ESERP


Alejandro

hello; I live in Raleigh NC and I want to do my MBA in Barcelona. the top three schools EADE,IESE,ESADA are too expensive for me. UPF sounds like its focused on economics and i am looking for a more entreprenurial focus.
I came acrosss ESERP, can anyone give me any feedback? it is noewhere in this website which surprises me, I received info from them and it seems good, but i was not very impressed with the website.

i would very much appreciate anyones opinion!!
thank you in advance.

hello; I live in Raleigh NC and I want to do my MBA in Barcelona. the top three schools EADE,IESE,ESADA are too expensive for me. UPF sounds like its focused on economics and i am looking for a more entreprenurial focus.
I came acrosss ESERP, can anyone give me any feedback? it is noewhere in this website which surprises me, I received info from them and it seems good, but i was not very impressed with the website.

i would very much appreciate anyones opinion!!
thank you in advance.
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LP

Alejandro, that MBA doesn't look terrific. It has no international accreditation and the faculty doesn't seem very good. It may however have good links with companies --it seems from their web page that most of their faculty is part-time faculty from the corporate world. Anyways, the fact that it is 20 years old and has no international accreditation is (to me) a bad sign.

If you want an assurance of quality and reasonable prices your best option in Spain would be Carlos III. That's in Madrid though, not Barcelona. Their MBA is accredited and is quite affordable compared to the rest (I think tuition is about the same as ESERP). Otherwise you should check other countries, unless you are completely inflexible in wanting to go to Barcelona.

Alejandro, that MBA doesn't look terrific. It has no international accreditation and the faculty doesn't seem very good. It may however have good links with companies --it seems from their web page that most of their faculty is part-time faculty from the corporate world. Anyways, the fact that it is 20 years old and has no international accreditation is (to me) a bad sign.

If you want an assurance of quality and reasonable prices your best option in Spain would be Carlos III. That's in Madrid though, not Barcelona. Their MBA is accredited and is quite affordable compared to the rest (I think tuition is about the same as ESERP). Otherwise you should check other countries, unless you are completely inflexible in wanting to go to Barcelona.
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Alejandro

thank you for your comments. I also dont get a good gut feeling from ESERP. It is icredible that there is barely any information out there about it besides on their own website. Another option that I still consider is UPF. Despite their apparent Economics focus, they seem to have a balanced program with internships and good staff. Do you have any opinion on UPF that I should consider?

thank you for your comments. I also dont get a good gut feeling from ESERP. It is icredible that there is barely any information out there about it besides on their own website. Another option that I still consider is UPF. Despite their apparent Economics focus, they seem to have a balanced program with internships and good staff. Do you have any opinion on UPF that I should consider?
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katalina

This is what a stuende at UPF, isanchro, wrote me in his post:


IDEC-UPF has a very good program also, probably one of the the 5 best in Spain, and its very specialized in finance (althoug it have lacks in other business areas), so it could be a very good option for you.

This is what a stuende at UPF, isanchro, wrote me in his post:
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IDEC-UPF has a very good program also, probably one of the the 5 best in Spain, and its very specialized in finance (althoug it have lacks in other business areas), so it could be a very good option for you.
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katalina

And this is what Mario answered:

Pompeu is an excellent University, but is not fair to use its UNI brand as a MBA Brand, it does not have any accreditation and is totally unknown at the international level, MBA wise of course.
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AMBA EQUIS are serious institutions and the only ones which garantees the MBA in the world.


I would say it depends on the plans you have afterwards. It's true that besides the very good programs (IE etc) you have a long list of MBAs which tend to be less international, with a high percentage of Latin American and Spanish students, and not so significant international reputation.
If you intend to work in Spain, UPF can be a good decision, its a good MBA and not expensive.

And this is what Mario answered:
<blockquote>Pompeu is an excellent University, but is not fair to use its UNI brand as a MBA Brand, it does not have any accreditation and is totally unknown at the international level, MBA wise of course.
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AMBA EQUIS are serious institutions and the only ones which garantees the MBA in the world.
</blockquote>

I would say it depends on the plans you have afterwards. It's true that besides the very good programs (IE etc) you have a long list of MBAs which tend to be less international, with a high percentage of Latin American and Spanish students, and not so significant international reputation.
If you intend to work in Spain, UPF can be a good decision, its a good MBA and not expensive.
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Sasha

As an ex-student of ESERP Business School, I would not recommend anyone to study a MBA there. Even though it might initially seem like a cost-saver option, it soon becomes aparent why their prices are so much lower than the other schools in Barcelona.

My advice...if what you want is just a piece of paper with the letters "MBA" on it, this school is for you. However, if you want value for your educational experience and the euros you spend, save up and go to a school known to provide such services.

As an ex-student of ESERP Business School, I would not recommend anyone to study a MBA there. Even though it might initially seem like a cost-saver option, it soon becomes aparent why their prices are so much lower than the other schools in Barcelona.

My advice...if what you want is just a piece of paper with the letters "MBA" on it, this school is for you. However, if you want value for your educational experience and the euros you spend, save up and go to a school known to provide such services.
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sally

I asked a similar question in this post titled "We can't all go to ESADE! What about an MBA for "Average" students?"

http://www.find-mba.com/board/8586

The options in the category you seem to be looking for are UPF (aka Pompeu Fabra) and, if you're willing to go to Madrid, Carlos III.

Both are large, respected universities in Spain. However, neither are particularly well known for their MBA programs. But, in both cases, their quality overall seems to be good, so you should get a pretty good education. They are just lacking the prestige of an IE or an ESADE. (And I'd guess the networking probably isn't quite as good.)

Two advantages to Carlos III are that 1) It's accredited by AMBA, and UPF is not. 2) They seem to have more of an entrepreneurship focus. For example, the final project for the MBA is to submit your own business plan.

I am leaning toward Carlos III myself. (Depends on whether I might be able to finance one of the other schools)... I plan to apply for 2010, so maybe I will see you there!

I asked a similar question in this post titled "We can't all go to ESADE! What about an MBA for "Average" students?"

http://www.find-mba.com/board/8586

The options in the category you seem to be looking for are UPF (aka Pompeu Fabra) and, if you're willing to go to Madrid, Carlos III.

Both are large, respected universities in Spain. However, neither are particularly well known for their MBA programs. But, in both cases, their quality overall seems to be good, so you should get a pretty good education. They are just lacking the prestige of an IE or an ESADE. (And I'd guess the networking probably isn't quite as good.)

Two advantages to Carlos III are that 1) It's accredited by AMBA, and UPF is not. 2) They seem to have more of an entrepreneurship focus. For example, the final project for the MBA is to submit your own business plan.

I am leaning toward Carlos III myself. (Depends on whether I might be able to finance one of the other schools)... I plan to apply for 2010, so maybe I will see you there!
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Masood Sah...

hi ppl, i am from india,bangalore, and i got offer letter recently, any one joining this year 2009-2010 class, le me knw...

i feel Carlos has its own advantages like AMBA accreditation,which only 5 Spanish schools have,so u will study with ppl who have good work experience rated top spanish school in any website you check,faculty are good, heard likes from MIT n Harvard.+ cost effective , and no gmat or IELTS, thats great,,,

it is not well known may be bcoz it in getafe,and uni started only in 1989, althou jus 1 hour from madrid...so living in madrid would be cool, i am planning to do tht.

disadvantages is, classes r in evening, 5 to 8pm,english version, like UK gives 3 year work permit after MBA, spain does not give, language prob, since ppl speak only spain.

all de best,anyone joining for MBA 2009-2010 and let me know about the same.
also you can write me directly at [email protected]

hi ppl, i am from india,bangalore, and i got offer letter recently, any one joining this year 2009-2010 class, le me knw...

i feel Carlos has its own advantages like AMBA accreditation,which only 5 Spanish schools have,so u will study with ppl who have good work experience rated top spanish school in any website you check,faculty are good, heard likes from MIT n Harvard.+ cost effective , and no gmat or IELTS, thats great,,,

it is not well known may be bcoz it in getafe,and uni started only in 1989, althou jus 1 hour from madrid...so living in madrid would be cool, i am planning to do tht.

disadvantages is, classes r in evening, 5 to 8pm,english version, like UK gives 3 year work permit after MBA, spain does not give, language prob, since ppl speak only spain.

all de best,anyone joining for MBA 2009-2010 and let me know about the same.
also you can write me directly at [email protected]
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JamieO

Hi Massey,

It would be really helpful if you didn't write with text message spelling. You post is not particularly easy to understand.

Thanks!

Hi Massey,

It would be really helpful if you didn't write with text message spelling. You post is not particularly easy to understand.

Thanks!
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Masood Sah...

sure jamieo...

for any clarification feel free to contact me,

cheers ^_^

sure jamieo...

for any clarification feel free to contact me,

cheers ^_^
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grvbose

How about joining Eserp this year. Is it internationally accredited now?

How about joining Eserp this year. Is it internationally accredited now?
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Duncan

No. I don't think it's looking for an international audience. It's only a little bit extra to go to one of the better-known Spanish business schools, and the higher wages resulting from the extra quality of their students will more then cover the additional tuition fees.

No. I don't think it's looking for an international audience. It's only a little bit extra to go to one of the better-known Spanish business schools, and the higher wages resulting from the extra quality of their students will more then cover the additional tuition fees.
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grvbose

thank you for the reply. Can anyone tell me about the job prospects in ESERP?

thank you for the reply. Can anyone tell me about the job prospects in ESERP?
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Duncan

They will be terrible right now. Unemployment is really high in Spain, even in Catalonia. Even talented people are struggling to find work. The ESERP programme is taught in the evenings because it's aimed at people already in work. Internationally, employers will not take an unaccredited MBA very seriously and -- of course -- employers are not coming to hire from a course that's aimed at people already in work.

If you have one year and 10000 euro to spend in Spain, then take an MSc at UPF or Carlos III

They will be terrible right now. Unemployment is really high in Spain, even in Catalonia. Even talented people are struggling to find work. The ESERP programme is taught in the evenings because it's aimed at people already in work. Internationally, employers will not take an unaccredited MBA very seriously and -- of course -- employers are not coming to hire from a course that's aimed at people already in work.

If you have one year and 10000 euro to spend in Spain, then take an MSc at UPF or Carlos III
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grvbose

Thanks a ton.

Thanks a ton.
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PFBB

Hi everyone,

I was very happy to see the post of Duncan about ESERP, because I was about to do this MBA when I saw that they didn't have international accreditation. Then I went looking for the other mentioned courses: UPF and Carlos.

Well, Carlos is Madrid, which makes it impossible to me as I live and work in Barcelona (and the whole idea of doing a part-time MBA is to continue working). And UPF's fees are far from ?10,000, they're almost ?25,000.

I was wondering if someone could refer a MBA to me that costs max. ?15,000 and has international accreditation (mainly considering Europe), it could be online or in Barcelona. I hope I'm not looking for the impossible combination...

Thanks anyway for your help!

Cheers,
Priscila

Hi everyone,

I was very happy to see the post of Duncan about ESERP, because I was about to do this MBA when I saw that they didn't have international accreditation. Then I went looking for the other mentioned courses: UPF and Carlos.

Well, Carlos is Madrid, which makes it impossible to me as I live and work in Barcelona (and the whole idea of doing a part-time MBA is to continue working). And UPF's fees are far from ?10,000, they're almost ?25,000.

I was wondering if someone could refer a MBA to me that costs max. ?15,000 and has international accreditation (mainly considering Europe), it could be online or in Barcelona. I hope I'm not looking for the impossible combination...

Thanks anyway for your help!

Cheers,
Priscila
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Masood Sah...

hi priscila

look at distance learning mba's.. you can look at schools globally that way...

hi priscila

look at distance learning mba's.. you can look at schools globally that way...
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Duncan

I was recommending an *MSc* for 10,000, but there are some great online MBAs at top UK universities like Durham and Warwick which are really great value for money.

I was recommending an *MSc* for 10,000, but there are some great online MBAs at top UK universities like Durham and Warwick which are really great value for money.
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maubia

about online you can look this article

http://media.economist.com/media/WMBA/WMBA_Special_2010b.pdf

almost the best one are listed here.

about online you can look this article

http://media.economist.com/media/WMBA/WMBA_Special_2010b.pdf

almost the best one are listed here.
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maubia

1) Durham 16000e + 8w+800e(around) = 23000e
2) Euro*MBA 26000e+ 6*800(around) = 31000e
3) Warwick = 21500e + 4*800 = 25000e


here are some calculations i ve been doing in this period .. about Durham you can save something since the 8workshops are not mandatory. Manchester is close to Warwick (you must add something for the 8 exams you must take in both courses).
If I remember well you can save something at Bradford

1) Durham 16000e + 8w+800e(around) = 23000e
2) Euro*MBA 26000e+ 6*800(around) = 31000e
3) Warwick = 21500e + 4*800 = 25000e


here are some calculations i ve been doing in this period .. about Durham you can save something since the 8workshops are not mandatory. Manchester is close to Warwick (you must add something for the 8 exams you must take in both courses).
If I remember well you can save something at Bradford
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