How good is the Msc in management consulting at UCD


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Can it effectively place at big 4 consulting departments or places like Accenture etc in Ireland? 

Can it effectively place at big 4 consulting departments or places like Accenture etc in Ireland? 
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Duncan

Yup, pretty good placement into Accenture, Salesforce and the Big Four accounting and advisory firms.

Yup, pretty good placement into Accenture, Salesforce and the Big Four accounting and advisory firms.
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Inactive User

Yup, pretty good placement into Accenture, Salesforce and the Big Four accounting and advisory firms.

Thank you. What about the strategic management master's? Is that better or is this better? Strategic management has a pretty good machine learning elective as well which might be more useful. 

[quote]Yup, pretty good placement into Accenture, Salesforce and the Big Four accounting and advisory firms. [/quote]<br>Thank you. What about the strategic management master's? Is that better or is this better? Strategic management has a pretty good machine learning elective as well which might be more useful.&nbsp;
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Duncan

The cohort is different: older and more international but much less quantitative. But the curriculum is much less focused on management consulting, so it tends to serve IT consulting and softer finance roles. 

The cohort is different: older and more international but much less quantitative. But the curriculum is much less focused on management consulting, so it tends to serve IT consulting and softer finance roles.&nbsp;
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Inactive User

The cohort is different: older and more international but much less quantitative. But the curriculum is much less focused on management consulting, so it tends to serve IT consulting and softer finance roles. 

I have an admit from these two programs. I would like to get a job in consulting at any of the big 4 or the advisory firms in Ireland upon graduation. I just turned 25 so a bit above the average age at the management consulting master's. Which one should I choose? My undergrad is in finance and I have work ex in project management, business development plus 4 internships at the fortune 500s ranging from analytics to finance. However, I am very worried about the lack of any quantitative courses in any of these master's. If I compare it with continental euro master's then this seems to be very watered down. Even in comparison to the iMSM at UIUC, these master's lack any basic accounting, finance, operations modules 

[quote]The cohort is different: older and more international but much less quantitative. But the curriculum is much less focused on management consulting, so it tends to serve IT consulting and softer finance roles.&nbsp; [/quote]<br>I have an admit from these two programs. I would like to get a job in consulting at any of the big 4 or the advisory firms in Ireland upon graduation. I just turned 25 so a bit above the average age at the management consulting master's. Which one should I choose? My undergrad is in finance and I have work ex in project management, business development plus 4 internships at the fortune 500s ranging from analytics to finance. However, I am very worried about the lack of any quantitative courses in any of these master's. If I compare it with continental euro master's then this seems to be very watered down. Even in comparison to the iMSM at UIUC, these master's lack any basic accounting, finance, operations modules&nbsp;
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Duncan

Yes, of course, the MiM degree does have that, and the CEMS MIM has them as prerequisites: these specialized masters are options for people who want to avoid that. The management consulting degree certainly is better designed for people who need to master the process of change-oriented management consulting. Personally, I would consider their MSc in Business Analytics.

Yes, of course, the MiM degree does have that, and the CEMS MIM has them as prerequisites: these specialized masters are options for people who want to avoid that. The management consulting degree certainly is better designed for people who need to master the process of change-oriented management consulting. Personally, I would consider their MSc in Business Analytics.
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Which would you recommend then for someone who has just graduated from university with a business undergrad who wants to keep their options open? (22 years old)


Doesn't msc management consultancy limit you to a career in consultancy?

Also, which in your opinion would yield the highest salary return between management consultancy, business analytics, strategic management and international business?

Which would you recommend then for someone who has just graduated from university with a business undergrad who wants to keep their options open? (22 years old)<br><br><br>Doesn't msc management consultancy limit you to a career in consultancy?<br><br>Also, which in your opinion would yield the highest salary return between management consultancy, business analytics, strategic management and international business?
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Duncan

Don't keep your options open :) think about your skills and preferences, and pick between the first two accordingly. The latter two are not very common roles. 

Don't keep your options open :) think about your skills and preferences, and pick between the first two accordingly. The latter two are not very common roles.&nbsp;
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Inactive User

Don't keep your options open :) think about your skills and preferences, and pick between the first two accordingly. The latter two are not very common roles. 


Dear Duncan, I just got off the call with a few UCD msc management consultancy students and all of them had good things to say about the program. Many of them did end up staying on in Ireland and are working for the Big 4 in consulting. I took the career leaders test as you had advised and the results were pretty confusing with me getting highest scores (91%, 91% and 92%) for consulting, product development and corporate finance. Tbh I enjoy all these things and have internships in all of them. I have an undergrad in finance and like corporate finance and financial modeling a bit more but want to work in a consulting setup. Wouldn't the big 4 for consulting be perfect for this? Would my msc in management consulting help me out with such a role?
Thanks a lot. 

[quote]Don't keep your options open :) think about your skills and preferences, and pick between the first two accordingly. The latter two are not very common roles.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Dear Duncan, I just got off the call with a few UCD msc management consultancy students and all of them had good things to say about the program. Many of them did end up staying on in Ireland and are working for the Big 4 in consulting. I took the career leaders test as you had advised and the results were pretty confusing with me getting highest scores (91%, 91% and 92%) for consulting, product development and corporate finance. Tbh I enjoy all these things and have internships in all of them. I have an undergrad in finance and like corporate finance and financial modeling a bit more but want to work in a consulting setup. Wouldn't the big 4 for consulting be perfect for this? Would my msc in management consulting help me out with such a role?<br>Thanks a lot.&nbsp;
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Duncan

Maybe it comes down to values and life goals?

Maybe it comes down to values and life goals?
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Inactive User

Maybe it comes down to values and life goals?

I think consulting is a good goal. Is this msc a good path to that? 

[quote]Maybe it comes down to values and life goals? [/quote]<br>I think consulting is a good goal. Is this msc a good path to that?&nbsp;
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Duncan

Asked and answered already :)

Asked and answered already :)
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Thanks Duncan for your response.

However,  I have noticed that you sometimes emphasise the importance of quants based modules within masters courses. In the msc management consultancy there is 0 quant based modules. 

Would like to know your thoughts.

Thanks Duncan for your response.<br><br>However,&nbsp; I have noticed that you sometimes emphasise the importance of quants based modules within masters courses. In the msc management consultancy there is 0 quant based modules.&nbsp;<br><br>Would like to know your thoughts.
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StuartHE

Many students want to avoid quant courses. Business schools have to offer both. It's very hard to hire in the UK and Ireland right now. Employers have to pick from the talent available. 

Many students want to avoid quant courses. Business schools have to offer both. It's very hard to hire in the UK and Ireland right now. Employers have to pick from the talent available.&nbsp;<div><br></div>
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Inactive User

Many students want to avoid quant courses. Business schools have to offer both. It's very hard to hire in the UK and Ireland right now. Employers have to pick from the talent available. 

Would this master's be a good bet for an international non EU student who would like to aim for jobs there 

[quote]Many students want to avoid quant courses. Business schools have to offer both. It's very hard to hire in the UK and Ireland right now. Employers have to pick from the talent available.&nbsp;<div><br></div> [/quote]<br>Would this master's be a good bet for an international non EU student who would like to aim for jobs there&nbsp;
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StuartHE

As Duncan says above: "pretty good placement into Accenture, Salesforce and the Big Four accounting and advisory firms." Of course, the more quant courses like the MIM, MIF and analytics course will have better placement.

As Duncan says above: "pretty good placement into Accenture, Salesforce and the Big Four accounting and advisory firms." Of course, the more quant courses like the MIM, MIF and analytics course will have better placement.
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