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I hear consistently that CEIBS graduates get really good jobs in China based MNCs. Does anyone have some idea on what the job prospects for CEIBS graduates are in the other nearby growing economies like Singapore, India, Korea, etc? Is CEIBS recognized outside China?

I hear consistently that CEIBS graduates get really good jobs in China based MNCs. Does anyone have some idea on what the job prospects for CEIBS graduates are in the other nearby growing economies like Singapore, India, Korea, etc? Is CEIBS recognized outside China?
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Rhino

CEIBS is a regional MBA... just like HK-UST, NUS, NTU...

With CEIBS MBA, you'll be a big shot in shanghai...
but if you step outside china, you're basically a nobody...

Of course, if you build your network in China, and have 5+ years of work experiences in Shanghai, ... Everybody on this Planet, will love to hire you since everybody want to go into china...

also, if you study MBA in china, you can go ahead try your luck on entrepreneurship, it costs only ~US$10k to start a good business...

Best of luck!

CEIBS is a regional MBA... just like HK-UST, NUS, NTU...

With CEIBS MBA, you'll be a big shot in shanghai...
but if you step outside china, you're basically a nobody...

Of course, if you build your network in China, and have 5+ years of work experiences in Shanghai, ... Everybody on this Planet, will love to hire you since everybody want to go into china...

also, if you study MBA in china, you can go ahead try your luck on entrepreneurship, it costs only ~US$10k to start a good business...

Best of luck!
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D.jung

"CEIBS is a regional MBA" - i wouldn't say that. CEIBS is a highly ranked program, one of the leading in the world and the Alumni are amongst the best payed in the world. i think you stand a good chance of getting good jobs in Asia. in fact, 2 of the companies that recruit there the most are not chines: Tesco and michelin.

"CEIBS is a regional MBA" - i wouldn't say that. CEIBS is a highly ranked program, one of the leading in the world and the Alumni are amongst the best payed in the world. i think you stand a good chance of getting good jobs in Asia. in fact, 2 of the companies that recruit there the most are not chines: Tesco and michelin.
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"CEIBS is a regional MBA" - i wouldn't say that. CEIBS is a highly ranked program, one of the leading in the world and the Alumni are amongst the best payed in the world. i think you stand a good chance of getting good jobs in Asia. in fact, 2 of the companies that recruit there the most are not chines: Tesco and michelin.


tesco and michelin are hardly on anyones wish list.
for MNC placement in China, CEIBS and Tsinghua are very good .For anything to do with Finance/investment world have to go with HKUST.

<blockquote>"CEIBS is a regional MBA" - i wouldn't say that. CEIBS is a highly ranked program, one of the leading in the world and the Alumni are amongst the best payed in the world. i think you stand a good chance of getting good jobs in Asia. in fact, 2 of the companies that recruit there the most are not chines: Tesco and michelin. </blockquote>

tesco and michelin are hardly on anyones wish list.
for MNC placement in China, CEIBS and Tsinghua are very good .For anything to do with Finance/investment world have to go with HKUST.
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Rhino

Are you by any chance an HK-UST alumni ?

Recently I bought the Economist 'Which MBA?' Magz, and it's shown that most placement from HK-UST are AXA, cushman *something*.
They are also hardly on anyones wish list.

I believe Hong Kong Univ MBA program is one of the best program in Hong Kong, but how come nobody ever mention their name in this Forum.

Are you by any chance an HK-UST alumni ?

Recently I bought the Economist 'Which MBA?' Magz, and it's shown that most placement from HK-UST are AXA, cushman *something*.
They are also hardly on anyones wish list.

I believe Hong Kong Univ MBA program is one of the best program in Hong Kong, but how come nobody ever mention their name in this Forum.
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D.jung

i wouldn't say it wasn't mentioned in this forum - take a look at that:

http://www.find-mba.com/boardsearch/q/hku

i think the reason why HKUST is mentioned ofter has to do with the fact that it is still higher ranked(although they climbed in the economist rankings this year to 38). HKUST is also considered one of the best schools in china.

IMO anyone with a MBA out of the 3 above mentioned schools should have no problem getting a good job after finishing the degree - china is a very important market for almost all big multinationals, and people with knowledge of this market will be always welcomed.

i wouldn't say it wasn't mentioned in this forum - take a look at that:

http://www.find-mba.com/boardsearch/q/hku

i think the reason why HKUST is mentioned ofter has to do with the fact that it is still higher ranked(although they climbed in the economist rankings this year to 38). HKUST is also considered one of the best schools in china.

IMO anyone with a MBA out of the 3 above mentioned schools should have no problem getting a good job after finishing the degree - china is a very important market for almost all big multinationals, and people with knowledge of this market will be always welcomed.

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langdvg

yes you are right, ust is actually over marketed, i would say hku is the best in hong kong.

yes you are right, ust is actually over marketed, i would say hku is the best in hong kong.
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D.jung

do you care to elaborate? what are the reasons to make you belive that?
this is not a bushing, i am truly interested!

HKUST do seem to have a good marketing department, but i agree that it doesn't say anything about the quality of the school, and rankings can be misleading!
would you say hku is better because of the faculty? business connections? partnerships? ???
and also - is there a big difference in the price of the two programs?

do you care to elaborate? what are the reasons to make you belive that?
this is not a bushing, i am truly interested!

HKUST do seem to have a good marketing department, but i agree that it doesn't say anything about the quality of the school, and rankings can be misleading!
would you say hku is better because of the faculty? business connections? partnerships? ???
and also - is there a big difference in the price of the two programs?
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do you care to elaborate? what are the reasons to make you belive that?
this is not a bushing, i am truly interested!

HKUST do seem to have a good marketing department, but i agree that it doesn't say anything about the quality of the school, and rankings can be misleading!
would you say hku is better because of the faculty? business connections? partnerships? ???
and also - is there a big difference in the price of the two programs?


cmon people hkust vs hku, is that even a question?
just look at electives/professors listings. the only thing which might be attractive is a guaranteed exchange spot at lbs or columbia whereas at hkust you have many other choices but slots are not guaranteed.

i will admit it i had to look at what/who AXA is but certainly would take them over a tire and supermarket companies.

im applying to hkust, possibly insead as well but that would be a very optimistic scenario for me.

<blockquote>do you care to elaborate? what are the reasons to make you belive that?
this is not a bushing, i am truly interested!

HKUST do seem to have a good marketing department, but i agree that it doesn't say anything about the quality of the school, and rankings can be misleading!
would you say hku is better because of the faculty? business connections? partnerships? ???
and also - is there a big difference in the price of the two programs?</blockquote>

cmon people hkust vs hku, is that even a question?
just look at electives/professors listings. the only thing which might be attractive is a guaranteed exchange spot at lbs or columbia whereas at hkust you have many other choices but slots are not guaranteed.

i will admit it i had to look at what/who AXA is but certainly would take them over a tire and supermarket companies.

im applying to hkust, possibly insead as well but that would be a very optimistic scenario for me.


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langdvg

I live in Hong Kong, to tell you the truth, local people only see ust is no 3 university in hk in general, of course it is still the best three in hk, and it is nothing special to attend this school to the local people.

I live in Hong Kong, to tell you the truth, local people only see ust is no 3 university in hk in general, of course it is still the best three in hk, and it is nothing special to attend this school to the local people.
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Rhino

I am applying to HK-UST next month because their degree is recognized in asia, no matter you go. Better than any those Chinese MBA. HK-UST research centres for business are top notch, however the faculties are pretty unknown (expect this one guy called proffesor larry franklin, this guy is an ASSET to HK-UST).

I am applying to HK-UST next month because their degree is recognized in asia, no matter you go. Better than any those Chinese MBA. HK-UST research centres for business are top notch, however the faculties are pretty unknown (expect this one guy called proffesor larry franklin, this guy is an ASSET to HK-UST).
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I live in Hong Kong, to tell you the truth, local people only see ust is no 3 university in hk in general, of course it is still the best three in hk, and it is nothing special to attend this school to the local people.


i used to live and work in HK. concept of a business school in hk is relatively new and your average local on the street has no idea what an mba is. hong kong u is the oldest and most respected in hk thats true, but only in law/medicine/politics, things which are not taught at hkust but historically which have mattered most. etc. at the moment business ranking is as follows: hkust,cuhk,hku. i see hku passing cuhk at some point but it will never catch hkust, if anything hkust will eclipse hku in overall university prestige. at the end of the day, hkust's development model and focus on science and tech wins out big time.

another interesting fact is that all the genius mainland kids are applying to hkust and not hku undergrad, that should speak for itself.

<blockquote>I live in Hong Kong, to tell you the truth, local people only see ust is no 3 university in hk in general, of course it is still the best three in hk, and it is nothing special to attend this school to the local people.</blockquote>

i used to live and work in HK. concept of a business school in hk is relatively new and your average local on the street has no idea what an mba is. hong kong u is the oldest and most respected in hk thats true, but only in law/medicine/politics, things which are not taught at hkust but historically which have mattered most. etc. at the moment business ranking is as follows: hkust,cuhk,hku. i see hku passing cuhk at some point but it will never catch hkust, if anything hkust will eclipse hku in overall university prestige. at the end of the day, hkust's development model and focus on science and tech wins out big time.

another interesting fact is that all the genius mainland kids are applying to hkust and not hku undergrad, that should speak for itself.
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I am applying to HK-UST next month because their degree is recognized in asia, no matter you go. Better than any those Chinese MBA. HK-UST research centres for business are top notch, however the faculties are pretty unknown (expect this one guy called proffesor larry franklin, this guy is an ASSET to HK-UST).


i dont know who this guy is to be honest i dont see him publishing research. If you look at all the business departments and their research published you will come to the conclusion that they are world class. professor Jie Gan is probably the foremost academic authority on China Finance at the moment.

<blockquote>I am applying to HK-UST next month because their degree is recognized in asia, no matter you go. Better than any those Chinese MBA. HK-UST research centres for business are top notch, however the faculties are pretty unknown (expect this one guy called proffesor larry franklin, this guy is an ASSET to HK-UST). </blockquote>

i dont know who this guy is to be honest i dont see him publishing research. If you look at all the business departments and their research published you will come to the conclusion that they are world class. professor Jie Gan is probably the foremost academic authority on China Finance at the moment.

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langdvg

Well, i assume that even the local on the street people in HK is very knowledgeable nowadays to know the concept of mba. Without backing evidence, i would not be so bold to say that "ALL" genius students in mainland apply to one school or the other.

Well, i assume that even the local on the street people in HK is very knowledgeable nowadays to know the concept of mba. Without backing evidence, i would not be so bold to say that "ALL" genius students in mainland apply to one school or the other.
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Well, i assume that even the local on the street people in HK is very knowledgeable nowadays to know the concept of mba. Without backing evidence, i would not be so bold to say that "ALL" genius students in mainland apply to one school or the other.


locals in hk dont speak English, MBA might as well be a UFO to them.

since they all want to study science and tech, yes almost all of them apply to UST.

<blockquote>Well, i assume that even the local on the street people in HK is very knowledgeable nowadays to know the concept of mba. Without backing evidence, i would not be so bold to say that "ALL" genius students in mainland apply to one school or the other.</blockquote>

locals in hk dont speak English, MBA might as well be a UFO to them.

since they all want to study science and tech, yes almost all of them apply to UST.
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langdvg

WAHAHA..............

WAHAHA..............
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Perhaps this post on some other site may help


See MBA graduates from IIM are able to get 1Cr. salary and there are people from abroad institutes such as CEIBS who are still looking for jobs after passing out. In my institute CEIBS, there were 3 Indians who could not find jobs last year. Infact one of them searched for job for 1 long year. This year also only very few international people got job at CEIBS. Now everybody is pulling out their own personal connections to search for jobs. Hence, an international MBA is not as worth as you think.

But yes if you leave apart the job issue than you get a lot from International MBA, which is way more valuable than job. So, if you are coming to CEIBS for a job then dont come.

I am currently studying at CEIBS and can tell you that this is a world class institute in lot of parameters and perhaps way better than ISB in terms of exposure. But then you have to take your own decision that whether you are doing MBA for job or a long term investment.

Perhaps this post on some other site may help


See MBA graduates from IIM are able to get 1Cr. salary and there are people from abroad institutes such as CEIBS who are still looking for jobs after passing out. In my institute CEIBS, there were 3 Indians who could not find jobs last year. Infact one of them searched for job for 1 long year. This year also only very few international people got job at CEIBS. Now everybody is pulling out their own personal connections to search for jobs. Hence, an international MBA is not as worth as you think.

But yes if you leave apart the job issue than you get a lot from International MBA, which is way more valuable than job. So, if you are coming to CEIBS for a job then dont come.

I am currently studying at CEIBS and can tell you that this is a world class institute in lot of parameters and perhaps way better than ISB in terms of exposure. But then you have to take your own decision that whether you are doing MBA for job or a long term investment.
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wangtao

I would believe this also is true with Tsinghua - For international students expecting a great recruitment and salary package - MBA in China is not the answer. Instead, the MBA is a seed you plant while embarking on a long road in China. As the tree grows, it will help you along the way, whether through credibility, network, or knowledge gained (working with Chinese people in the many group work studies you do in a Chinese MBA). The reason you choose Tsinghua or CEIBS over the other MBAs is to get the best network possible. Eventually, 5 years down from your MBA, you will have hopefully learned enough Chinese to speak better than most other foreigners in China and you will have a network that will outrival most other foreigners in China. Thus, these two assets couples with your core competence should get you a $100K+ salary. The road during those 5 years however, is often a so so $40-$80K jobs.

I would believe this also is true with Tsinghua - For international students expecting a great recruitment and salary package - MBA in China is not the answer. Instead, the MBA is a seed you plant while embarking on a long road in China. As the tree grows, it will help you along the way, whether through credibility, network, or knowledge gained (working with Chinese people in the many group work studies you do in a Chinese MBA). The reason you choose Tsinghua or CEIBS over the other MBAs is to get the best network possible. Eventually, 5 years down from your MBA, you will have hopefully learned enough Chinese to speak better than most other foreigners in China and you will have a network that will outrival most other foreigners in China. Thus, these two assets couples with your core competence should get you a $100K+ salary. The road during those 5 years however, is often a so so $40-$80K jobs.
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I hear consistently that CEIBS graduates get really good jobs in China based MNCs. Does anyone have some idea on what the job prospects for CEIBS graduates are in the other nearby growing economies like Singapore, India, Korea, etc? Is CEIBS recognized outside China?


CEIBS is definitely one of the top MBA programs in China. For international students, you need to know some Chinese if you wanna get a fairly good job in China. As for ceibs's recognition in the world, it has good FT ranking and good network in mainland China. But it's still young, compared to those old b-schools in the States and Europe. So you get what I mean? If you want to boost your career in China, in Shanghai, just go to Ceibs!

<blockquote>I hear consistently that CEIBS graduates get really good jobs in China based MNCs. Does anyone have some idea on what the job prospects for CEIBS graduates are in the other nearby growing economies like Singapore, India, Korea, etc? Is CEIBS recognized outside China?</blockquote>

CEIBS is definitely one of the top MBA programs in China. For international students, you need to know some Chinese if you wanna get a fairly good job in China. As for ceibs's recognition in the world, it has good FT ranking and good network in mainland China. But it's still young, compared to those old b-schools in the States and Europe. So you get what I mean? If you want to boost your career in China, in Shanghai, just go to Ceibs!
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