Planning MBA from Erasmus, St.Gallen.


AnujSheth

Hello,
Hope everyone is doing fine.
I am new here, but found the discussion threads to be very lively and informative.
I have been going through a lot of posts for MBA from RSM and HSG, however, those posts are from 2012 and earlier.
Considering how we are in 2021 and we have all faced a life altering crisis - covid - I would want to understand the situation and prospects of getting into MBA from one of these schools, and prospects post MBA from them as well.
I recently took the GMAT scored 610, I have a work experience of 8 years (7 years in india and 1 year in Canada) in Healthcare, Hospital Marketing and Medical Tourism industry including a >2 years exp running a start up.
Please let me know if you need to know more about my profile to be able to guide me through this.

Hello,
Hope everyone is doing fine.
I am new here, but found the discussion threads to be very lively and informative.
I have been going through a lot of posts for MBA from RSM and HSG, however, those posts are from 2012 and earlier.
Considering how we are in 2021 and we have all faced a life altering crisis - covid - I would want to understand the situation and prospects of getting into MBA from one of these schools, and prospects post MBA from them as well.
I recently took the GMAT scored 610, I have a work experience of 8 years (7 years in india and 1 year in Canada) in Healthcare, Hospital Marketing and Medical Tourism industry including a >2 years exp running a start up.
Please let me know if you need to know more about my profile to be able to guide me through this.
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Duncan

I don't see any way you could be admitted to HSG's MBA. Broadly speaking, there is no major change in those schools in the last decade and earlier advice is still valid. 

I don't see any way you could be admitted to HSG's MBA. Broadly speaking, there is no major change in those schools in the last decade and earlier advice is still valid. 
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Andy776

Hi considering you are from India (as you have most of your work experience from there), I would redo the gmat as competition from this part of the world is tough and 610 is too low (for any of these two schools). If you could increase it to 670+ (at least) you would be in better shape. All the best :) 

[Edited by Andy776 on Sep 19, 2021]

Hi considering you are from India (as you have most of your work experience from there), I would redo the gmat as competition from this part of the world is tough and 610 is too low (for any of these two schools). If you could increase it to 670+ (at least) you would be in better shape. All the best :)&nbsp;<br><br>
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AnujSheth

I don't see any way you could be admitted to HSG's MBA. Broadly speaking, there is no major change in those schools in the last decade and earlier advice is still valid. 


Hello Duncan, 
Is this just because of the GMAT scores or is there something else that made you say that. 
Because I will be working on the GMAT again. Hoping to up the scores to 670+ as @Andy pointed out. 

[quote]I don't see any way you could be admitted to HSG's MBA. Broadly speaking, there is no major change in those schools in the last decade and earlier advice is still valid.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hello Duncan,&nbsp;<br>Is this just because of the GMAT scores or is there something else that made you say that.&nbsp;<br>Because I will be working on the GMAT again. Hoping to up the scores to 670+ as @Andy pointed out.&nbsp;
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Duncan

I don't see what role you would fill at owe of HGS's partner firms. You don't seem to speak any German. 

I don't see what role you would fill at owe of HGS's partner firms. You don't seem to speak any German.&nbsp;
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Andy776

@duncan is totally right. Do you speak any German? As you will really get all the benefits of HSG if you speak the language. The Netherlands (and Erasmus) will reduce the dependence on the local language as almost all dutch people speak English and firms (like Philips) operate in it. But something difficult to say especially for the German part of Switzerland (although a high command of the English language compared with France, Italy or Spain). 
But HSG as a university is fantastic with a great faculty (so as Erasmus) :)

[Edited by Andy776 on Sep 19, 2021]

@duncan is totally right. Do you speak any German? As you will really get all the benefits of HSG if you speak the language. The Netherlands (and Erasmus) will reduce the dependence on the local language as almost all dutch people speak English and firms (like Philips) operate in it. But something difficult to say especially for the German part of Switzerland (although a high command of the English language compared with France, Italy or Spain).&nbsp;<br>But HSG as a university is fantastic with a great faculty (so as Erasmus) :)<br>
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Andy776

But if I can add given to the covid situation, the high number of applicants and the fact you come from India, aim for a 700+. Competition will be tough for a small number of spots and to respect an international learning environment. All the best

[Edited by Andy776 on Sep 19, 2021]

But if I can add given to the covid situation, the high number of applicants and the fact you come from India, aim for a 700+. Competition will be tough for a small number of spots and to respect an international learning environment. All the best
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AnujSheth

But if I can add given to the covid situation, the high number of applicants and the fact you come from India, aim for a 700+. Competition will be tough for a small number of spots and to respect an international learning environment. All the best

Thank you Andy.. Got your point. ????

[quote]But if I can add given to the covid situation, the high number of applicants and the fact you come from India, aim for a 700+. Competition will be tough for a small number of spots and to respect an international learning environment. All the best [/quote]<br>Thank you Andy.. Got your point. ????
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Andy776

No worries! Let me know if you have more questions :) 

No worries! Let me know if you have more questions :)&nbsp;
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Inactive User

As far as I know, the low GMAT score will not guarantee a rejection. I know someone from India getting ESADE for 610. I also heard that an Indian got SDA Boconni for 510.
https://poetsandquants.com/2018/06/13/this-indian-student-got-into-sda-bocconi-with-a-510-gmat/

Both of these schools have a better ranking than RSM and HSG in FT.

There are several factors that will decide your admission, as pointed out by Duncan the local language is one of the major deciding factors. 

Well, I am surprised that why are you not trying to Canadian schools. I guess you will be getting some advantage there. As per my knowledge you will be having a fair chance in HEC Montreal.

As far as I know, the low GMAT score will not guarantee a rejection. I know someone from India getting ESADE for 610. I also heard that an Indian got SDA Boconni for 510.<br>https://poetsandquants.com/2018/06/13/this-indian-student-got-into-sda-bocconi-with-a-510-gmat/<br><br>Both of these schools have a better ranking than RSM and HSG in FT.<br><br>There are several factors that will decide your admission, as pointed out by Duncan the local language is one of the major deciding factors.&nbsp;<br><br>Well, I am surprised that why are you not trying to Canadian schools. I guess you will be getting some advantage there. As per my knowledge you will be having a fair chance in HEC Montreal.
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Andy776

With all my respect, I have several comments @R100
First, you compare exceptional cases with candidates that although have a low GMAT must have exceptional characteristics to counter this (great GPA, amazing work experience and achievements).
Second, you cannot compare an admit with these low scores from another university (which is already an outlier) to admits at other schools like HSG or RSM.
I can tell you that having a strong GMAT score is absolutely key and will help you get in front of other candidates (especially if you are Indian). Of course, the GMAT is not the only thing that they will look at, so it is better to have a strong overall profile (GPA, work experience and achievements).
Lastly, looking solely at the FT ranking is wrong because you should target your MBA university based on your goals, the place you would like to work post graduation and the languages you speak (or would like to learn). 
Anyway, hope I could help clarify several important points.

[Edited by Andy776 on Sep 30, 2021]

With all my respect, I have several comments @R100<br>First, you compare exceptional cases with candidates that although have a low GMAT must have exceptional characteristics to counter this (great GPA, amazing work experience and achievements).<br>Second, you cannot compare an admit with these low scores from another university (which is already an outlier) to admits at other schools like HSG or RSM.<br>I can tell you that having a strong GMAT score is absolutely key and will help you get in front of other candidates (<b>especially</b> if you are Indian). Of course, the GMAT is not the only thing that they will look at, so it is better to have a strong overall profile (GPA, work experience and achievements).<br>Lastly, looking solely at the FT ranking is wrong because you should target your MBA university based on your goals, the place you would like to work post graduation and the languages you speak (or would like to learn).&nbsp;<br>Anyway, hope I could help clarify several important points.
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Duncan

Speaking German is way more important at HSG than Dutch at RSM or Catalan at ESADE. German is, far and away, my strongest second language after English but still intermediate. I was rejected by HSG but accepted by ESADE, RSM, EMLyon, LBS etc... My German isn't good enough to work in 'German Switzerland'. 

[Edited by Duncan on Oct 01, 2021]

Speaking German is way more important at HSG than Dutch at RSM or Catalan at ESADE. German is, far and away, my strongest second language after English but still intermediate. I was rejected by HSG but accepted by ESADE, RSM, EMLyon, LBS etc... My German isn't good enough to work in 'German Switzerland'.&nbsp;
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