Imperial vs Warwick vs Manchester vs Cass for Strategic Consulting


adham

I would like to ask about the chance of getting into one of strategy consulting firms in middle east mainly (MCK , Boston , Bain , At Kearny , Oliver wyman..etc)





I am from Technology background.





are these schools are target school for strategy consultancy companies?

[Edited by adham on Jul 18, 2020]

I would like to ask about the chance of getting into one of strategy consulting firms in middle east mainly (MCK , Boston , Bain , At Kearny , Oliver wyman..etc)<br><br>
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I am from Technology background.<br><br>
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are these schools are target school for strategy consultancy companies?
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Duncan

A good start is: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school www.find-mba.com/board/33571

I find that often, when candidates say Middle East, they really mean the Persian Gulf. So, looking at MBAs in those firms and countries, the schools with the most alumni are:

INSEAD

American University of Beirut

London Business School

Columbia Business School

Harvard Business School.

The schools you mention seem to have fewer than a handful of people each.

[Edited by Duncan on Jul 18, 2020]

A good start is: How to use LinkedIn to find the best school&nbsp;<a href="https://www.find-mba.com/board/33571" rel="nofollow" style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">www.find-mba.com/board/33571</a><br><br>I find that often, when candidates say Middle East, they really mean the Persian Gulf. So, looking at MBAs in those firms and countries, the schools with the most alumni are:<br><br><ol class="search-s-facet__list list-style-none mb3" style="box-sizing: inherit; margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-size: 16px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.9); font-family: -apple-system, system-ui, BlinkMacSystemFont, &quot;Segoe UI&quot;, Roboto, &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, &quot;Fira Sans&quot;, Ubuntu, Oxygen, &quot;Oxygen Sans&quot;, Cantarell, &quot;Droid Sans&quot;, &quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;, &quot;Segoe UI Symbol&quot;, &quot;Lucida Grande&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 12px !important; list-style: none !important;"><li class="search-facet__value " style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 0px; 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outline: 0px; font-weight: 400; line-height: 2rem; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6); display: block; cursor: pointer; word-break: break-word; position: relative;">London Business School</label><br><br></li><li class="search-facet__value " style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent;"><input id="sf-school-18941" class="medium-input mr3" type="checkbox" value="18941" style="box-sizing: inherit; vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 1.6rem; margin-right: 0.2rem; pointer-events: none; opacity: 0; position: absolute; width: 250px; font-size: 14px;"><label for="sf-school-18941" class="search-s-facet-value__label t-14 t-black--light t-normal" style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 1.2rem 0px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 2.8rem; border: 0px; font-size: 1.4rem; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent; outline: 0px; font-weight: 400; line-height: 2rem; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6); display: block; cursor: pointer; word-break: break-word; position: relative;">Columbia Business School</label><br><br></li><li class="search-facet__value " style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent;"><input id="sf-school-18484" class="medium-input mr3" type="checkbox" value="18484" style="box-sizing: inherit; vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 1.6rem; margin-right: 0.2rem; pointer-events: none; opacity: 0; position: absolute; width: 250px; font-size: 14px;"><label for="sf-school-18484" class="search-s-facet-value__label t-14 t-black--light t-normal" style="box-sizing: inherit; margin: 1.2rem 0px 0px; padding: 0px 0px 0px 2.8rem; border: 0px; font-size: 1.4rem; vertical-align: baseline; background: transparent; outline: 0px; font-weight: 400; line-height: 2rem; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.6); display: block; cursor: pointer; word-break: break-word; position: relative;">Harvard Business School.</label><br><br>The schools you mention seem to have fewer than a handful of people each.</li></ol>
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adham

Thanks Duncan for your reply , I really appreciate it.
unfortunately,those universities are way off my budget.

I am not sure if getting a loan to join one of them is a good approach?

I searched linkedin and checked the employment report of Cass, Imperial , Warwick (doesn't have an employment report), Manchester.

I started to tend to go to Manchester or Imperial. Also I found that they provide a global Mba program and I thought this might be good option during corona.
currently I am thinking to target Big 4 and after couple of years to go to strategy consulting.
1) are there big difference between global MBA and full time MBAs?
2)Comparing Imperial and Manchester program, which program would be better for me?I feel Imperial as a brand is more prestigious than Manchester  

Thanks 
 

Thanks Duncan for your reply , I really appreciate it.<br>unfortunately,those universities are way off my budget.<br><br>I am not sure if getting a loan to join one of them is a good approach?<br><br>I searched linkedin and checked the employment report of Cass, Imperial , Warwick (doesn't have an employment report), Manchester.<br><br>I started to tend to go to Manchester or Imperial. Also I found that they provide a global Mba program and I thought this might be good option during corona.<br>currently I am thinking to target Big 4 and after couple of years to go to strategy consulting.<br>1) are there big difference between global MBA and full time MBAs?<br>2)Comparing Imperial and Manchester program, which program would be better for me?I feel Imperial as a brand is more prestigious than Manchester&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>Thanks&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;
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Duncan

The schools you mention are good schools, but they are unlikely to lead you to that goal. So, either borrow more to attend schools that lead to those goals or set other goals and then find schools that meet those goals. But don't attend a school that will not lead you to your goal. That makes no sense. It's like you want to go to Disneyland, but you buy a ticket to Athens because you can't afford the ticket to LA. 

The schools you mention are good schools, but they are unlikely to lead you to that goal. So, either borrow more to attend schools that lead to those goals or set other goals and then find schools that meet those goals. But don't attend a school that will not lead you to your goal. That makes no sense. It's like you want to go to Disneyland, but you buy a ticket to Athens because you can't afford the ticket to LA.&nbsp;
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adham

Thanks Duncan, you have a point so I will either depend on prodigy finance and try to get to lbs or insead or change the target.

so even for the big 4 (PWC,EY..etc) those universities (Manchester and Imperial) will not  help me to go there.
would they help me to go to big tech (amazon , google , fb , microsoft)?

Thanks Duncan, you have a point so I will either depend on prodigy finance and try to get to lbs or insead or change the target.<br><br>so even for the big 4 (PWC,EY..etc) those universities (Manchester and Imperial) will not&nbsp; help me to go there.<br>would they help me to go to big tech (amazon , google , fb , microsoft)?
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Duncan

Read the post I linked to about LinkedIn. You should do this analysis yourself. 

Read the post I linked to about LinkedIn. You should do this analysis yourself.&nbsp;
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adham

I used the linkedin method but I feel that the data is unclear. because when I filter for example School alumni who have mba and working in google. I find that in many cases that they have done their undergraduate studies in Imperial but MBA from another place.

is there a way to refine this search or am I doing something wrong?

[Edited by adham on Jul 23, 2020]

I used the linkedin method but I feel that the data is unclear. because when I filter for example School alumni who have mba and working in google. I find that in many cases that they have done their undergraduate studies in Imperial but MBA from another place.<br><br>is there a way to refine this search or am I doing something wrong?
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Duncan

You could sample the data and see what percentage have done their Mba at that school. 

You could sample the data and see what percentage have done their Mba at that school.&nbsp;
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adham

Apology for the many questions :D
from your opinion, If I target an EMBA from LBS or IESE would this help to join one of strategy consultancy? ,or their focus is mainly full time?

 I saw that they have big network in those companies but I am not sure if this is also applicable to EMBA,


Apology for the many questions :D<br>from your opinion, If I target an EMBA from LBS or IESE would this help to join one of strategy consultancy? ,or their focus is mainly full time?<br><br>&nbsp;I saw that they have big network in those companies but I am not sure if this is also applicable to EMBA,<br><br><br>
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Duncan

The EMBA is a great option.

The EMBA is a great option.
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adham

Thanks Duncan for your help,
-is there a big difference between  EMBA and full time MBAs in case of LBS or IESE especially regarding career services they provide?
-Does the companies prefer full timer than executive mba or it does not make much difference?
-If I have to choose between EMBA from Elite schools like LBS, IESE ..etc or Full time MBA from second tier school like Cass or Imperial? what would be the best option , I always thought that full time give more experience and networking opportunities but now I feel that most important is the brand name and the alumni network more than the program format?

As I understand that IESE , lBS and Insead are target school for those companies but Cass and Imperial are not target school ,am I correct?

Despite that in linkedin Cass, Imperial and manchester have small network in strategy consultancy , they are adding those companies in their employment reports as top employers and internships providers.

Thanks in advance for your reply

[Edited by adham on Jul 25, 2020]

Thanks Duncan for your help,<br>-is there a big difference between&nbsp; EMBA and full time MBAs in case of LBS or IESE especially regarding career services they provide?<br>-Does the companies prefer full timer than executive mba or it does not make much difference?<br>-If I have to choose between EMBA from Elite schools like LBS, IESE ..etc or Full time MBA from second tier school like Cass or Imperial? what would be the best option , I always thought that full time give more experience and networking opportunities but now I feel that most important is the brand name and the alumni network more than the program format?<br><br>As I understand that IESE , lBS and Insead are target school for those companies but Cass and Imperial are not target school ,am I correct?<br><br>Despite that in linkedin Cass, Imperial and manchester have small network in strategy consultancy , they are adding those companies in their employment reports as top employers and internships providers.<br><br>Thanks in advance for your reply<br><br>
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Duncan

- Schools career services are optimsed for full-time students but generally there are similar services available.
- Firms go to business schools for full time students. Of course, many events have EMBA students too but they will tend to not go through on-campus recruiting. 
- Full time or part time depends on many issues: practicalities; selectivity; how far you want to shift etc. I advise people to focus on the schools that your target employers have the strongest relationships with.
- Traditional MBA employers generally put more effort into the best schools. For example, maybe McKinsey will hire from both Insead and from Manchester this year, but it might be 100 people from McKinsey and 1 from Manchester. Choose the most probable paths for your goal. 

- Schools career services are optimsed for full-time students but generally there are similar services available.<br>- Firms go to business schools for full time students. Of course, many events have EMBA students too but they will tend to not go through on-campus recruiting.&nbsp;<br>- Full time or part time depends on many issues: practicalities; selectivity; how far you want to shift etc. I advise people to focus on the schools that your target employers have the strongest relationships with.<br>- Traditional MBA employers generally put more effort into the best schools. For example, maybe McKinsey will hire from both Insead and from Manchester this year, but it might be 100 people from McKinsey and 1 from Manchester. Choose the most probable paths for your goal.&nbsp;
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