MBA program A tough choice to make


gshaw2110
I have zeroed in some of the colleges and i need an expert advice on it .Eventually I wish to work in India after some international exposure. The colleges which I have in mind are
1. Sp jain mgb program
2. Sauder early career masters
3. MISB bocconi PGPB program
4.IMT Dubai
Kindly give an overview on following factors
1.Value of the degree both in India and abroad
2.Return of investment
3. Corporate tie ups/placements
4. Application of knowledge in the Asian economies
Any help will be very useful
I have zeroed in some of the colleges and i need an expert advice on it .Eventually I wish to work in India after some international exposure. The colleges which I have in mind are
1. Sp jain mgb program
2. Sauder early career masters
3. MISB bocconi PGPB program
4.IMT Dubai
Kindly give an overview on following factors
1.Value of the degree both in India and abroad
2.Return of investment
3. Corporate tie ups/placements
4. Application of knowledge in the Asian economies
Any help will be very useful
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saroo
I have zeroed in some of the colleges and i need an expert advice on it .Eventually I wish to work in India after some international exposure. The colleges which I have in mind are
1. Sp jain mgb program
2. Sauder early career masters
3. MISB bocconi PGPB program
4.IMT Dubai
Kindly give an overview on following factors
1.Value of the degree both in India and abroad
2.Return of investment
3. Corporate tie ups/placements
4. Application of knowledge in the Asian economies
Any help will be very useful


I am not know about other but spJain is very good famous in dubai
<blockquote>I have zeroed in some of the colleges and i need an expert advice on it .Eventually I wish to work in India after some international exposure. The colleges which I have in mind are
1. Sp jain mgb program
2. Sauder early career masters
3. MISB bocconi PGPB program
4.IMT Dubai
Kindly give an overview on following factors
1.Value of the degree both in India and abroad
2.Return of investment
3. Corporate tie ups/placements
4. Application of knowledge in the Asian economies
Any help will be very useful</blockquote>

I am not know about other but spJain is very good famous in dubai
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mba hipste...
I wouldn't consider the IMT program since it's not accredited by an organization like AACSB, AMBA, or EQUIS.

I'd think that your choice would be between SP Jain and Bocconi. The SP Jain program is good because you can convert it to an MBA after you get some work experience and go back for some additional modules. An MBA would be much better in terms of career growth and salary in the long-term. Plus, SP Jain has a good network in India.

The Bocconi program is solid, but they're less established in India. They've got good networks elsewhere though - in Europe especially.

You might consider the Sauder program if you're looking for an international experience above all else. But I'd be critical and ask them about placements in India.
I wouldn't consider the IMT program since it's not accredited by an organization like AACSB, AMBA, or EQUIS.

I'd think that your choice would be between SP Jain and Bocconi. The SP Jain program is good because you can convert it to an MBA after you get some work experience and go back for some additional modules. An MBA would be much better in terms of career growth and salary in the long-term. Plus, SP Jain has a good network in India.

The Bocconi program is solid, but they're less established in India. They've got good networks elsewhere though - in Europe especially.

You might consider the Sauder program if you're looking for an international experience above all else. But I'd be critical and ask them about placements in India.
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gshaw2110
Thanks for the reply..
Could you please give me an insight about the MISB Bocconi PGPB program. How do you see it progressing in the next few years in India. I know it is relatively new program but I was impressed with there curriculum. Do you believe that SDA network with leading companies around the world will help MISB as well. Also how do you consider its reputation among st the Italian companies in India.
Thanks for the reply..
Could you please give me an insight about the MISB Bocconi PGPB program. How do you see it progressing in the next few years in India. I know it is relatively new program but I was impressed with there curriculum. Do you believe that SDA network with leading companies around the world will help MISB as well. Also how do you consider its reputation among st the Italian companies in India.
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mba hipste...
I'd say it wouldn't provide the same kind of robust career progression as Bocconi's traditional MBA program. Since it is still relatively new, it's really hard to gauge its viability in India.

As for Italian companies in India, why not do some research? Look at LinkedIn (or go to company websites directly) to see if anybody's hiring PGPB grads.
I'd say it wouldn't provide the same kind of robust career progression as Bocconi's traditional MBA program. Since it is still relatively new, it's really hard to gauge its viability in India.

As for Italian companies in India, why not do some research? Look at LinkedIn (or go to company websites directly) to see if anybody's hiring PGPB grads.
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Duncan
A good idea but impractical, since this is the first year.
A good idea but impractical, since this is the first year.
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gshaw2110
Can someone please tell me that how risky is MISB proposition. I am impressed by the institute but is it worth a risk or should I go for other options. I have a scholarship from MISB as well hence I am really tempted to join it.
Can someone please tell me that how risky is MISB proposition. I am impressed by the institute but is it worth a risk or should I go for other options. I have a scholarship from MISB as well hence I am really tempted to join it.
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Duncan
I think it's very good to think about risk as well as about average outcomes My guess is that average salaries from MIBS will be good, but that the standard deviation will be wider. Because of the Western pedagogy, there may be a few students who crash and burn. However, there will be more students who are able to dramatically accelerate. It certainly is riskier than the average India PGDM course, but the NPV will be higher. That means the personal ability of the students to tolerate risk and ambiguity should be a factor in selection decisions.
I think it's very good to think about risk as well as about average outcomes My guess is that average salaries from MIBS will be good, but that the standard deviation will be wider. Because of the Western pedagogy, there may be a few students who crash and burn. However, there will be more students who are able to dramatically accelerate. It certainly is riskier than the average India PGDM course, but the NPV will be higher. That means the personal ability of the students to tolerate risk and ambiguity should be a factor in selection decisions.
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rashijain
So if I would like to talk about risk for freshers who would want to take this course,would you be kind enough to talk about how big a risk is it for them?
And when you talk about risk,what is the worst that you see happening to students who go with MISB?I mean what is the risk,can you elaborate.
So if I would like to talk about risk for freshers who would want to take this course,would you be kind enough to talk about how big a risk is it for them?
And when you talk about risk,what is the worst that you see happening to students who go with MISB?I mean what is the risk,can you elaborate.
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Duncan
I can only guess. I would imagine that the standard deviation on salaries will be higher, perhaps twice as high, as for the average of the top 10 business schools in India. Remember that risk is a technical term in a business setting, meaning how predictable the outcomes are. Outcomes are highly predictable from the top Indian schools. On average MIBS students will have similar outcomes, but some students will find the western educational approach hugely accelerates their career, and a few may find the MIBS experience highly objectionable.

Both admissions staff and candidates need to be careful to make sure there's a good understanding and fit. The IIMs are designed for a narrow layer of functional specialists with strong quantitative skills, weak soft skills and a strong preference for hierarchy. Bocconi, and top business schools in the West generally, consciously subvert that. In the west we think that diversity produces better decisions, that cross functional teams work best, that CAT scores are not the best predictors of leadership ability... and so on. I could imagine that an arrogant IIT graduate could have his self-confidence challenged, and would need to develop his self-awareness and EQ, during studies at Bocconi.
I can only guess. I would imagine that the standard deviation on salaries will be higher, perhaps twice as high, as for the average of the top 10 business schools in India. Remember that risk is a technical term in a business setting, meaning how predictable the outcomes are. Outcomes are highly predictable from the top Indian schools. On average MIBS students will have similar outcomes, but some students will find the western educational approach hugely accelerates their career, and a few may find the MIBS experience highly objectionable.

Both admissions staff and candidates need to be careful to make sure there's a good understanding and fit. The IIMs are designed for a narrow layer of functional specialists with strong quantitative skills, weak soft skills and a strong preference for hierarchy. Bocconi, and top business schools in the West generally, consciously subvert that. In the west we think that diversity produces better decisions, that cross functional teams work best, that CAT scores are not the best predictors of leadership ability... and so on. I could imagine that an arrogant IIT graduate could have his self-confidence challenged, and would need to develop his self-awareness and EQ, during studies at Bocconi.
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rashijain
As for gshaw2110..i think you have a tough choice between MISB and SPJain MGB so weight your pros and cons and then take a decision. As for your return we should ask Duncan in terms of numbers that if SPJains MGB program claims to have an average placement of 8-10lac indian rupees then what do you think the approx. will be for a MISB graduate?and do give your opinion about the prospect of the so called 100% placement you hear of at top Indian B schools happening at MISB.
As for gshaw2110..i think you have a tough choice between MISB and SPJain MGB so weight your pros and cons and then take a decision. As for your return we should ask Duncan in terms of numbers that if SPJains MGB program claims to have an average placement of 8-10lac indian rupees then what do you think the approx. will be for a MISB graduate?and do give your opinion about the prospect of the so called 100% placement you hear of at top Indian B schools happening at MISB.
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rashijain
As for gshaw2110..i think you have a tough choice between MISB and SPJain MGB so weight your pros and cons and then take a decision. As for your return we should ask Duncan in terms of numbers that if SPJains MGB program claims to have an average placement of 8-10lac indian rupees then what do you think the approx. will be for a MISB graduate?and do give your opinion about the prospect of the so called 100% placement you hear of at top Indian B schools happening at MISB.
As for gshaw2110..i think you have a tough choice between MISB and SPJain MGB so weight your pros and cons and then take a decision. As for your return we should ask Duncan in terms of numbers that if SPJains MGB program claims to have an average placement of 8-10lac indian rupees then what do you think the approx. will be for a MISB graduate?and do give your opinion about the prospect of the so called 100% placement you hear of at top Indian B schools happening at MISB.
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Duncan
I think I haven't made my point clearly enough: the difference with MIBS won't be the average salary; it will be in line with the top top schools in India. The difference will be that the graduates will have not only developed their knowledge but also extended their skills in the direction of a Western MBA. In that respect, SP Jain MGB will be similar because the students are outside India. However, because some students at SP Jain will find work outside India (most of the non-Indians, for example) the average salary will reflect the higher wages in the UAE, Singapore and Australia. Comparing the average wages is less useful than comparing the wages of the Indian students who take up jobs in India.

I don't think that MISB will have the sort of placement that the IIMs have, where most students are placed the year before they graduate. But if you want guaranteed employment, become a plumber. The real question is what sort of future you want. MIBS graduates maybe be deliberately choosing not to attend the IIMs.
I think I haven't made my point clearly enough: the difference with MIBS won't be the average salary; it will be in line with the top top schools in India. The difference will be that the graduates will have not only developed their knowledge but also extended their skills in the direction of a Western MBA. In that respect, SP Jain MGB will be similar because the students are outside India. However, because some students at SP Jain will find work outside India (most of the non-Indians, for example) the average salary will reflect the higher wages in the UAE, Singapore and Australia. Comparing the average wages is less useful than comparing the wages of the Indian students who take up jobs in India.

I don't think that MISB will have the sort of placement that the IIMs have, where most students are placed the year before they graduate. But if you want guaranteed employment, become a plumber. The real question is what sort of future you want. MIBS graduates maybe be deliberately choosing not to attend the IIMs.
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rashijain
Ahaan. Comprehended! I think I should put a lid to worrying so much and just take a call and stick to it. I hope that whatever you have predicted or rather most of it will come true. Thanks!
Ahaan. Comprehended! I think I should put a lid to worrying so much and just take a call and stick to it. I hope that whatever you have predicted or rather most of it will come true. Thanks!
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