India beats Harvard???


Sugar-MBA

Hi all,
I´m new here.. and I´m thinking of doing an MBA in India. I´ve read this article, and I was just thinking if there is anybody who would like to talk about it ad tell me if you think this is true - and that maybe.. the trend is actually going to Asia
mba-channel.com/News/News/Indien_schlaegt_Harvard.html

Thx :)

Hi all,
I´m new here.. and I´m thinking of doing an MBA in India. I´ve read this article, and I was just thinking if there is anybody who would like to talk about it ad tell me if you think this is true - and that maybe.. the trend is actually going to Asia
mba-channel.com/News/News/Indien_schlaegt_Harvard.html

Thx :)
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Hi all,
I´m new here.. and I´m thinking of doing an MBA in India. I´ve read this article, and I was just thinking if there is anybody who would like to talk about it ad tell me if you think this is true - and that maybe.. the trend is actually going to Asia


Thx :)


I definitely agree with you that the trend is going to Asia for an MBA, whether it be for EU or US students.

<blockquote>Hi all,
I´m new here.. and I´m thinking of doing an MBA in India. I´ve read this article, and I was just thinking if there is anybody who would like to talk about it ad tell me if you think this is true - and that maybe.. the trend is actually going to Asia


Thx :) </blockquote>

I definitely agree with you that the trend is going to Asia for an MBA, whether it be for EU or US students.
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LP

I think it's important to go beyond the flashy title of the article, and focus on objective data. The article comments upon some research done by GMAC. That research shows that (1) there's been an increase in the number of applicants from India and China; (2) for those applicants, the No. 1 destination is still the US; and (3) the number of applications to Indian schools has increased, even though many of those institutions are not internationally accredited.

If you think about it, this doesn't mean that "India beats Harvard", as the title claims. The title is a nice way to draw your attention, but that's pretty much it.

The fact that Indian institutions are increasingly demanded does not mean that their quality has increased. There are more applicants from Asia, and arguably many of them don't have enough money or quality to get into the better US MBAs. So that would be a sensible reason why more Asian students apply to Asian MBAs that are not accredited.

Another thing to note is that statistics depend on how you define countries. For example, European countries are very small, which partly explains why they do not appear on top of the list. I'd be curious to know what the data would look like if you aggregate all EU countries.

I think it's important to go beyond the flashy title of the article, and focus on objective data. The article comments upon some research done by GMAC. That research shows that (1) there's been an increase in the number of applicants from India and China; (2) for those applicants, the No. 1 destination is still the US; and (3) the number of applications to Indian schools has increased, even though many of those institutions are not internationally accredited.

If you think about it, this doesn't mean that "India beats Harvard", as the title claims. The title is a nice way to draw your attention, but that's pretty much it.

The fact that Indian institutions are increasingly demanded does not mean that their quality has increased. There are more applicants from Asia, and arguably many of them don't have enough money or quality to get into the better US MBAs. So that would be a sensible reason why more Asian students apply to Asian MBAs that are not accredited.

Another thing to note is that statistics depend on how you define countries. For example, European countries are very small, which partly explains why they do not appear on top of the list. I'd be curious to know what the data would look like if you aggregate all EU countries.
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Malia

Hi all,
I´m new here.. and I´m thinking of doing an MBA in India.


Are you really interested in an MBA from India??? Where are you from? I don't think an MBA from Indian universities will help you with your career if you are from a western country, except if you intend to stay in India for the rest of your professional life...

Things may be different if you get an MBA from a school in Hong Kong or Singapore. If you want to know more about Hong Kong, you should contact globetraveler. He is very fond of HKUST.

<blockquote>Hi all,
I´m new here.. and I´m thinking of doing an MBA in India. </blockquote>

Are you really interested in an MBA from India??? Where are you from? I don't think an MBA from Indian universities will help you with your career if you are from a western country, except if you intend to stay in India for the rest of your professional life...

Things may be different if you get an MBA from a school in Hong Kong or Singapore. If you want to know more about Hong Kong, you should contact globetraveler. He is very fond of HKUST.

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ArunS

I don't agree that Indian B-Schools are beating the Harvard yet but within 15-20 Yrs they will surly give International B-schools a tough time. With economy growing at 9-10% and Indian salaries rising to international levels, Indian B-schools will gain more and more recognition, as Indian companies will be recruiting locals mainly from India B-schools.

The title of the article is misleading and a simply attention catching gimmic. Article only comapres the number of GMAT takers and scores sent o various countries/Institutes. Also with the advent of IIM-PGPX/PGPEX th situation will further tilt in favour of India.

A cheaper MBA degree ( but highly competent) in India is another factor in favour of Indian B-Schools.

I hope my comment help in your understanding of situation. If you are planning to get a job in India or for low cost degree then India is best place. Otherwise also many international big names come to India for recruitments.

Arun

I don't agree that Indian B-Schools are beating the Harvard yet but within 15-20 Yrs they will surly give International B-schools a tough time. With economy growing at 9-10% and Indian salaries rising to international levels, Indian B-schools will gain more and more recognition, as Indian companies will be recruiting locals mainly from India B-schools.

The title of the article is misleading and a simply attention catching gimmic. Article only comapres the number of GMAT takers and scores sent o various countries/Institutes. Also with the advent of IIM-PGPX/PGPEX th situation will further tilt in favour of India.

A cheaper MBA degree ( but highly competent) in India is another factor in favour of Indian B-Schools.

I hope my comment help in your understanding of situation. If you are planning to get a job in India or for low cost degree then India is best place. Otherwise also many international big names come to India for recruitments.

Arun
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The fact that Indian institutions are increasingly demanded does not mean that their quality has increased. There are more applicants from Asia, and arguably many of them don't have enough money or quality to get into the better US MBAs. So that would be a sensible reason why more Asian students apply to Asian MBAs that are not accredited.



thats true, but there is a group of perhaps 5 Asian schools which appear in FT/Economist, that can give any US school, outside of Business Week Top 15, a run for their money.
There is also another fact behind recent exodus of western students to Asia. Singapore and HK financial job markets are absolutley booming and there is less competition for top jobs with top employers over there... So the more adventurous type of student does weigh in the options now if he can not get into the absolute elite US schools.

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The fact that Indian institutions are increasingly demanded does not mean that their quality has increased. There are more applicants from Asia, and arguably many of them don't have enough money or quality to get into the better US MBAs. So that would be a sensible reason why more Asian students apply to Asian MBAs that are not accredited.

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thats true, but there is a group of perhaps 5 Asian schools which appear in FT/Economist, that can give any US school, outside of Business Week Top 15, a run for their money.
There is also another fact behind recent exodus of western students to Asia. Singapore and HK financial job markets are absolutley booming and there is less competition for top jobs with top employers over there... So the more adventurous type of student does weigh in the options now if he can not get into the absolute elite US schools.

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a_mukerjee

I am from India, and for me it is very clear: If ever there is any possibility to study in a b-school in the Western world (meaning first of all USA, and then Australia and Europe, I favour Europe), I will go for it.
Key decision factors here are:
First of all, do I qualify for a good Western school (won't go for a not so good one of course. Then I can stay home), are my results, GPA, GMAT,TOEFL, good enough to enroll?
Secondly: Financial capacity. A big problem also for students for a bit wealthier families. London for instance, a favorite destination among my friends, without a scholarship is just too difficult to afford for many of them.

And as Jaitego states: As we are so many in number, it is easy to beat a European or US b-school in NUMBERS...
number of applicants, number of students etc. And more and more people have access to good education whilst economical situation gets better.
Only the Chinese could beat us in numbers
;-)

I am from India, and for me it is very clear: If ever there is any possibility to study in a b-school in the Western world (meaning first of all USA, and then Australia and Europe, I favour Europe), I will go for it.
Key decision factors here are:
First of all, do I qualify for a good Western school (won't go for a not so good one of course. Then I can stay home), are my results, GPA, GMAT,TOEFL, good enough to enroll?
Secondly: Financial capacity. A big problem also for students for a bit wealthier families. London for instance, a favorite destination among my friends, without a scholarship is just too difficult to afford for many of them.

And as Jaitego states: As we are so many in number, it is easy to beat a European or US b-school in NUMBERS...
number of applicants, number of students etc. And more and more people have access to good education whilst economical situation gets better.
Only the Chinese could beat us in numbers
;-)
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Sugar-MBA

I had a look at the Financial Times 100 B schools, unfortunatly in FT 100 MBAs, there is nothing from India..
But yes, I am concidering going to India, because .. well.. it is a very interesting country.. and I like visiting new places.. and if I could study there .. why not ? ... I mean. i would love just to travel.. cause it is a beautifull place.. as i´ve heard.. but.. I think that i would have a lot to learn.. and.. I don´t hope on scorring more than 650 on the Gmat.. so.. ba bye West.. cause even if they would want me.. could not afford it :(

well...ok.. maybe she was a bit flahsy with this article, but in General she is very cold with and clear cut but still.. numbers are always good.. I mean I come from a humanities major.. and .. even we like numbers.. I dnk how many of u are science.. but.. i don´t think there is anything bad in numbers..
And .. this article reminded me of something I read in Capital some 5 years ago or longer.. it was `Indian IT engineers decide to stay home.. boom economy ` so... maybe you are planning something else for us?
I mean, I met many smart and hard working Indians in my life, so I think that Harvard would give them a good scholarship cause.. they have money... but still, if so many Indians are applaying to B-schools in India.. I think there must be smth good in there..even though they are not the top 100 FT ..

We´ll see about Chinese :P

I had a look at the Financial Times 100 B schools, unfortunatly in FT 100 MBAs, there is nothing from India..
But yes, I am concidering going to India, because .. well.. it is a very interesting country.. and I like visiting new places.. and if I could study there .. why not ? ... I mean. i would love just to travel.. cause it is a beautifull place.. as i´ve heard.. but.. I think that i would have a lot to learn.. and.. I don´t hope on scorring more than 650 on the Gmat.. so.. ba bye West.. cause even if they would want me.. could not afford it :(

well...ok.. maybe she was a bit flahsy with this article, but in General she is very cold with and clear cut but still.. numbers are always good.. I mean I come from a humanities major.. and .. even we like numbers.. I dnk how many of u are science.. but.. i don´t think there is anything bad in numbers..
And .. this article reminded me of something I read in Capital some 5 years ago or longer.. it was `Indian IT engineers decide to stay home.. boom economy ` so... maybe you are planning something else for us?
I mean, I met many smart and hard working Indians in my life, so I think that Harvard would give them a good scholarship cause.. they have money... but still, if so many Indians are applaying to B-schools in India.. I think there must be smth good in there..even though they are not the top 100 FT ..

We´ll see about Chinese :P
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