MBA vs Executive Master


Andy_B

I am looking through different Schools profiles and figured out following distance courses from accredited business schools:
1) Illinois
2) U of London QMUL, their New global MBA,
3) EMIB from ESCP. This program is distance and from tripple acredited School. But they say this is internal School degreee and is not recognized by any of Europen countries Ministry of Education. So I wonder, will it have any impact on my ability to find a job ones I graduate.

all these programs are launched in 2016-17, so I Wonder if there is anyone who is studying or heard any feedback about the programs.

I am looking through different Schools profiles and figured out following distance courses from accredited business schools:
1) Illinois
2) U of London QMUL, their New global MBA,
3) EMIB from ESCP. This program is distance and from tripple acredited School. But they say this is internal School degreee and is not recognized by any of Europen countries Ministry of Education. So I wonder, will it have any impact on my ability to find a job ones I graduate.

all these programs are launched in 2016-17, so I Wonder if there is anyone who is studying or heard any feedback about the programs.
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mba hipste...

That QMUL / UoL MBA doesn't launch until 2017 so you won't find anybody who has taken that program yet.

That QMUL / UoL MBA doesn't launch until 2017 so you won't find anybody who has taken that program yet.
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Andy_B

That QMUL / UoL MBA doesn't launch until 2017 so you won't find anybody who has taken that program yet.

But what is interesting: maybe someone from Spain can tell us a bit about their diplomas vs executive masters. I wonder if there might be any concequences if you get a degree issued by business school only and not "recognized" by goverment? Lets say, ESCP, as far as I understand their EMIB is not registered neither in French nor in Spainish Ministry of Education. What does it mean for my employability if I get such diploma? I had a call and they said: "you can still call yourself a master and put it in your CV". So, whats the difference then? I guess if they write it on their website - that might have some difference for some employers\emproyee or goverment. Any ideas about it?
I checked how its going with it in other countries:
Nederlands and Germany: they issue Executive MSc - this means that officially its MSc.
Belgium: they issue Executive master - this is not recognized as "master degree" by Belgium Ministry of Education
Norway and Switzerland: executive master\MAS is recognized by Ministry of Education but not as MSc, they might have a special rank for it.

[Edited by Andy_B on Dec 05, 2016]

[quote]That QMUL / UoL MBA doesn't launch until 2017 so you won't find anybody who has taken that program yet.[/quote]
But what is interesting: maybe someone from Spain can tell us a bit about their diplomas vs executive masters. I wonder if there might be any concequences if you get a degree issued by business school only and not "recognized" by goverment? Lets say, ESCP, as far as I understand their EMIB is not registered neither in French nor in Spainish Ministry of Education. What does it mean for my employability if I get such diploma? I had a call and they said: "you can still call yourself a master and put it in your CV". So, whats the difference then? I guess if they write it on their website - that might have some difference for some employers\emproyee or goverment. Any ideas about it?
I checked how its going with it in other countries:
Nederlands and Germany: they issue Executive MSc - this means that officially its MSc.
Belgium: they issue Executive master - this is not recognized as "master degree" by Belgium Ministry of Education
Norway and Switzerland: executive master\MAS is recognized by Ministry of Education but not as MSc, they might have a special rank for it.
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Duncan

I don't think this is a real problem. ESCP is the world's oldest business school and is clearly one of the best. It doesn't need to be incorporated as a university in Spain to issue French degrees. Perhaps there are jobs in the Spanish state which require Spanish degrees, but clearly ESCP has been very successful in Spain for decades while issuing French degrees to its non-MIM students. For traditional MBA employers, it certainly does matter that degrees some from real institutions, but an employer that prefers a no-name Spanish degree to an ESCP specialised masters does not deserve to hire talent.

I don't think this is a real problem. ESCP is the world's oldest business school and is clearly one of the best. It doesn't need to be incorporated as a university in Spain to issue French degrees. Perhaps there are jobs in the Spanish state which require Spanish degrees, but clearly ESCP has been very successful in Spain for decades while issuing French degrees to its non-MIM students. For traditional MBA employers, it certainly does matter that degrees some from real institutions, but an employer that prefers a no-name Spanish degree to an ESCP specialised masters does not deserve to hire talent.
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Andy_B

I don't think this is a real problem. ESCP is the world's oldest business school and is clearly one of the best. It doesn't need to be incorporated as a university in Spain to issue French degrees. .

Duncan, Your answer is very valuable. I read in other topics that you ranked executive masters from top French Ecoles very high and was even concidering one of those for yourself.
What would you say about QMUL global MBA, compared to EMIB and iMBA Illinois?
Main goal is Scandinavian and Swiss (Zurich) big international IT and Financial companies job markets. Like UBS, Credit Suisse, IBM, Microsoft. How valuable these institutions are there?
I did some linkedin research for Zurich and Scandinavia, there are more or less similar amount of employees graduated from each of these insitutions. I have feeling that UiL sounds quite credible for them, just simply because of easy read name, But quality of global MBA is questinable despite of very good cirruculum of the program.

I figured out following advantages of each program. What do you think about this?
Illinois iMBA - in Scandinavia and Zurich - not so recognizable name. Probably, very high quality of education.
QMUL - well recognized name. Probably, not very hight quality of education.
ESCP - well recognized name in Paris and London, Awerage recognition in Zurich and Scandonavia. Very high quality of education.

[quote]I don't think this is a real problem. ESCP is the world's oldest business school and is clearly one of the best. It doesn't need to be incorporated as a university in Spain to issue French degrees. . [/quote]
Duncan, Your answer is very valuable. I read in other topics that you ranked executive masters from top French Ecoles very high and was even concidering one of those for yourself.
What would you say about QMUL global MBA, compared to EMIB and iMBA Illinois?
Main goal is Scandinavian and Swiss (Zurich) big international IT and Financial companies job markets. Like UBS, Credit Suisse, IBM, Microsoft. How valuable these institutions are there?
I did some linkedin research for Zurich and Scandinavia, there are more or less similar amount of employees graduated from each of these insitutions. I have feeling that UiL sounds quite credible for them, just simply because of easy read name, But quality of global MBA is questinable despite of very good cirruculum of the program.

I figured out following advantages of each program. What do you think about this?
Illinois iMBA - in Scandinavia and Zurich - not so recognizable name. Probably, very high quality of education.
QMUL - well recognized name. Probably, not very hight quality of education.
ESCP - well recognized name in Paris and London, Awerage recognition in Zurich and Scandonavia. Very high quality of education.
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Duncan

I don't have the time to answer you fully. Study at the top schools in the region where you want to work. ESCP will have much better recognition in Zurich, but study at ETH or HSG to work there. I don't understand why you think that QMUL has high recognition.

I don't have the time to answer you fully. Study at the top schools in the region where you want to work. ESCP will have much better recognition in Zurich, but study at ETH or HSG to work there. I don't understand why you think that QMUL has high recognition.
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