MBA Italy


Hi!

I have 4 years experience working as a Train Manager here in Italy.

I have a bachelor in Chemical engineering and i'm currently taking my Masters degree in Mechanical engineering for Energy and Environment.

Since i've been working for quite a bit, i have the economical possibility to get an MBA and dive into high level management (At least this should be the plan!), hopefully in the energy sector.

Would it be better to take a year long specialized master in energy and management (The prices are very low, this option is quite tempting), maybe the MaSEM by Bocconi, or would it be better to look for a proper MBA? The choice would be between MIB and Bocconi (but if i'm able to save money and get a good value for money MBA it would be better).

I haven't taken the GMAT test yet, I can speak both English and of course Italian.

[Edited by Gabriele Chietti on Nov 10, 2021]

Hi!<br>
I have 4 years experience working as a Train Manager here in Italy.<br>
I have a bachelor in Chemical engineering and i'm currently taking my Masters degree in Mechanical engineering for Energy and Environment.<br>
Since i've been working for quite a bit, i have the economical possibility to get an MBA and dive into high level management (At least this should be the plan!), hopefully in the energy sector.<br>
Would it be better to take a year long specialized master in energy and management (The prices are very low, this option is quite tempting), maybe the MaSEM by Bocconi, or would it be better to look for a proper MBA? The choice would be between MIB and Bocconi (but if i'm able to save money and get a good value for money MBA it would be better).<br>
I haven't taken the GMAT test yet, I can speak both English and of course Italian.
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Thant Htet...

I recommend you to pursue MBA instead of MaSEM. Energy and Management jobs are kinda facing scarcity and honestly you cannot find it wherever you go. If you have decided to go for MBA, do it at Bocconi as it has excellent recognition and reputation in every aspect of element.

I recommend you to pursue MBA instead of MaSEM. Energy and Management jobs are kinda facing scarcity and honestly you cannot find it wherever you go. If you have decided to go for MBA, do it at Bocconi as it has excellent recognition and reputation in every aspect of element.<br>
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I recommend you to pursue MBA instead of MaSEM. Energy and Management jobs are kinda facing scarcity and honestly you cannot find it wherever you go. If you have decided to go for MBA, do it at Bocconi as it has excellent recognition and reputation in every aspect of element.


I get it.
So do you think this huge money gap between Bocconi and MIB Trieste is well spent?
Is it feasible to be employed in the mid/high management right after a MBA or is it just a fantasy?
I'll be very glad to spend 35k euros more (just for the MBA, not mentioning the life cost in Milan) if I have somehow a good chance of doing what I want in the near future.
Another question: do you think working as a Train Manager is alright with the emplyment criteria, or do they look for already in management people?

Thank you!

[quote]I recommend you to pursue MBA instead of MaSEM. Energy and Management jobs are kinda facing scarcity and honestly you cannot find it wherever you go. If you have decided to go for MBA, do it at Bocconi as it has excellent recognition and reputation in every aspect of element.<br> [/quote]<br><br>I get it.<br>So do you think this huge money gap between Bocconi and MIB Trieste is well spent?<br>Is it feasible to be employed in the mid/high management right after a MBA or is it just a fantasy?<br>I'll be very glad to spend 35k euros more (just for the MBA, not mentioning the life cost in Milan) if I have somehow a good chance of doing what I want in the near future.<br>Another question: do you think working as a Train Manager is alright with the emplyment criteria, or do they look for already in management people?<br><br>Thank you!
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Duncan

More specific career goals will help you. Look at where the MBAs from those schools end up. Poli Milano might be an intermediate option. 

More specific career goals will help you. Look at where the MBAs from those schools end up. Poli Milano might be an intermediate option.&nbsp;
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More specific career goals will help you. Look at where the MBAs from those schools end up. Poli Milano might be an intermediate option. 


I've checked: it costs less than Bocconi, but it only requires the bachelor. 
I feel like I would waste my masters degree this way.

What do you think of MIB and Bocconi, Duncan?

[quote]More specific career goals will help you. Look at where the MBAs from those schools end up. Poli Milano might be an intermediate option.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>I've checked: it costs less than Bocconi, but it only requires the bachelor.&nbsp;<br>I feel like I would waste my masters degree this way.<br><br>What do you think of MIB and Bocconi, Duncan?
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Duncan

You are mistaken. All AMBA-accredited schools also require three years work experience. See https://www.som.polimi.it/en/course/mba/the-international-full-time-mba/ 

MIB and Bocconi are very good schools, as is Politecnico di Milano. What matters are your goals.

Take a look at:
- https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/specific-career-goals-help-you-to-pick-the-right-mba-64431
and 
- https://www.find-mba.com/board/33571 

You are mistaken. All AMBA-accredited schools also require three years work experience. See https://www.som.polimi.it/en/course/mba/the-international-full-time-mba/&nbsp;<br><br>MIB and Bocconi are very good schools, as is Politecnico di Milano. What matters are your goals.<br><br>Take a look at:<br>- https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/specific-career-goals-help-you-to-pick-the-right-mba-64431<br>and&nbsp;<br>- https://www.find-mba.com/board/33571&nbsp;
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You are mistaken. All AMBA-accredited schools also require three years work experience. See https://www.som.polimi.it/en/course/mba/the-international-full-time-mba/ 


MIB and Bocconi are very good schools, as is Politecnico di Milano. What matters are your goals.

Take a look at:
- https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/specific-career-goals-help-you-to-pick-the-right-mba-64431
and 
- https://www.find-mba.com/board/33571 


I'm sorry, i didn't explain myself well: I'm not concerned about the work experience (since this is my 4th year working in a big company), im concerned about my Masters degree. If i don't go wrong the Bocconi's MBA is strictly for those who have a Masters degree, not only a bachelor like PoliMi requires. Wouldn't it be a waste of money and title to look after a program for bachelors?
Anyways I've checked using Linkedin, lots of people come out from Bocconi and go straight into consulting, which is something I'm kinda skeptical about.
Probably i would prefeer something like Project Manager.
Any thoughts? Maybe MIB is better?

[Edited by Gabriele Chietti on Nov 11, 2021]

[quote]You are mistaken. All AMBA-accredited schools also require three years work experience. See https://www.som.polimi.it/en/course/mba/the-international-full-time-mba/&nbsp;<br><br><br>MIB and Bocconi are very good schools, as is Politecnico di Milano. What matters are your goals.<br><br>Take a look at:<br>- https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/specific-career-goals-help-you-to-pick-the-right-mba-64431<br>and&nbsp;<br>- https://www.find-mba.com/board/33571&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>I'm sorry, i didn't explain myself well: I'm not concerned about the work experience (since this is my 4th year working in a big company), im concerned about my Masters degree. If i don't go wrong the Bocconi's MBA is strictly for those who have a Masters degree, not only a bachelor like PoliMi requires. Wouldn't it be a waste of money and title to look after a program for bachelors?<br>Anyways I've checked using Linkedin, lots of people come out from Bocconi and go straight into consulting, which is something I'm kinda skeptical about.<br>Probably i would prefeer something like Project Manager.<br>Any thoughts? Maybe MIB is better?
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Duncan

The Bocconi MBA does not require a masters degree. If they did that they would get very few international applicants. https://www.sdabocconi.it/en/mba-executive-mba/full-time-mba/admissions 
In which industry would you like to be a project manager? Most project managers don't need to have MBAs. 

The Bocconi MBA does not require a masters degree. If they did that they would get very few international applicants. https://www.sdabocconi.it/en/mba-executive-mba/full-time-mba/admissions&nbsp;<br>In which industry would you like to be a project manager? Most project managers don't&nbsp;need to have MBAs.&nbsp;
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The Bocconi MBA does not require a masters degree. If they did that they would get very few international applicants. https://www.sdabocconi.it/en/mba-executive-mba/full-time-mba/admissions 
In which industry would you like to be a project manager? Most project managers don't need to have MBAs. 


Oh, I see.
I would love to work in the energy and renewable field.

A master would be better?

[quote]The Bocconi MBA does not require a masters degree. If they did that they would get very few international applicants. https://www.sdabocconi.it/en/mba-executive-mba/full-time-mba/admissions&nbsp;<br>In which industry would you like to be a project manager? Most project managers don't&nbsp;need to have MBAs.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Oh, I see.<br>I would love to work in the energy and renewable field.<br><br>A master would be better?<br><br>
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Duncan

I think you need to take some time and really think through your career strategy. 

I think you need to take some time and really think through your career strategy.&nbsp;
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I think you need to take some time and really think through your career strategy. 


I would love to.
Any suggestion about where to gather informations and make up my mind? 

[Edited by Gabriele Chietti on Nov 12, 2021]

[quote]I think you need to take some time and really think through your career strategy.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>I would love to.<br>Any suggestion about where to gather informations and make up my mind?&nbsp;
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Thant Htet...

I recommend you to pursue MBA instead of MaSEM. Energy and Management jobs are kinda facing scarcity and honestly you cannot find it wherever you go. If you have decided to go for MBA, do it at Bocconi as it has excellent recognition and reputation in every aspect of element.


I get it.
So do you think this huge money gap between Bocconi and MIB Trieste is well spent?
Is it feasible to be employed in the mid/high management right after a MBA or is it just a fantasy?
I'll be very glad to spend 35k euros more (just for the MBA, not mentioning the life cost in Milan) if I have somehow a good chance of doing what I want in the near future.
Another question: do you think working as a Train Manager is alright with the emplyment criteria, or do they look for already in management people?

Thank you!


Yes, it definitely is well spent to choose Bocconi. MBA degree either boosts your career progression or let you change the field easily. It is guaranteed that it's feasible enough to be employed in the mid/high management like you said.

[quote][quote]I recommend you to pursue MBA instead of MaSEM. Energy and Management jobs are kinda facing scarcity and honestly you cannot find it wherever you go. If you have decided to go for MBA, do it at Bocconi as it has excellent recognition and reputation in every aspect of element.<br> [/quote]<br><br>I get it.<br>So do you think this huge money gap between Bocconi and MIB Trieste is well spent?<br>Is it feasible to be employed in the mid/high management right after a MBA or is it just a fantasy?<br>I'll be very glad to spend 35k euros more (just for the MBA, not mentioning the life cost in Milan) if I have somehow a good chance of doing what I want in the near future.<br>Another question: do you think working as a Train Manager is alright with the emplyment criteria, or do they look for already in management people?<br><br>Thank you! [/quote]<br><br>Yes, it definitely is well spent to choose Bocconi. MBA degree either boosts your career progression or let you change the field easily. It is guaranteed that it's feasible enough to be employed in the mid/high management like you said.
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Thant Htet...

I think you need to take some time and really think through your career strategy. 


I would love to.
Any suggestion about where to gather informations and make up my mind? 


For this case, you can look up your desirable school on LinkedIn and can search for the industries, companies the alumni are working and from what region they came from. It will highlight your needs for gathering information.

[quote][quote]I think you need to take some time and really think through your career strategy.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>I would love to.<br>Any suggestion about where to gather informations and make up my mind?&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>For this case, you can look up your desirable school on LinkedIn and can search for the industries, companies the alumni are working and from what region they came from. It will highlight your needs for gathering information.
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Duncan

I think career strategy is also about working out what career you want to be in, what your aptitudes are and the steps along that career. @What color is your parachute' is a great guide, as is the careerleader.com test. If you focus on a school rather than an outcome, them there's a lot of path dependency there. Bocconi is a great school if you want to be a general manager or consultant at Unicredit, ABB, Amazon etc. But maybe for your path you don't need a business school, or you don't need an MBA. Start from goals, not from obvious options. 

I think career strategy is also about working out what career you want to be in, what your aptitudes are and the steps along that career. @What color is your parachute' is a great guide, as is the careerleader.com test. If you focus on a school rather than an outcome, them there's a lot of path dependency there. Bocconi is a great school if you want to be a general manager or consultant at Unicredit, ABB, Amazon etc. But maybe for your path you don't need a business school, or you don't need an MBA. Start from goals, not from obvious options.&nbsp;
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