WashU-Olin EMBA, Florida-Warrington Online, iMBA, or “other”?


Hello All:

I’m a full time minister in the Methodist church with 18 years of experience of leading churches (from 80 to 2300 in membership) including budgeting and outreach, marketing, Human Resources management, visioning, and the expected weekly work of planning worship, preaching, teaching, and pastoral care. I am also a Veteran having served as a Commissioned Officer and Chaplain in the USAF then Navy (Marines) Reserves for nine years.

In the last several years, I’ve become more involved with other non-profits such as The Boys & Girls Club and have found great joy in helping to both raise monetary funds for them while increasing hands-on volunteer hours. Collaboration with for profits to show them how investments in these non-profits and the lives they reach helps not only the community, but businesses b/c the child with dreams and tools to achieve them becomes the healthy, skilled, dedicated employee and fellow business owner is a passion of mine. In order to realize better results and sharpen / acquire skills not learned (or not learned with great depth) in undergrad (BA-English, 3.33 GPA; I did take Statistics, Algebra, and Calculus with a B+ average) or Grad School for Theology / Church Leadership (MDIV-Vanderbilt University, Full Scholarship, 3.5 GPA), I’ve applied to MBA programs.

I will continue to work as a pastor full-time, but the church is in full support of me pursuing an MBA per the gift of time (no monetary help). I’m in KY with a young son near St Louis, so I applied to and was accepted into WashU-Olin’s EMBA. They offered a $20,000 scholarship which leaves $110,000 to finance. UF-Warrington also accepted me into their online program ($58,000). Both of those programs and Illinois’ iMBA Program (I’ve not completed that application yet) waived the GMAT requirement based on my other degrees, leadership / military experience.

My question: Do any of those three programs stand out as “best” per what you know about them and my background? I do plan on staying with nonprofits for the most part, yet I do want the MBA over an MPA curriculum for the flexibility and overall acceptance as a better degree per applications in many industries. I’d focus on management / Human Resources and / or entrepreneurial education. I’ve also considered Vanderbilt’s EMBA, Auburn-Harbert online, and Notre Dame’s EMBA. One of my recommenders graduated from Kellogg’s (NW) on-campus MBA Program and encouraged me to apply to their EMBA. Yet it too is expensive if I didn’t get a scholarship with Evanston a plane ticket expense per getting there to add to the cost (StL; WashU is only 3 hrs away and my son is nearby; Vandy is an hour away; Florida seems like a great online option at a good value; iMBA is even cheaper of course).

I very much appreciate any input including other school’s MBA’s rec’s and thoughts re the ones I’ve listed. And thanks for reading my lengthy post.

[Edited by RisingSons on Apr 17, 2019]

Hello All:

I’m a full time minister in the Methodist church with 18 years of experience of leading churches (from 80 to 2300 in membership) including budgeting and outreach, marketing, Human Resources management, visioning, and the expected weekly work of planning worship, preaching, teaching, and pastoral care. I am also a Veteran having served as a Commissioned Officer and Chaplain in the USAF then Navy (Marines) Reserves for nine years.

In the last several years, I’ve become more involved with other non-profits such as The Boys & Girls Club and have found great joy in helping to both raise monetary funds for them while increasing hands-on volunteer hours. Collaboration with for profits to show them how investments in these non-profits and the lives they reach helps not only the community, but businesses b/c the child with dreams and tools to achieve them becomes the healthy, skilled, dedicated employee and fellow business owner is a passion of mine. In order to realize better results and sharpen / acquire skills not learned (or not learned with great depth) in undergrad (BA-English, 3.33 GPA; I did take Statistics, Algebra, and Calculus with a B+ average) or Grad School for Theology / Church Leadership (MDIV-Vanderbilt University, Full Scholarship, 3.5 GPA), I’ve applied to MBA programs.

I will continue to work as a pastor full-time, but the church is in full support of me pursuing an MBA per the gift of time (no monetary help). I’m in KY with a young son near St Louis, so I applied to and was accepted into WashU-Olin’s EMBA. They offered a $20,000 scholarship which leaves $110,000 to finance. UF-Warrington also accepted me into their online program ($58,000). Both of those programs and Illinois’ iMBA Program (I’ve not completed that application yet) waived the GMAT requirement based on my other degrees, leadership / military experience.

My question: Do any of those three programs stand out as “best” per what you know about them and my background? I do plan on staying with nonprofits for the most part, yet I do want the MBA over an MPA curriculum for the flexibility and overall acceptance as a better degree per applications in many industries. I’d focus on management / Human Resources and / or entrepreneurial education. I’ve also considered Vanderbilt’s EMBA, Auburn-Harbert online, and Notre Dame’s EMBA. One of my recommenders graduated from Kellogg’s (NW) on-campus MBA Program and encouraged me to apply to their EMBA. Yet it too is expensive if I didn’t get a scholarship with Evanston a plane ticket expense per getting there to add to the cost (StL; WashU is only 3 hrs away and my son is nearby; Vandy is an hour away; Florida seems like a great online option at a good value; iMBA is even cheaper of course).

I very much appreciate any input including other school’s MBA’s rec’s and thoughts re the ones I’ve listed. And thanks for reading my lengthy post.
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Duncan
What are your goals? If you are not targeting traditional MBA employers, a premium MBA could be overkill.

Did you consider Notre Dame's masters in nonprofit management?
What are your goals? If you are not targeting traditional MBA employers, a premium MBA could be overkill.

Did you consider Notre Dame's masters in nonprofit management?
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What are your goals? If you are not targeting traditional MBA employers, a premium MBA could be overkill.

Did you consider Notre Dame's masters in nonprofit management?


Thanks for your reply and the question, Duncan. Yes, one considered ND’s Masters in NP Management. Yet, because I may want to move outside a church setting and work for and with businesses where at least knowing / having more quantitative and fiscal planning skills would be helpful - though I’d still be aiming to do social good, multiple conversations with business owners in the church and other friends have pointed me to an MBA as a better investment - as long as I pick a good fit. In addition, I’m aiming to complete my MA in Mental Health Counseling to equip me to offer better care for clients. Having an MBA with focus on entrepreneurial courses seems wise to aid me in being a bit of a hybrid as a pastor aiming to help nonprofits - neighbors in need, but who also may be running a private practice as a counselor. With ND’s Nonprofit Management Masters as well as with UNC’s MPA (I spoke with admissions officers from both schools at length), my concern is I’d be spending money on many courses that aren’t too different from the training I’ve already received - or on training more focused on gov’t jobs, with the total cost being the same or close to that of an MBA. Having worked at Edward Jones during a break from ministry a few years ago per a divorce, I lean towards the MBA for some personal interests too.

Anyway, I’m still discerning a best path. Yours is a good and helpful question, Duncan. Per the MBA Programs I listed, I am leaning towards Florida as it seems to be a proven, accessible per my schedule, excellent alumni base, and not too expensive choice. I’d truly wanted to go to Olin and had several long talks with them about my goals, yet $110,000 seems a bit steep for me at this point of my life. Any other programs you’d consider and/or thoughts on the three above?

Thanks again.
[quote]What are your goals? If you are not targeting traditional MBA employers, a premium MBA could be overkill.

Did you consider Notre Dame's masters in nonprofit management? [/quote]

Thanks for your reply and the question, Duncan. Yes, one considered ND’s Masters in NP Management. Yet, because I may want to move outside a church setting and work for and with businesses where at least knowing / having more quantitative and fiscal planning skills would be helpful - though I’d still be aiming to do social good, multiple conversations with business owners in the church and other friends have pointed me to an MBA as a better investment - as long as I pick a good fit. In addition, I’m aiming to complete my MA in Mental Health Counseling to equip me to offer better care for clients. Having an MBA with focus on entrepreneurial courses seems wise to aid me in being a bit of a hybrid as a pastor aiming to help nonprofits - neighbors in need, but who also may be running a private practice as a counselor. With ND’s Nonprofit Management Masters as well as with UNC’s MPA (I spoke with admissions officers from both schools at length), my concern is I’d be spending money on many courses that aren’t too different from the training I’ve already received - or on training more focused on gov’t jobs, with the total cost being the same or close to that of an MBA. Having worked at Edward Jones during a break from ministry a few years ago per a divorce, I lean towards the MBA for some personal interests too.

Anyway, I’m still discerning a best path. Yours is a good and helpful question, Duncan. Per the MBA Programs I listed, I am leaning towards Florida as it seems to be a proven, accessible per my schedule, excellent alumni base, and not too expensive choice. I’d truly wanted to go to Olin and had several long talks with them about my goals, yet $110,000 seems a bit steep for me at this point of my life. Any other programs you’d consider and/or thoughts on the three above?

Thanks again.
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George Pat...
Maybe check out Indiana as well, the price should be close to the florida one
Maybe check out Indiana as well, the price should be close to the florida one
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Maybe check out Indiana as well, the price should be close to the florida one


That’s an excellent MBA. They aren’t as willing to waive the GMAT requirement from what I’ve seen, but I’ll check into their program. Thanks, George
[quote]Maybe check out Indiana as well, the price should be close to the florida one[/quote]

That’s an excellent MBA. They aren’t as willing to waive the GMAT requirement from what I’ve seen, but I’ll check into their program. Thanks, George
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