ESCP Msc Digital Project Management - Vs - Vlerick MGM - Vs - AMS MIM


Viren

Greetings to all at Find-MBA forum,
I have been admitted to three programs
1) ESCP - Msc Digital Project Management & Consulting - Spain
2) Vlerick Business School - Masters in General Management - Belgium
3) Antwerp Management School - Masters in Management - Belgium

I am from India with a Production engineering degree. I have no knowledge of Spanish, French or Dutch but completely fluent in English & wiling to learn any language in the course of my program.

I am seeking your kind guidance about which will be the best choice among these programs solely based on the job prospects in University campus country or Europe as a whole. So like which University & its program will be the best for placements as of International students.
Thanks

Greetings to all at Find-MBA forum,
I have been admitted to three programs
1) ESCP - Msc Digital Project Management & Consulting - Spain
2) Vlerick Business School - Masters in General Management - Belgium
3) Antwerp Management School - Masters in Management - Belgium

I am from India with a Production engineering degree. I have no knowledge of Spanish, French or Dutch but completely fluent in English & wiling to learn any language in the course of my program.

I am seeking your kind guidance about which will be the best choice among these programs solely based on the job prospects in University campus country or Europe as a whole. So like which University & its program will be the best for placements as of International students.
Thanks
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Duncan

If you are able to learn a language to a professional level while taking an intensive degree taught in English, then you should skip the degree and instead franchise your language learning method. Retire early. 

Take a look at 

Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
also see

https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915

If you are able to learn a language to a professional level while taking an intensive degree taught in English, then you should skip the degree and instead franchise your language learning method. Retire early.&nbsp;<br><br>Take a look at&nbsp;
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</div><div>Do you need to speak the local language?&nbsp;www.find-mba.com/board/34713
</div><div>also see</div><br><br>https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915<br><br><div>
</div><div>
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Viren

If you are able to learn a language to a professional level while taking an intensive degree taught in English, then you should skip the degree and instead franchise your language learning method. Retire early. 

Take a look at 

Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
also see

https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915





Hey Duncan, Thanks for the reply.
I understood about the language part but actually I also wanted to change industry from manufacturing to digital Industries like Business analytics, Consulting, FMCG / Digital Project Management etc. & hence had opted for these three options which support a transition.
Henceforth I have made up my mind to do both language & masters together to save time.
I have seen your previous post about French Business School being better for International Student placements if compared to Belgium or German top tiers. So just wanted to confirm with your quick pick between the three. So would it be ESCP only? 
Even after considering that the ESCP Digital Project Mngmt. & Consulting program is new, unranked & majorly focused for the Spanish job market which has seen it’s downs & ups throughout the last decade. Also for the fact that Spain is not the home country to ESCP Career Services potential.Whereas in case of VBS & AMS programs - they are old, ranked & have home advantage.
Thanks again for your kind consideration.

[quote]If you are able to learn a language to a professional level while taking an intensive degree taught in English, then you should skip the degree and instead franchise your language learning method. Retire early.&nbsp;<br><br>Take a look at&nbsp;
<div>
</div><div>Do you need to speak the local language?&nbsp;www.find-mba.com/board/34713
</div><div>also see</div><br><br>https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915<br><br><div>
</div><div>
</div> [/quote]<br><br>Hey Duncan, Thanks for the reply.
<div>I understood about the language part but actually I also wanted to change industry from manufacturing to digital Industries like Business analytics, Consulting, FMCG / Digital Project Management etc. &amp; hence had opted for these three options which support a transition.
</div><div>Henceforth I have made up my mind to do both language &amp; masters together to save time.
</div><div>I have seen your previous post about French Business School being better for International Student placements if compared to Belgium or German top tiers. So just wanted to confirm with your quick pick between the three. So would it be ESCP only?&nbsp;</div><br><div>Even after considering that the ESCP Digital Project Mngmt. &amp; Consulting program is new, unranked &amp; majorly focused for the Spanish job market which has seen it’s downs &amp; ups throughout the last decade. Also for the fact that Spain is not the home country to ESCP Career Services potential.</div><div>Whereas in case of VBS &amp; AMS programs - they are old, ranked &amp; have home advantage.
</div><div>Thanks again for your kind consideration.</div>
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Viren

Hey Dunan, Please let me know about the same as per your convenience.

Hey Dunan, Please let me know about the same as per your convenience.
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Duncan

I can't recommend any of these options to you, for the reasons advanced in 'Do you need to speak the local language?'. Study in the province where you want to work, having first learnt the local language to a high professional fluency.

I can't recommend any of these options to you, for the reasons advanced in 'Do you need to speak the local language?'. Study in the province where you want to work, having first learnt the local language to a high professional fluency.
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aslamo

If you are able to learn a language to a professional level while taking an intensive degree taught in English, then you should skip the degree and instead franchise your language learning method. Retire early. 

Take a look at 



Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

also see

https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915







Hey Duncan, Thanks for the reply.

I understood about the language part but actually I also wanted to change industry from manufacturing to digital Industries like Business analytics, Consulting, FMCG / Digital Project Management etc. & hence had opted for these three options which support a transition.

Henceforth I have made up my mind to do both language & masters together to save time.

I have seen your previous post about French Business School being better for International Student placements if compared to Belgium or German top tiers. So just wanted to confirm with your quick pick between the three. So would it be ESCP only? 
Even after considering that the ESCP Digital Project Mngmt. & Consulting program is new, unranked & majorly focused for the Spanish job market which has seen it’s downs & ups throughout the last decade. Also for the fact that Spain is not the home country to ESCP Career Services potential.Whereas in case of VBS & AMS programs - they are old, ranked & have home advantage.

Thanks again for your kind consideration.


You say you want to switch from manufacturing to 'digital' industries but there is already a big move in manufacturing towards becoming much more digital, commonly known as 'Industry 4.0' 

This covers smart factories, Internet of Things (IoT), AI etc. It might be worth you re-evaluating because speaking as someone who originally worked in manufacturing and supply chain roles but switched to technology 20 years ago, manufacturing seems like an exciting place to be right now. 

[Edited by aslamo on Jul 30, 2021]

[quote][quote]If you are able to learn a language to a professional level while taking an intensive degree taught in English, then you should skip the degree and instead franchise your language learning method. Retire early.&nbsp;<br><br>Take a look at&nbsp;<br>
<div><br>
</div><div>Do you need to speak the local language?&nbsp;www.find-mba.com/board/34713<br>
</div><div>also see</div><br><br>https://find-mba.com/board/general-forum/best-msc-mim-degrees-for-international-students-placement-52915<br><br><div><br>
</div><div><br>
</div> [/quote]<br><br>Hey Duncan, Thanks for the reply. <br>
<div>I understood about the language part but actually I also wanted to change industry from manufacturing to digital Industries like Business analytics, Consulting, FMCG / Digital Project Management etc. &amp; hence had opted for these three options which support a transition. <br>
</div><div>Henceforth I have made up my mind to do both language &amp; masters together to save time. <br>
</div><div>I have seen your previous post about French Business School being better for International Student placements if compared to Belgium or German top tiers. So just wanted to confirm with your quick pick between the three. So would it be ESCP only?&nbsp;</div><br><div>Even after considering that the ESCP Digital Project Mngmt. &amp; Consulting program is new, unranked &amp; majorly focused for the Spanish job market which has seen it’s downs &amp; ups throughout the last decade. Also for the fact that Spain is not the home country to ESCP Career Services potential.</div><div>Whereas in case of VBS &amp; AMS programs - they are old, ranked &amp; have home advantage. <br>
</div><div>Thanks again for your kind consideration.</div> [/quote]<br><br>You say you want to switch from manufacturing to 'digital' industries but there is already a big move in manufacturing towards becoming much more digital, commonly known as 'Industry 4.0'&nbsp;<br><br>This covers smart factories, Internet of Things (IoT), AI etc. It might be worth you re-evaluating because speaking as someone who originally worked in manufacturing and supply chain roles but switched to technology 20 years ago, manufacturing seems like an exciting place to be right now.&nbsp;
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aslamo

The courses you have offers for are very different i.e. digital project management and consulting and general management.

I would err more towards a generalist business degree. There's no need for a masters degree to be a digital project manager. In fact, there's no need to even have a degree to be one. I've hired lots of project managers to work for me in the past and prefer people without second degrees. You're better off getting one of the recognised project management certifications like PRINCE2, PMP etc that will be a fraction of the price of a masters degree and frankly, a lot more useful on most projects.

The courses you have offers for are very different i.e. digital project management and consulting and general management.<br><br>I would err more towards a generalist business degree. There's no need for a masters degree to be a digital project manager. In fact, there's no need to even have a degree to be one. I've hired lots of project managers to work for me in the past and prefer people without second degrees. You're better off getting one of the recognised project management certifications like PRINCE2, PMP etc that will be a fraction of the price of a masters degree and frankly, a lot more useful on most projects.
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