Europe on a Budget


Duncan

Well, salary is the primary element in rankings of _business_ schools because the goal of business education is to generate value, and the student's ability to capture the value they generate hardly accounts for nothing. It's the central goal of professional schools.

Well, salary is the primary element in rankings of _business_ schools because the goal of business education is to generate value, and the student's ability to capture the value they generate hardly accounts for nothing. It's the central goal of professional schools.
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ralph


Professional accreditation i.e. the accreditation by AACSB, AMBA or EQUIS in the context of this thread (and website, generally) might be seen an indicator of a certain level of quality, however not having accreditation from one of these does not necessarily indicate a lack thereof.

I agree with you in theory. There are many business schools in different part of the world that might not have one of these accreditations, but which might still be worth the investment.

However, given the goals of many of this forum's users (who often want to transition to countries like England, the US, or those in western Europe,) I sincerely doubt that a school without international accreditation would help meet those goals.

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Professional accreditation i.e. the accreditation by AACSB, AMBA or EQUIS in the context of this thread (and website, generally) might be seen an indicator of a certain level of quality, however not having accreditation from one of these does not necessarily indicate a lack thereof.[/quote]
I agree with you in theory. There are many business schools in different part of the world that might not have one of these accreditations, but which might still be worth the investment.

However, given the goals of many of this forum's users (who often want to transition to countries like England, the US, or those in western Europe,) I sincerely doubt that a school without international accreditation would help meet those goals.
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There's the University of Oulu in Finland, that's around 17k EUR, last time I checked.

Is this considered a good school? I've not heard of it

[quote]There's the University of Oulu in Finland, that's around 17k EUR, last time I checked.[/quote]
Is this considered a good school? I've not heard of it
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Hello Everyone.

Even I am looking for a MBA within 20K EUR. I have 4 years work ex in sales in automotive ancillary industry. I would like to work in the same field after completing the MBA program and that is why I feel Germany is the right destination. What is your take on (HWR) - Berlin School of Economics and Law & Hoshschule Esslingen considering my career goal?

Hello Everyone.

Even I am looking for a MBA within 20K EUR. I have 4 years work ex in sales in automotive ancillary industry. I would like to work in the same field after completing the MBA program and that is why I feel Germany is the right destination. What is your take on (HWR) - Berlin School of Economics and Law & Hoshschule Esslingen considering my career goal?
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Duncan

The Hochschule Esslingen is in the middle a huge auto region and has a focus on manufacturing. The graduate school also has an MSc focussed on the auto industry. Berlin seems like a terrible idea for the auto industry: the other side of the country, in a region where the GDP is half that of the big western cities. Use the search and read the discussion board.

The Hochschule Esslingen is in the middle a huge auto region and has a focus on manufacturing. The graduate school also has an MSc focussed on the auto industry. Berlin seems like a terrible idea for the auto industry: the other side of the country, in a region where the GDP is half that of the big western cities. Use the search and read the discussion board.
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Thanks for your reply Duncan. As you said the Hochschule Esslingen has a focus on manufacturing. It offers MBA in industrial management. Considering that my interest is in sales & marketing, would his degree prove beneficial.

Thanks for your reply Duncan. As you said the Hochschule Esslingen has a focus on manufacturing. It offers MBA in industrial management. Considering that my interest is in sales & marketing, would his degree prove beneficial.
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ralph

Generally I agree with Duncan. Just one thing to add:

- EBS Business School offers a Master in Automotive Management. May be worth looking into as an alternative.

- I doubt that there are many management-level jobs in Germany's auto industry that don't require native-level German skills. Not sure if you speak the language or not, but it is something to be aware of going into a program like this with these goals.

Generally I agree with Duncan. Just one thing to add:

- EBS Business School offers a Master in Automotive Management. May be worth looking into as an alternative.

- I doubt that there are many management-level jobs in Germany's auto industry that don't require native-level German skills. Not sure if you speak the language or not, but it is something to be aware of going into a program like this with these goals.
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ezra

Agreed with Ralph. It could actually be that a German-language program would be better for a career in Germany. For instance, I searched for people working in the automotive industry in Germany on Linkedin, and not many b-schools with English-language programs are represented. Looks like TU München comes up quite a bit though.

Agreed with Ralph. It could actually be that a German-language program would be better for a career in Germany. For instance, I searched for people working in the automotive industry in Germany on Linkedin, and not many b-schools with English-language programs are represented. Looks like TU München comes up quite a bit though.
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Thank you Ralph & Ezra. Sorry I am a bit late to reply. Yes I have started my German language classes just recently. By Sept I may be able to complete A2 level at the most. I got an offer from Gisma this year but I turned it down after I read all the discussions about it. How do you rate esb reutlingen, again considering my goals.

Thank you Ralph & Ezra. Sorry I am a bit late to reply. Yes I have started my German language classes just recently. By Sept I may be able to complete A2 level at the most. I got an offer from Gisma this year but I turned it down after I read all the discussions about it. How do you rate esb reutlingen, again considering my goals.
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Hello Kaustubhdeo, I am from same background as yours and like you I have a passion towards this industry and that is why I opted to do my MBA in Germany(also budget). Esslingen is a very good option if you want to continue in the same field. But at the same time if you want to keep your horizons well wide then Pforzheim MBA is a better option. Also, as I have understood in my short stay at Germany, getting into an automotive company without excellent German is quite a task. Also as an advice try to complete till A2 by the time you move.

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Hello Kaustubhdeo, I am from same background as yours and like you I have a passion towards this industry and that is why I opted to do my MBA in Germany(also budget). Esslingen is a very good option if you want to continue in the same field. But at the same time if you want to keep your horizons well wide then Pforzheim MBA is a better option. Also, as I have understood in my short stay at Germany, getting into an automotive company without excellent German is quite a task. Also as an advice try to complete till A2 by the time you move.
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Hi Confusedbaby. May I ask from where are you pursuing your MBA currently? Pforzheim is definitely one of the options but I am reluctant to invest 2 years at this stage. Esslingen offers MBA in industrial management. Would it help me to stay in Sales profile. Do you have any Idea on how many people get work in sales after graduating from Esslingen? Also ESB Reutlingen offers international management. What is the rating / reputation of its MBA.

Hi Confusedbaby. May I ask from where are you pursuing your MBA currently? Pforzheim is definitely one of the options but I am reluctant to invest 2 years at this stage. Esslingen offers MBA in industrial management. Would it help me to stay in Sales profile. Do you have any Idea on how many people get work in sales after graduating from Esslingen? Also ESB Reutlingen offers international management. What is the rating / reputation of its MBA.
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