MBA in the Netherlands


Tanya2021

I am considering to do an MBA degree in the Netherlands. I cannot choose between Maastricht school of management and Nyenrode University. Once MBA is completed I am planning to look for a job in Europe, preferably in the Netherlands. I would appreciate your advice on the topic.

I am considering to do an MBA degree in the Netherlands. I cannot choose between Maastricht school of management and Nyenrode University. Once MBA is completed I am planning to look for a job in Europe, preferably in the Netherlands. I would appreciate your advice on the topic.
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Duncan

MSM is an export brand, so Nyenrode is a slightly better choice. Of course RSM, Tias and UvA are much safer choices. 

MSM is an export brand, so Nyenrode is a slightly better choice. Of course RSM, Tias and UvA are much safer choices. 
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Duncan

A year long intensive Dutch language course would probably be a better investment for many wanting to work in the Netherlands or Belgium.

A year long intensive Dutch language course would probably be a better investment for many wanting to work in the Netherlands or Belgium.
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@Duncan
I have an offer from TIAS & Nyenrode .from above post,you said TIAS is a safer choice.
could you explain why tias is better than Nyenrode ?  as per my research nyenrode has good name than Tias in Netherlands.
any suggestion from you would help me decide the school

thankyou 

[Edited by Tarimela Vamsi Krishna Reddy on Feb 05, 2021]

@Duncan<br>I have an offer from TIAS &amp; Nyenrode .from above post,you said TIAS is a safer choice.<br>could you explain why tias is better than Nyenrode ?&nbsp; as per my research nyenrode has good name than Tias in Netherlands.<br>any suggestion from you would help me decide the school<br><br>thankyou&nbsp;
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Duncan

Nyenrode is better if you speak Dutch at a professional level. I think you dont. 

Nyenrode is better if you speak Dutch at a professional level. I think you dont.&nbsp;
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Duncan

Also see: https://find-mba.com/board/europe/netherlands-45873 

Nyenrode is a very different sort of school, because it's private and posh. It appeals to a more conservative sort of employer and it's overwhelmingly a school aimed at Dutch speakers. TIAS is much more open, internationally oriented and socially-minded. It also gets higher salaries for its MBAs than Nyenrode. 

Also see: https://find-mba.com/board/europe/netherlands-45873&nbsp;<br><br>Nyenrode is a very different sort of school, because it's private and posh. It appeals to a more conservative sort of employer and it's overwhelmingly a school aimed at Dutch speakers. TIAS is much more open, internationally oriented and socially-minded. It also gets higher salaries for its MBAs than Nyenrode.&nbsp;
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Inactive User

MBA programs in the Netherlands can be quite tricky because there is often a disconnect between what international MBA students are looking for in the program (often to land a job in Europe), and the actual outcomes of the schools, especially if students don't speak Dutch.

What are your goals? Why did you apply to Nyenrode and Tias? Did you apply to any other schools? 

MBA programs in the Netherlands can be quite tricky because there is often a disconnect between what international MBA students are looking for in the program (often to land a job in Europe), and the actual outcomes of the schools, especially if students don't speak Dutch.<br><br>What are your goals? Why did you apply to Nyenrode and Tias? Did you apply to any other schools?&nbsp;
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vaibhavbh

I am planning to pursue MBA in the Netherlands. Can you please suggest colleges on on below preference (I am NON-EU international student) - 
1. Session start early 2022
2. 12 months MBA

I am planning to pursue MBA in the Netherlands. Can you please suggest colleges on on below preference (I am NON-EU international student) -&nbsp;<br>1. Session start early 2022<br>2. 12 months MBA
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Duncan

RSM is the list. If you need to ask, you are not doing diligent research. 

If you don't speak Dutch and want to work there, start with an intensive Dutch course through the bring and summer, for example at the UvA.  and start at UvA or TIAS in September

RSM is the list. If you need to ask, you are not doing diligent research.&nbsp;<br><br>If you don't speak Dutch and want to work there, start with an intensive Dutch course through the bring and summer, for example at the UvA.&nbsp; and start at UvA or TIAS in September
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00694

Hi,

Have you considered the Maastricht School of Management full-time MBA? https://www.msm.nl/education-programs/mba/full-time-mba/intro. This is a 12 months full-time MBA. On the program page you can find more information, and don't forget to download the brochure, giving you more details about the international set-up of the program. You can also chat with current students and alumni.  

Hi,<br><br>Have you considered the Maastricht School of Management full-time MBA? https://www.msm.nl/education-programs/mba/full-time-mba/intro. This is a 12 months full-time MBA. On the program page you can find more information, and don't forget to download the brochure, giving you more details about the international set-up of the program. You can also chat with current students and alumni.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Duncan

Hey @00694 you seem to work for the MSM. Why did Maastricht University end its association with MSM, which this site reported in 2014? https://find-mba.com/news/2014/09/maastricht-school-of-management-and-maastricht-university-partner-on-new-mba  

Hey @00694 you seem to work for the MSM. Why did Maastricht University end its association with MSM, which this site reported in 2014? https://find-mba.com/news/2014/09/maastricht-school-of-management-and-maastricht-university-partner-on-new-mba&nbsp;&nbsp;
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00694

Dear Duncan, many thanks for your message. Indeed I am working for MSM. About the announced collaboration in the MBA in 2014, both parties mutually decided not to move on with the MBA collaboration at that time. Nevertheless we have been working together with the UM in several other areas and currently we are working towards further future collaboration. 

Dear Duncan, many thanks for your message. Indeed I am working for MSM. About the announced collaboration in the MBA in 2014, both parties mutually decided not to move on with the MBA collaboration at that time. Nevertheless we have been working together with the UM in several other areas and currently we are working towards further future collaboration.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>
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Duncan

Was it *very* mutual? https://www.observantonline.nl/english/Home/Articles/id/42353 

Was it *very* mutual? https://www.observantonline.nl/english/Home/Articles/id/42353&nbsp;
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00694

Of course journalistic articles can take their own take on events and this article includes personal opinions as well. However, this being said, the article confirms that we are working towards further collaboration as indicated in my previous post.


<div>Of course journalistic articles can take their own take on events and this article includes personal opinions as well. However, this being said, the article confirms that we are working towards further collaboration as indicated in my previous post.</div><div>
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MBA Candidates need to be aware of the consequences of doing an MBA and investing a lot in Nynerode, there is no official degree in the Netherlands; you cannot get a paper from DUO in the government diploma system. If you go back to your home country, it is not recognised everywhere. AMBA and EQUIS are private. Their accounts have no legal validity.

[Edited by Alexsandra1229 on Feb 08, 2024]

MBA Candidates need to be aware of the consequences of doing an MBA and investing a lot in Nynerode, there is no official degree in the Netherlands; you cannot get a paper from DUO in the government diploma system. If you go back to your home country, it is not recognised everywhere. AMBA and EQUIS are private. Their accounts have no legal validity.
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Duncan

Just for context: Nyenrode has been state-recognised as a university for five decades. It's a famous and well-respected university. The Netherlands. and the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium share a body, the NVAO, which also accredits individual programs. Accrediation is optional, but DOU funds Dutch students under 30 attending NVAO-accredited programs. NVAO accredits the pre-experience bachelors and masters degrees at Nyenrode, at other top business schools. However, a majority of the Dutch MBA providers do not have/want/need NVAO accreditation, partly because MBA students are [often] employer-funded or not eligible for DUO funding: the Amsterdam, the Hague, Hanze, Nyenrode, Open, Saxion, Webster universities, and the IBO, Laureate and NCIO business schools don't have it.



TLDR - International degree recognition is tricky: private-sector employers will generally accept private universities like Harvard and Nyenrode even if they have non-profit, non-government accreditation. However, Nyenrode has been government-recognised since 1971 https://zakelijk.duo.nl/portaal/rio/selfservice/instellingserkenningen/b3a90909-ff74-4aa7-b348-837d50d04474?kenmerk=01MC

[Edited by Duncan on Feb 08, 2024]

Just for context: Nyenrode has been state-recognised as a university for five decades. It's a famous and well-respected university. The Netherlands. and the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium share a body, the NVAO, which also accredits individual programs. Accrediation is optional, but DOU funds Dutch students under 30 attending NVAO-accredited programs. NVAO accredits the pre-experience bachelors and masters degrees at Nyenrode, at other top business schools. However, a majority of the Dutch MBA providers do not have/want/need NVAO accreditation, partly because MBA students are [often] employer-funded or not eligible for DUO funding: the Amsterdam, the Hague, Hanze, Nyenrode, Open, Saxion, Webster universities, and the IBO, Laureate and NCIO business schools don't have it. <br><br>
<br>TLDR - International degree recognition is tricky: private-sector employers will generally accept private universities like Harvard and Nyenrode even if they have non-profit, non-government accreditation. However, Nyenrode has been government-recognised since 1971 https://zakelijk.duo.nl/portaal/rio/selfservice/instellingserkenningen/b3a90909-ff74-4aa7-b348-837d50d04474?kenmerk=01MC
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