MBS vs AGSM vs HKUST vs HKU (x-post in AUS-NZ)


ohvina

Hi there,
I am considering the 4 b-schools MBS, AGSM, HKUST & HKU. I am particularly interested in knowing how the 4 schools are viewed in 1) Australia, 2) Asia (Hong Kong & China), 3) USA & Canada & 4) Europe.
Thanks.
ohvina

Hi there,
I am considering the 4 b-schools MBS, AGSM, HKUST & HKU. I am particularly interested in knowing how the 4 schools are viewed in 1) Australia, 2) Asia (Hong Kong & China), 3) USA & Canada & 4) Europe.
Thanks.
ohvina
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Duncan

I think they are viewed more or less in line with rankings produced in those respective region. Personally, I would rank them in the order of salary: HKUST > AGSM > MBS > HKU.

I think they are viewed more or less in line with rankings produced in those respective region. Personally, I would rank them in the order of salary: HKUST > AGSM > MBS > HKU.
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Hi there,
I am considering the 4 b-schools MBS, AGSM, HKUST & HKU. I am particularly interested in knowing how the 4 schools are viewed in 1) Australia, 2) Asia (Hong Kong & China), 3) USA & Canada & 4) Europe.
Thanks.
ohvina


(1) In Australia, it's true that AGSM and MBS are more well known than all other Australian bus schools. MBS may be slightly better recognised, but not by much. INSEAD is perhaps not as widely known, but it is held in high regard. HKUST is unknown.

(2) In Asia, you can't go past INSEAD. The Australian schools are pretty much unknown. HKUST is well known in Hong Kong but in other parts of Asia you'll get "Where? HKU?" if you mention HKUST.

(3) In USA and Canada, of the four you've mentioned the only school which will get your any recognition is INSEAD.

(4) Ditto for Europe.

In my answers, I've indicated recognition/reputation amongst what I would call a "relevant audience" - those in the business community, those recruiting managerial/exec staff, those familiar with business education.

<blockquote>Hi there,
I am considering the 4 b-schools MBS, AGSM, HKUST & HKU. I am particularly interested in knowing how the 4 schools are viewed in 1) Australia, 2) Asia (Hong Kong & China), 3) USA & Canada & 4) Europe.
Thanks.
ohvina</blockquote>

(1) In Australia, it's true that AGSM and MBS are more well known than all other Australian bus schools. MBS may be slightly better recognised, but not by much. INSEAD is perhaps not as widely known, but it is held in high regard. HKUST is unknown.

(2) In Asia, you can't go past INSEAD. The Australian schools are pretty much unknown. HKUST is well known in Hong Kong but in other parts of Asia you'll get "Where? HKU?" if you mention HKUST.

(3) In USA and Canada, of the four you've mentioned the only school which will get your any recognition is INSEAD.

(4) Ditto for Europe.

In my answers, I've indicated recognition/reputation amongst what I would call a "relevant audience" - those in the business community, those recruiting managerial/exec staff, those familiar with business education.
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Duncan

HKUST actually has a pretty strong international presence: not bad for a ten year old school. Its alumni network in the US is as strong as in mainland China, and it also has notable concentrations in Singapore, the UK, Canada and Germany. Major employers of HKUST people in those countries are Deloitte, BCG, Standard Chartered, PwC, JP Morgan, AmEx and Barclays Capital.

I think Kelvin is right that in general Australian commerce HKUST is quite unknown, and has only a modest base in multinational finance and consulting firms in Sydney.

PS I think it's a little sweeping to say that in Asia you can't go past INSEAD. The top US, Australian and Singaporean schools have a good base in most countries but, again, it's inside the multinational employers. To tap into the local firms, the leading local universities have the base there.

HKUST actually has a pretty strong international presence: not bad for a ten year old school. Its alumni network in the US is as strong as in mainland China, and it also has notable concentrations in Singapore, the UK, Canada and Germany. Major employers of HKUST people in those countries are Deloitte, BCG, Standard Chartered, PwC, JP Morgan, AmEx and Barclays Capital.

I think Kelvin is right that in general Australian commerce HKUST is quite unknown, and has only a modest base in multinational finance and consulting firms in Sydney.

PS I think it's a little sweeping to say that in Asia you can't go past INSEAD. The top US, Australian and Singaporean schools have a good base in most countries but, again, it's inside the multinational employers. To tap into the local firms, the leading local universities have the base there.
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donho199

HKUST base is very strong in Singapore I can confirm. This is an excellent concerted effort of HKUST to leverage on its EMBA with Kellogg and Master in finance with Stern.

Their alumni are in senior positions in Singapore banks.

HKUST base is very strong in Singapore I can confirm. This is an excellent concerted effort of HKUST to leverage on its EMBA with Kellogg and Master in finance with Stern.

Their alumni are in senior positions in Singapore banks.
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HKUST actually has a pretty strong international presence: not bad for a ten year old school. Its alumni network in the US is as strong as in mainland China, and it also has notable concentrations in Singapore, the UK, Canada and Germany. Major employers of HKUST people in those countries are Deloitte, BCG, Standard Chartered, PwC, JP Morgan, AmEx and Barclays Capital.


I'm surprised you see HKUST as being this well known. In fact, a joke amongst some former HKUST MBA students I know is that they call it the "HKwhoST MBA". I know for a fact the top tier consulting firms don't bother recruiting on campus and I think maybe just 1 student (out of the FT and PT classes in each of the last two years) joined a top consulting firm. They're certainly strong in finance in HK, but this is probably a consequence of their very strong Finance department rather than the MBA.

I agree local universities are better if you want a local position. Of course, many wanting an MBA want it so it enhances their global flexibility. So it's a trade-off, I suppose.

<blockquote>HKUST actually has a pretty strong international presence: not bad for a ten year old school. Its alumni network in the US is as strong as in mainland China, and it also has notable concentrations in Singapore, the UK, Canada and Germany. Major employers of HKUST people in those countries are Deloitte, BCG, Standard Chartered, PwC, JP Morgan, AmEx and Barclays Capital.</blockquote>

I'm surprised you see HKUST as being this well known. In fact, a joke amongst some former HKUST MBA students I know is that they call it the "HKwhoST MBA". I know for a fact the top tier consulting firms don't bother recruiting on campus and I think maybe just 1 student (out of the FT and PT classes in each of the last two years) joined a top consulting firm. They're certainly strong in finance in HK, but this is probably a consequence of their very strong Finance department rather than the MBA.

I agree local universities are better if you want a local position. Of course, many wanting an MBA want it so it enhances their global flexibility. So it's a trade-off, I suppose.
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Duncan

Search the board for my recent comment about " the new normal". Recruitment on campus isn't the central mode for recruitment outside the US and India.

Search the board for my recent comment about " the new normal". Recruitment on campus isn't the central mode for recruitment outside the US and India.
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mjohnson

The UCLA NUS Executive MBA Program is not as advertised and a junior management training program more than anything. They allow a substantial percentage of their class in with little experience and far from stellar academic backgrounds. In terms of expectations, not met in anyway way what so ever. Don't believe the hype for it is a money grab and the program run by an ego-maniac based in Singapore. The program is not world class and they are very disorganized in managing the basic elements of the program. The career coach in Singapore is not helpful (might be able to assist with getting an internship at Goldman Sachs) and at UCLA they stated the contract for the career counselor, who was dedicated to our specific program, unfortunately just expired.

The UCLA NUS Executive MBA Program is not as advertised and a junior management training program more than anything. They allow a substantial percentage of their class in with little experience and far from stellar academic backgrounds. In terms of expectations, not met in anyway way what so ever. Don't believe the hype for it is a money grab and the program run by an ego-maniac based in Singapore. The program is not world class and they are very disorganized in managing the basic elements of the program. The career coach in Singapore is not helpful (might be able to assist with getting an internship at Goldman Sachs) and at UCLA they stated the contract for the career counselor, who was dedicated to our specific program, unfortunately just expired.
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Duncan

This thread is about MBS vs AGSM vs HKUST vs HKU. Please don't repeatedly post the same off-topic comment.

This thread is about MBS vs AGSM vs HKUST vs HKU. Please don't repeatedly post the same off-topic comment.
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ezra

The UCLA NUS Executive MBA Program is not as advertised and a junior management training program more than anything.

I don't know, the FT's rankings show a pretty good return on investment for the program. Sounds like this might be just somebody with a grudge.

<blockquote>The UCLA NUS Executive MBA Program is not as advertised and a junior management training program more than anything.</blockquote>
I don't know, the FT's rankings show a pretty good return on investment for the program. Sounds like this might be just somebody with a grudge.
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