very imp for me as I am funding my education through loan..)
Thanks

Hi All,
please help me ...
I have received an admit from both Lancaster as well as manchester.
Lancaster-Msc-ITMOC(Information technology,Mnagement and organizational change)
Manchester-Msc-Information systems:Buisness-IT
I have 2 yrs of work experience in IT industry.
Kindly help me in selecting the right course in terms of Jobs as well as a safe place to live.
(Job is very imp for me as I am funding my education through loan..)
Thanks
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shefali

Hey is there nobody....who can possibly throw some light on this......????

Hey is there nobody....who can possibly throw some light on this......????
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JamieO

Considering you are aiming for an MSc, the branding is not quite as important as an MBA. Both are good universities in the UK, and you should choose depending on the department quality assessment.

If you look at the Times Uni ranking you'll see that in terms of academic quality and research, Manchester's Computing department does better. Overall though the ranking is about the same for both, and I doubt you would see much difference either way once you get there.

Considering you are aiming for an MSc, the branding is not quite as important as an MBA. Both are good universities in the UK, and you should choose depending on the department quality assessment.

If you look at the Times Uni ranking you'll see that in terms of academic quality and research, Manchester's Computing department does better. Overall though the ranking is about the same for both, and I doubt you would see much difference either way once you get there.
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JamieO

Forgot the safety issue - both cities are about the same, although in either place, your level of safety will depend on your budget (where you can afford to live). Cost-wise manchester may be slightly more expensive.

Forgot the safety issue - both cities are about the same, although in either place, your level of safety will depend on your budget (where you can afford to live). Cost-wise manchester may be slightly more expensive.
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shefali

Thanks JamieO....
Can You also tell me about the jobs after that?

Thanks JamieO....
Can You also tell me about the jobs after that?
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JamieO

That's a tough one, and I'm not sure I can answer with any degree of reliability. An MSc is not an MBA, so you may not get the benefit of recruiters targeting MBA graduates specifically. It also depends on how much the two universities really care about bringing corporates in to recruit.

You should contact both programmes and career services and see how open and helpful they are. These initial answers will give you an idea of how you will be treated when you are a student there and exactly what help they will provide, especially to non-EU students.

sorry i can't be more helpful!

That's a tough one, and I'm not sure I can answer with any degree of reliability. An MSc is not an MBA, so you may not get the benefit of recruiters targeting MBA graduates specifically. It also depends on how much the two universities really care about bringing corporates in to recruit.

You should contact both programmes and career services and see how open and helpful they are. These initial answers will give you an idea of how you will be treated when you are a student there and exactly what help they will provide, especially to non-EU students.

sorry i can't be more helpful!
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shefali

Thanks a lot JamieO :)

Thanks a lot JamieO :)
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Shefali,
The catch here is, do you have 2 years relevant work experience. MBA candidates should have managerial or supervisory work experience to be considered as possessing work experience. Anyone who is not in that position, is equivalent to nil-experienced. Plus even if you do get admission to an MBA, you will find it extremely difficult to catch up with the course since they assume that you are familiar with the terms. You merely receive a guidence to be a manager where as in MSc, you are taught. Got the difference?

Shefali,
The catch here is, do you have 2 years relevant work experience. MBA candidates should have managerial or supervisory work experience to be considered as possessing work experience. Anyone who is not in that position, is equivalent to nil-experienced. Plus even if you do get admission to an MBA, you will find it extremely difficult to catch up with the course since they assume that you are familiar with the terms. You merely receive a guidence to be a manager where as in MSc, you are taught. Got the difference?
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JamieO

Anyone who is not in that position, is equivalent to nil-experienced.


I don't know where you got that from. I have talked to quite a number of schools and have never heard that. In fact, many european schools are particularly open to specialists with a number of years experience (lawyers, doctors, finance specialists etc) regardless of managerial experience.

Plus even if you do get admission to an MBA, you will find it extremely difficult to catch up with the course since they assume that you are familiar with the terms.


you are somehow saying that by managing another person, that you somehow become a completely different type of human, able to work on a different level? if you are particularly weak in finance then yes it could be difficult to catch up, but not if you lack line management skills. you just won't be judged the same by employers after the MBA.

<blockquote> Anyone who is not in that position, is equivalent to nil-experienced. </blockquote>

I don't know where you got that from. I have talked to quite a number of schools and have never heard that. In fact, many european schools are particularly open to specialists with a number of years experience (lawyers, doctors, finance specialists etc) regardless of managerial experience.

<blockquote> Plus even if you do get admission to an MBA, you will find it extremely difficult to catch up with the course since they assume that you are familiar with the terms. </blockquote>

you are somehow saying that by managing another person, that you somehow become a completely different type of human, able to work on a different level? if you are particularly weak in finance then yes it could be difficult to catch up, but not if you lack line management skills. you just won't be judged the same by employers after the MBA.
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aragorn123

Hi Shefali,

I hv gone through d same dilemma between Lancaster(ITMOC/EBIN), Warwick(ISM) & Manchester.

These courses r run by respective Business schools. ITMOC has an edge over Manchester program, as it includes SAP and partnership wid corporates like - Accenture!

Hi Shefali,

I hv gone through d same dilemma between Lancaster(ITMOC/EBIN), Warwick(ISM) & Manchester.

These courses r run by respective Business schools. ITMOC has an edge over Manchester program, as it includes SAP and partnership wid corporates like - Accenture!
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shefali

Hi aragorn123,
Have you made a decision...???
I have read in the websites that student of ITMOC course cannot take a part time job as they do not have time for it...so was looking forward to Manchester so that I can support my education through a job.
Have you worked on SAP before?
I have 2 yrs of IT exp in Microsoft tecnology(.net).

Hi aragorn123,
Have you made a decision...???
I have read in the websites that student of ITMOC course cannot take a part time job as they do not have time for it...so was looking forward to Manchester so that I can support my education through a job.
Have you worked on SAP before?
I have 2 yrs of IT exp in Microsoft tecnology(.net).
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aragorn123

@Shefali,
Yes...I am going for Warwick! I hvn't worked on SAP before!
I hv heard frm many existing students, tht its difficult to get part-time jobs in UK at d moment! However it ll be easier to find part-time jobs in Manchester compared to Lancaster, which is a small town!

@Shefali,
Yes...I am going for Warwick! I hvn't worked on SAP before!
I hv heard frm many existing students, tht its difficult to get part-time jobs in UK at d moment! However it ll be easier to find part-time jobs in Manchester compared to Lancaster, which is a small town!
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Hi all,

I am from India(Mumbai) and am planning to have my post graduation done from UK.I need some advice for the same.

I am having a work experience of 4 yrs and am planning to enhance my management skills in Information systems noy leaving
technical edge completely.

Can anyone please provide me with your views whether LSE(ADMIS),LUMS (ITMOC) have an edge over applying for MBA
in UK ?

I am reading although very good feedback about these courses....but worried about funding in these courses.I will be
entirely self-funding my eductaion through a study loan.....so am really concerned about job prospects after these
courses.

It would be really helpful if somebody can provide me an insight.....

If you can suggest me any other courses will also be really helpful to me...

Thanking in advance,
Sunny

Hi all,

I am from India(Mumbai) and am planning to have my post graduation done from UK.I need some advice for the same.

I am having a work experience of 4 yrs and am planning to enhance my management skills in Information systems noy leaving
technical edge completely.

Can anyone please provide me with your views whether LSE(ADMIS),LUMS (ITMOC) have an edge over applying for MBA
in UK ?

I am reading although very good feedback about these courses....but worried about funding in these courses.I will be
entirely self-funding my eductaion through a study loan.....so am really concerned about job prospects after these
courses.

It would be really helpful if somebody can provide me an insight.....

If you can suggest me any other courses will also be really helpful to me...

Thanking in advance,
Sunny

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aragorn123

Hi Sunny,

LSE-ADMIS is the best available information systems management course in UK (if not in the world)! Apart frm that, LSE has a great brand-name across the Globe! So, if u get through it...do not look for any other option!
LSE also offers lot of scholarships through GSS (Graduate Support Scheme). Apply early for the financial aid!

My Second Preference will be MSISM from Warwick Business School. It is a well designed programme.

In my personal opinion, MSc-EBIN at Lancaster is better than MSc-ITMOC. Lancaster is very friendly university with excellent teaching and research! But it's weak when it comes to placements. So, MSc-EBIN & ITMOC will be the third option!

Hi Sunny,

LSE-ADMIS is the best available information systems management course in UK (if not in the world)! Apart frm that, LSE has a great brand-name across the Globe! So, if u get through it...do not look for any other option!
LSE also offers lot of scholarships through GSS (Graduate Support Scheme). Apply early for the financial aid!

My Second Preference will be MSISM from Warwick Business School. It is a well designed programme.

In my personal opinion, MSc-EBIN at Lancaster is better than MSc-ITMOC. Lancaster is very friendly university with excellent teaching and research! But it's weak when it comes to placements. So, MSc-EBIN & ITMOC will be the third option!
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Thanks a ton Aragorn123.... tht was indeed very helpful advise....
I will work out soon to complete on the formalities of admission....

If you dont mind..can you share more abt yourself...which course are you into ?

Thanks a ton Aragorn123.... tht was indeed very helpful advise....
I will work out soon to complete on the formalities of admission....

If you dont mind..can you share more abt yourself...which course are you into ?
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aragorn123

I hv an offer frm Warwick. Waiting for LSE decision. And Just applied to Judge business School! :)

I hv an offer frm Warwick. Waiting for LSE decision. And Just applied to Judge business School! :)
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heyy aragorn123,

Thats great...It seems you have nothing to loose...Congratulations mate...and thanks for the advise. :-)

heyy aragorn123,

Thats great...It seems you have nothing to loose...Congratulations mate...and thanks for the advise. :-)

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aragorn123

Thanks Sunny!
Do update us on ur progress!
Best of luck for ur applications! :)

Thanks Sunny!
Do update us on ur progress!
Best of luck for ur applications! :)
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Application...... :-(
Not started at all and am confused on where to start from :-(
I am first searching for a consultant to guide me thru application process...who can also help me with some scholarship applications and other important things....

I also need to prepare for IELTS :-(
Very confused on how and what to do .....

Can you suggest me a appropriate time..till when i shd apply if I need to get into Sept 2010 ?

I guess March\April ....

If you can help me with some tips it will be really great for me...

Rgds,
Sunny

Application...... :-(
Not started at all and am confused on where to start from :-(
I am first searching for a consultant to guide me thru application process...who can also help me with some scholarship applications and other important things....

I also need to prepare for IELTS :-(
Very confused on how and what to do .....

Can you suggest me a appropriate time..till when i shd apply if I need to get into Sept 2010 ?

I guess March\April ....

If you can help me with some tips it will be really great for me...

Rgds,
Sunny
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ralph

I think both those programs, at LUMS and LSE are on a rolling basis, meaning that there is no set deadline... But I would guess that you'd want to apply sooner rather than later if you want to start this year.

I think both those programs, at LUMS and LSE are on a rolling basis, meaning that there is no set deadline... But I would guess that you'd want to apply sooner rather than later if you want to start this year.
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