aarhus vs Neoma vs german schools -advice needed to choose a bschool


harsha

hi all...
i got admit in Aarhus b-school MBA, esc rennes(Msc), NEOMA B school MBA, MBA in Berlin school of economics and law, Furtwangen MBA, and IBC MBA offenburg(conditional). I have 3 years experience in an SME in India. I just wanted to work for 2-3 years in Europe and come back to my country. Can anyone advice me... My objective is to get into a school with very good learning environment...and international reputation....
thank you...

hi all...
i got admit in Aarhus b-school MBA, esc rennes(Msc), NEOMA B school MBA, MBA in Berlin school of economics and law, Furtwangen MBA, and IBC MBA offenburg(conditional). I have 3 years experience in an SME in India. I just wanted to work for 2-3 years in Europe and come back to my country. Can anyone advice me... My objective is to get into a school with very good learning environment...and international reputation....
thank you...
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Duncan

I don't think that Aarhus or Berlin claim to have strong placement for international students, so I would exclude them. Furtwangen and Offenburg are average regional schools without accreditation, so they are better. ESC Rennes ranks much lower than NEOMA's component schools, and since the MBA is an better qualification I would suggest that.

I don't think that Aarhus or Berlin claim to have strong placement for international students, so I would exclude them. Furtwangen and Offenburg are average regional schools without accreditation, so they are better. ESC Rennes ranks much lower than NEOMA's component schools, and since the MBA is an better qualification I would suggest that.
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Hello Mr Duncan once again..my husband wishes to do an MBA now. He has been living in Germany for 10 years now and speaks fluent German and English. He wishes to move more towards management and out of the domain of Automotive. He holds a Masters Degree.Which MBA will be best for him. We are looking at Part time MBAs. We are looking at career change from IT Automotive to Management. Could you please suggest something ?

Hello Mr Duncan once again..my husband wishes to do an MBA now. He has been living in Germany for 10 years now and speaks fluent German and English. He wishes to move more towards management and out of the domain of Automotive. He holds a Masters Degree.Which MBA will be best for him. We are looking at Part time MBAs. We are looking at career change from IT Automotive to Management. Could you please suggest something ?
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Duncan

I think the HHL-Munich EMBA in innovation sounds like the perfect programme.

I think the HHL-Munich EMBA in innovation sounds like the perfect programme.
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Well, I had a look at this programme. However, this programme does not feature on any FT Rankings. I may be wrong.
Is this programme internationally recognized ?
Will doing an MBA from top Colleges make more difference in terms of change in profile, international options and salary ?

As of now we would like to live in Germany as he is a resident and we are planning to relocate 5 years down the line back to India.
Any piece of advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance.

Well, I had a look at this programme. However, this programme does not feature on any FT Rankings. I may be wrong.
Is this programme internationally recognized ?
Will doing an MBA from top Colleges make more difference in terms of change in profile, international options and salary ?

As of now we would like to live in Germany as he is a resident and we are planning to relocate 5 years down the line back to India.
Any piece of advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance.
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Duncan

There is no internationally-ranked business school in Bavaria, which is what I thought you were asking about. The Munich programme once led to an EMBA from HHL, which is a well-respected EMBA, ranked number 31 in Europe (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/hhl-leipzig-gsm). Now it's run by the TUM. If you are looking for international recognition, then the Euro*MBA or Kellogg-WHU programmes are excellent options.

There is no internationally-ranked business school in Bavaria, which is what I thought you were asking about. The Munich programme once led to an EMBA from HHL, which is a well-respected EMBA, ranked number 31 in Europe (http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/hhl-leipzig-gsm). Now it's run by the TUM. If you are looking for international recognition, then the Euro*MBA or Kellogg-WHU programmes are excellent options.
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As I mentioned we are looking at Executive MBA or part time MBA in Europe which have international recognition and can make us achieve the professional shift. As he has no financial or economics background, our aim is learning Business Economics as well. Please let me know your preferences in some order so we can short list some colleges as per our budget and accessibility. Thank you so much !!!

As I mentioned we are looking at Executive MBA or part time MBA in Europe which have international recognition and can make us achieve the professional shift. As he has no financial or economics background, our aim is learning Business Economics as well. Please let me know your preferences in some order so we can short list some colleges as per our budget and accessibility. Thank you so much !!!
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Duncan

Well, I would aim at the top German MBAs: WHU, HHL, Mannheim and also HSG. All of those schools have dual degree international options if you want visibility outside Germany.

I just checked the Munich programme, and I see that UC Berkley has replaced HHL as the partner, which means the degree now comes from TUM. That's not so desirable.

Well, I would aim at the top German MBAs: WHU, HHL, Mannheim and also HSG. All of those schools have dual degree international options if you want visibility outside Germany.

I just checked the Munich programme, and I see that UC Berkley has replaced HHL as the partner, which means the degree now comes from TUM. That's not so desirable.
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Thanks for the advice. Could you please tell which MBA would be better Executive or Part time. Could you arrange these colleges in an order of preference.
Our aim is:
1. To learn more and spend maximum time in clasees as we have no background of economics and Finance.
2. To make a shift from IT to Management.
3. Ofcourse Salary hike.
4. Within the range of our budget (40,000 Euros).
5. International Modules in top colleges.
6. Visibilty inside and outside Europe.

Regards.

Thanks for the advice. Could you please tell which MBA would be better Executive or Part time. Could you arrange these colleges in an order of preference.
Our aim is:
1. To learn more and spend maximum time in clasees as we have no background of economics and Finance.
2. To make a shift from IT to Management.
3. Ofcourse Salary hike.
4. Within the range of our budget (40,000 Euros).
5. International Modules in top colleges.
6. Visibilty inside and outside Europe.

Regards.
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Duncan

To do that well would really take me an hour or so, and I have to focus my time on clients. But my first thought is that the Mannheim part-time MBA is the best choice for you. I think it's a bit more quantitative than WHU. The Euro*MBA has the best international profile.

To do that well would really take me an hour or so, and I have to focus my time on clients. But my first thought is that the Mannheim part-time MBA is the best choice for you. I think it's a bit more quantitative than WHU. The Euro*MBA has the best international profile.
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I completely understand, just thought if you can help. Thanks for all the advice. I spoke to Mannheim as they have their Open Day for Part time MBA and they suggested to go for ESSEC-Mannheim MBA instead of Part time as my husband possess almost 10 years of experience. They said that part time is for people with 3-6 years of experience. What would you say ?
Regards.

I completely understand, just thought if you can help. Thanks for all the advice. I spoke to Mannheim as they have their Open Day for Part time MBA and they suggested to go for ESSEC-Mannheim MBA instead of Part time as my husband possess almost 10 years of experience. They said that part time is for people with 3-6 years of experience. What would you say ?
Regards.
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Duncan

That's a good MBA, but it's over your budget. The part-time MBA has a lot more time in class...

That's a good MBA, but it's over your budget. The part-time MBA has a lot more time in class...
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Duncan

thank you for your support

Duncan

thank you for your support
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Hello Mr Duncan,

What is your assessment for the HEC Part time Program against the part time program at Mannheim, WHU or HHL ?

http://www.mba.hec.edu/Learning-Experience/Part-time


Thanks.

Hello Mr Duncan,

What is your assessment for the HEC Part time Program against the part time program at Mannheim, WHU or HHL ?

http://www.mba.hec.edu/Learning-Experience/Part-time


Thanks.
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Duncan

I think these programmes are represented fairly in the rankings.

I think these programmes are represented fairly in the rankings.
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Yes you are righ. I see HEC is in the upper Tier than the German schools. However, I am looking at the chances of getting an employment in Germany after HEC.

Yes you are righ. I see HEC is in the upper Tier than the German schools. However, I am looking at the chances of getting an employment in Germany after HEC.
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Please advise if it is better to stick to German school if I am looking at working in Germany or an MBA from an Internationally recognized school like HEC, Paris would also be perfect. As German business school are not well renowned internationally, I am looking at good schools in Europe which would increase the chances of getting employed in Germany and are also internationally recognized in the long run. I shall be thankful if someone can really answer this for me.

Please advise if it is better to stick to German school if I am looking at working in Germany or an MBA from an Internationally recognized school like HEC, Paris would also be perfect. As German business school are not well renowned internationally, I am looking at good schools in Europe which would increase the chances of getting employed in Germany and are also internationally recognized in the long run. I shall be thankful if someone can really answer this for me.
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Duncan

I think a full-time MBA is better if you want to move countries. And if you are choosing between France and Germany, pick the one where you have the better language skills. See: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713

I think a full-time MBA is better if you want to move countries. And if you are choosing between France and Germany, pick the one where you have the better language skills. See: Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713
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I am doing German B1 and would not like to learn French now. By the time I finish MBA in 2 years, I will be done with German C1 or C2.
I just see the HEC MBA is more attatctive in following ways:
1. Every month one week increases learning and classroom time compared to 13 Modules in 2 years in Mannheim.
2. We can convert the part time to full time in 2nd Year in HEC but not in Mannheim.
3. International Semester for specialisation in HEC on full time basis while in Mannheim only 2 weeks residencies.
4. Not much of career services are offered to part time in Maanheim .
5. HEC-Stern seems to be an attarctive offer for dual MBA.

What is you viewpoint ?

My worries:
Will it be difficult to take up a job in Germany after studying from French school ???

I am doing German B1 and would not like to learn French now. By the time I finish MBA in 2 years, I will be done with German C1 or C2.
I just see the HEC MBA is more attatctive in following ways:
1. Every month one week increases learning and classroom time compared to 13 Modules in 2 years in Mannheim.
2. We can convert the part time to full time in 2nd Year in HEC but not in Mannheim.
3. International Semester for specialisation in HEC on full time basis while in Mannheim only 2 weeks residencies.
4. Not much of career services are offered to part time in Maanheim .
5. HEC-Stern seems to be an attarctive offer for dual MBA.

What is you viewpoint ?

My worries:
Will it be difficult to take up a job in Germany after studying from French school ???

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Duncan

The grande ecoles are well respected in Germany, but in practice I guess HEC places more people into the US and UK than Germany. I am not sure that employers come to HEC to fill Germany vacancies.

I'm also worried about how realistic an EMBA is, generally, and exactly how you would run your job search. Educationally, I agree with you that the HEC is a better option. But in reality, where would you live and how would you develop your job search? With Mannheim I can see it easily: you'd move to Mannheim, make the most of the network and perhaps find an opportunity with a classmate's firm.

The grande ecoles are well respected in Germany, but in practice I guess HEC places more people into the US and UK than Germany. I am not sure that employers come to HEC to fill Germany vacancies.

I'm also worried about how realistic an EMBA is, generally, and exactly how you would run your job search. Educationally, I agree with you that the HEC is a better option. But in reality, where would you live and how would you develop your job search? With Mannheim I can see it easily: you'd move to Mannheim, make the most of the network and perhaps find an opportunity with a classmate's firm.
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