UCD Dublin Vs HLL Leipzig


bommi81

I have admission from both UCD Dublin (MBA) and HHL Leipzig (MBA 13). But I m confused between which one to choose. Eventhough HHL is highly reputed with little German skills, can I really make it to Good management positions in German speaking world. Among all the developed countries now Germany is the only country now looking some positive growth (better than US as well!!!)

UCD Dublin, one of top university in Ireland and English speaking world.I have around 8yrs in Technology Management. Dublin being the Europe Technology center, I think this will be an advantage, but Ireland job market is not doing that great.

Could you please advise which one is better for an Asian, but worked with IBM/Accenture for last 8yrs as business analyst.

I have admission from both UCD Dublin (MBA) and HHL Leipzig (MBA 13). But I m confused between which one to choose. Eventhough HHL is highly reputed with little German skills, can I really make it to Good management positions in German speaking world. Among all the developed countries now Germany is the only country now looking some positive growth (better than US as well!!!)

UCD Dublin, one of top university in Ireland and English speaking world.I have around 8yrs in Technology Management. Dublin being the Europe Technology center, I think this will be an advantage, but Ireland job market is not doing that great.

Could you please advise which one is better for an Asian, but worked with IBM/Accenture for last 8yrs as business analyst.
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Duncan

That is a fascinating pair to chose between. HHL is an excellent school. You will be well advised to put as much effort as possible into learning German. The University of Leipzig has a special centre for that; the Herder Institut of something like that.

I think the employment team at both schools can advise you honestly on the employment openings for Indian in those countries. Don't be scared to ask about racism in those cities.

Smurfitt is certainly the top business school in Ireland, but I think most Irish people would say that Trinity is the top university in Ireland. It's an innovative and confident school. I don't take seriously the idea that Dublin is the European technology centre. It might be the help desk centre of Europe, but the major hubs for technology investment and development are in Germany, the UK and France.

Personally, I would choose HHL (and, indeed, did take a short course there in entrepreneurship) over UCD but it's a hard choice. Irish people will be more open to Indians than those in Leipzig, but there will be more, many more, employment opening for you in Germany than in Ireland.

That is a fascinating pair to chose between. HHL is an excellent school. You will be well advised to put as much effort as possible into learning German. The University of Leipzig has a special centre for that; the Herder Institut of something like that.

I think the employment team at both schools can advise you honestly on the employment openings for Indian in those countries. Don't be scared to ask about racism in those cities.

Smurfitt is certainly the top business school in Ireland, but I think most Irish people would say that Trinity is the top university in Ireland. It's an innovative and confident school. I don't take seriously the idea that Dublin is the European technology centre. It might be the help desk centre of Europe, but the major hubs for technology investment and development are in Germany, the UK and France.

Personally, I would choose HHL (and, indeed, did take a short course there in entrepreneurship) over UCD but it's a hard choice. Irish people will be more open to Indians than those in Leipzig, but there will be more, many more, employment opening for you in Germany than in Ireland.

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bommi81

Thank you Duncan. The above information was helpful.

I have offer from Birmingham as well. Now there is no tier-1 visa for students, which makes UK less attractive. Could you please provide some insights in that aspect as well. Thanks again.

Thank you Duncan. The above information was helpful.

I have offer from Birmingham as well. Now there is no tier-1 visa for students, which makes UK less attractive. Could you please provide some insights in that aspect as well. Thanks again.
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donho199

It seems that you are on a rush for MBA preparation and indeed application. It is June already.

It is true that Dublin has quite a few tech european ho but it is true that the level of real brain work is not on par with Germany. Even UK has a hard-time competing with Germany. France is also a very attractive place.

Make sure these are the best schools you can get into and you call the shot.

I would say Birmmingham is simple the best course, the best university and UK the more suitable for yourself.

HHL has very good entrepreneurship SME concentration. And do take German languages beforehand. If you work in technical roles, Germany companies wont require very high level of German fluency.

All the best.

It seems that you are on a rush for MBA preparation and indeed application. It is June already.

It is true that Dublin has quite a few tech european ho but it is true that the level of real brain work is not on par with Germany. Even UK has a hard-time competing with Germany. France is also a very attractive place.

Make sure these are the best schools you can get into and you call the shot.

I would say Birmmingham is simple the best course, the best university and UK the more suitable for yourself.

HHL has very good entrepreneurship SME concentration. And do take German languages beforehand. If you work in technical roles, Germany companies wont require very high level of German fluency.

All the best.
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donho199

aha forget one thing, quite a few companies set up business there just to avoid paying a higher tax rate elsewhere. I would think your Business Analyst background dont seem to be very much useful.

aha forget one thing, quite a few companies set up business there just to avoid paying a higher tax rate elsewhere. I would think your Business Analyst background dont seem to be very much useful.
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maubia

aha forget one thing, quite a few companies set up business there just to avoid paying a higher tax rate elsewhere. I would think your Business Analyst background dont seem to be very much useful.


Well, Ibm and Accenture are constantly recruiting in Europe as well. Specifically Accenture is hiring lots of SAP consultants in Slovakia (those will mostly work in DACH regions). They don't require (normally) german... but if you know it they ll pay you 500e more x month.

<blockquote>aha forget one thing, quite a few companies set up business there just to avoid paying a higher tax rate elsewhere. I would think your Business Analyst background dont seem to be very much useful. </blockquote>

Well, Ibm and Accenture are constantly recruiting in Europe as well. Specifically Accenture is hiring lots of SAP consultants in Slovakia (those will mostly work in DACH regions). They don't require (normally) german... but if you know it they ll pay you 500e more x month.
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bommi81

Hi All,

Thank you so much for the insights. It is interesting to know the details from the all the knowledgable people.

Hi All,

Thank you so much for the insights. It is interesting to know the details from the all the knowledgable people.
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bommi81

Duncan,

Could you please share your experience with HHL enterepreneurship details. Thank you.

Duncan,

Could you please share your experience with HHL enterepreneurship details. Thank you.
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Duncan

Sure.

My experience was that entrepreneurship at HHL was done in a highly interactive and workshop-based approach. HHL is argues that entrepreneurship thrives on change. Entrepreneurs must foster and commercialise innovations by seeking and pursuing competitive advantages.

That means there's a very mindful and analytical approach, which is reflected by its partnership with Boston Consulting Group. When I was at HHL, BCG provided case-insights into entrepreneurship from the point of view of management consultants. We heard about how they had helped spin-outs and market entry projects, and worked in teams to develop our own solutions.

It was done in a very socialable and interactive way, and the way the programme drew on both HHL faculty, doctoral researchers and BCG was very interesting. The students were highly intelligent, self confident and a little younger than at many other schools.

HHL has a major commitment to backing start-ups, a strong Angel network and some really interesting ventures have been founded by alumni.

Sure.

My experience was that entrepreneurship at HHL was done in a highly interactive and workshop-based approach. HHL is argues that entrepreneurship thrives on change. Entrepreneurs must foster and commercialise innovations by seeking and pursuing competitive advantages.

That means there's a very mindful and analytical approach, which is reflected by its partnership with Boston Consulting Group. When I was at HHL, BCG provided case-insights into entrepreneurship from the point of view of management consultants. We heard about how they had helped spin-outs and market entry projects, and worked in teams to develop our own solutions.

It was done in a very socialable and interactive way, and the way the programme drew on both HHL faculty, doctoral researchers and BCG was very interesting. The students were highly intelligent, self confident and a little younger than at many other schools.

HHL has a major commitment to backing start-ups, a strong Angel network and some really interesting ventures have been founded by alumni.
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