Mafed Bocconi VS GGSB MBA luxury goods management???


Hey Yuval
Thanks for the answer. I guess if you are lookingat Europe they do have the advantage of healthcare and low cost school, however the anti-semitism there is scary
I understand what you are saying about Israel but I am hopeful things will change soon (have to believe in something)
But as for an MBA, I am specifically for a program in English and the only recanati program is Sofaer which I am absolutely not interested in. I think the Start-uP MBA will be great since its for entrepreneurs but I would love to hear more about the IDC MBA program. Is it internationally accredited? What about the ranking of the IDC in Israel? I know they are ranked high for law but don't know about their international MBA. Is is also a one year program?
Let me know

Hey Yuval
Thanks for the answer. I guess if you are lookingat Europe they do have the advantage of healthcare and low cost school, however the anti-semitism there is scary
I understand what you are saying about Israel but I am hopeful things will change soon (have to believe in something)
But as for an MBA, I am specifically for a program in English and the only recanati program is Sofaer which I am absolutely not interested in. I think the Start-uP MBA will be great since its for entrepreneurs but I would love to hear more about the IDC MBA program. Is it internationally accredited? What about the ranking of the IDC in Israel? I know they are ranked high for law but don't know about their international MBA. Is is also a one year program?
Let me know
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Duncan

Why not take the Recanti - Kellogg EMBA? That is am amazing degree at a discount.

Why not take the Recanti - Kellogg EMBA? That is am amazing degree at a discount.
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well the program is considered very elite here and applicants have about 10 years experience in high management - Unfortunately I am not there yet - I have 5.5 years experience including my 1st year in an entry potion (only 3 years management). Unfortunately I don't think i would get in. Plus, I am looking for a full time program so I can focus on it which is why the Start-uP MBA (from Technion) and Global MBA (from IDC) are appealing to me. I mentioned before that I am not interested in Sofaer sinc i heard poor reviews, and Bar Ilan University one year MBA just doesn't look serious enough in my opinion.

well the program is considered very elite here and applicants have about 10 years experience in high management - Unfortunately I am not there yet - I have 5.5 years experience including my 1st year in an entry potion (only 3 years management). Unfortunately I don't think i would get in. Plus, I am looking for a full time program so I can focus on it which is why the Start-uP MBA (from Technion) and Global MBA (from IDC) are appealing to me. I mentioned before that I am not interested in Sofaer sinc i heard poor reviews, and Bar Ilan University one year MBA just doesn't look serious enough in my opinion.
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Duncan

Well, why not apply? I did an executive MBA (At London Business School) and some of the students there had as much work experience as you, even though we ask for more. Recanti asks for seven years, and 5,5 is close to that. It can't hurt to ask.

Some of my classmates were either studying full time or working on start-ups: they certainly used the EMBA to focus on studying.

Either way, I recommend you look at the entrepreneurship summer school at London business school. That is open to anyone who meets MBA standards, not just our own students, and that's an amazing experience in itself. http://www.london.edu/facultyandresearch/subjectareas/strategyandentrepreneurship/Entrepreneurshipsummerschool.html

Well, why not apply? I did an executive MBA (At London Business School) and some of the students there had as much work experience as you, even though we ask for more. Recanti asks for seven years, and 5,5 is close to that. It can't hurt to ask.

Some of my classmates were either studying full time or working on start-ups: they certainly used the EMBA to focus on studying.

Either way, I recommend you look at the entrepreneurship summer school at London business school. That is open to anyone who meets MBA standards, not just our own students, and that's an amazing experience in itself. http://www.london.edu/facultyandresearch/subjectareas/strategyandentrepreneurship/Entrepreneurshipsummerschool.html
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maubia

well the program is considered very elite here and applicants have about 10 years experience in high management -


Hi, this is probably what is written in the brochure... :-) Last year I had the pleasure to be invited by Kellogg-Whu (but I had to decline) and also got in touch with Kellogg Recanati (in an mba fair). I can assure you that I don't have such a managerial experience (and not even reaching the 10y experience in a whole), being an IT professional

<blockquote>well the program is considered very elite here and applicants have about 10 years experience in high management - </blockquote>

Hi, this is probably what is written in the brochure... :-) Last year I had the pleasure to be invited by Kellogg-Whu (but I had to decline) and also got in touch with Kellogg Recanati (in an mba fair). I can assure you that I don't have such a managerial experience (and not even reaching the 10y experience in a whole), being an IT professional
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really? Thats very interesting to hear. In israel they make it seem like only CEO's and CFO's get admitted...

really? Thats very interesting to hear. In israel they make it seem like only CEO's and CFO's get admitted...
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maubia

really? Thats very interesting to hear. In israel they make it seem like only CEO's and CFO's get admitted...


Well this happens for all schools... last year I got in touch with IMD, when I told them that my profile didn't look in line with the high profiles in their flyer they replied that it s only a marketing tool.
By the way I'm not saying that you ll be admitted, I'm only saying that you can have a chance

<blockquote>really? Thats very interesting to hear. In israel they make it seem like only CEO's and CFO's get admitted...</blockquote>

Well this happens for all schools... last year I got in touch with IMD, when I told them that my profile didn't look in line with the high profiles in their flyer they replied that it s only a marketing tool.
By the way I'm not saying that you ll be admitted, I'm only saying that you can have a chance
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Good to know. I think I'm going to apply to the Kellog Recanati at TAU and the Start-up MBA at the Technion in the end. I might still look into IDC

Good to know. I think I'm going to apply to the Kellog Recanati at TAU and the Start-up MBA at the Technion in the end. I might still look into IDC
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maubia

Good to know. I think I'm going to apply to the Kellog Recanati at TAU and the Start-up MBA at the Technion in the end. I might still look into IDC


at 45000e it's a bargain.. in Germany it costs 75000e

<blockquote>Good to know. I think I'm going to apply to the Kellog Recanati at TAU and the Start-up MBA at the Technion in the end. I might still look into IDC </blockquote>

at 45000e it's a bargain.. in Germany it costs 75000e
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The Start-uP MBA is around $35,000 USD and the IDC MBA is around $33,000 USD so I think those appeal to me just a little bit more! :)

The Start-uP MBA is around $35,000 USD and the IDC MBA is around $33,000 USD so I think those appeal to me just a little bit more! :)
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Duncan

In Chicago, the Kellogg EMBA is $83,250 **per year** for two years. If I was in Israel, I would take it very seriously. http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Programs/EMBA/Application_Process/Tuition_FinAid.aspx

In Chicago, the Kellogg EMBA is $83,250 **per year** for two years. If I was in Israel, I would take it very seriously. http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/Programs/EMBA/Application_Process/Tuition_FinAid.aspx
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Yuval

Gsus, I wrote you such a great reply but it got deleted!

So I'll try to briefly explain.

1. there are 3 programs in Israel which U should consider.
A. Recanati-the best. Well known for its srudy and netwroeking after graduation.
B- The hebrew University at Jerusalem-the same as TLV but second best.
C-IDC- I graduated my B.A in business and marketing which is the best because once you pay here, you get value for money program unlike TLV university's B.A which people I met envy me so because I studied at the IDC and they studied at TLV and said that eventually the whole studying experience is different and were not satisfied. But for MBA it's different due to the higher prices of the program at TLV.
D-Technion- I would reccomend you not to go there because as I wrote in my earlier post, it is more engineer oriented+loust networking. I would go to the IDC only because the networking is better there.

Another thing you probably know about our little country-due its size and the fact that everyone know everybody here you need a good place which can get you a job after and unfirtunately in Israel, unlike U,S,A and Europe, salaries are not set by the rank of the institute nor by the kind of the degree you have.
You need to know people and to have experience (sometimes, unfortunately, networking and exeprience are more important than degrees here)

About years of experience.
you are qualified for every program (they just brand themselves as 10 years)sorry for the language but it is Bullshit. I know 4 different people who had 3-4 years of experience who graduated with me from the IDC that got accepted and to tell you the truth, they are not geniuses nor seniors in their jobs. They had the money to pay and the grades and the connections to get accepted!
Go there if you have the money and grades. GMAT is needed for MBA only 48 quantitive (EMBA0usualy you sdon't need)

so, I guess thats it. let me know if you need any more help with alumni or people to talk with.

BTW, this is for Duncan- I spokle with some of my European friends and they told me that both programs are good but I was advised to go to Bocconi for a MSc inspite all the other things I discussed with you. They said that the MSc from Bocconi will be more considered than an MBA at GGSB.
So I'll apply them both. lets see what will happen.

Thanks anyway for your help :) you helped me a lot

Gsus, I wrote you such a great reply but it got deleted!

So I'll try to briefly explain.

1. there are 3 programs in Israel which U should consider.
A. Recanati-the best. Well known for its srudy and netwroeking after graduation.
B- The hebrew University at Jerusalem-the same as TLV but second best.
C-IDC- I graduated my B.A in business and marketing which is the best because once you pay here, you get value for money program unlike TLV university's B.A which people I met envy me so because I studied at the IDC and they studied at TLV and said that eventually the whole studying experience is different and were not satisfied. But for MBA it's different due to the higher prices of the program at TLV.
D-Technion- I would reccomend you not to go there because as I wrote in my earlier post, it is more engineer oriented+loust networking. I would go to the IDC only because the networking is better there.

Another thing you probably know about our little country-due its size and the fact that everyone know everybody here you need a good place which can get you a job after and unfirtunately in Israel, unlike U,S,A and Europe, salaries are not set by the rank of the institute nor by the kind of the degree you have.
You need to know people and to have experience (sometimes, unfortunately, networking and exeprience are more important than degrees here)

About years of experience.
you are qualified for every program (they just brand themselves as 10 years)sorry for the language but it is Bullshit. I know 4 different people who had 3-4 years of experience who graduated with me from the IDC that got accepted and to tell you the truth, they are not geniuses nor seniors in their jobs. They had the money to pay and the grades and the connections to get accepted!
Go there if you have the money and grades. GMAT is needed for MBA only 48 quantitive (EMBA0usualy you sdon't need)

so, I guess thats it. let me know if you need any more help with alumni or people to talk with.

BTW, this is for Duncan- I spokle with some of my European friends and they told me that both programs are good but I was advised to go to Bocconi for a MSc inspite all the other things I discussed with you. They said that the MSc from Bocconi will be more considered than an MBA at GGSB.
So I'll apply them both. lets see what will happen.

Thanks anyway for your help :) you helped me a lot
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Duncan

I think Bocconi is a much better choice because Grenoble is really playing with its brand dangerously. All these franchised programmes all over the world.... it's bad news for alumni.

I think Bocconi is a much better choice because Grenoble is really playing with its brand dangerously. All these franchised programmes all over the world.... it's bad news for alumni.
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aleja60

Hello Yumal, to which university did you end up going? did you like it?. why did you or didn't you choose GGSB?

thank you

Hello Yumal, to which university did you end up going? did you like it?. why did you or didn't you choose GGSB?

thank you
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Duncan

An MBA from PSB is not valuable.

An MBA from PSB is not valuable.
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