UIBS Antwerp, does anyone have experience ??


Sabine

If you chose an MBA, I advise you to look carefully to the international accreditations like AMBA, AACSB,... FT ranking, so you know that the delivered quality meets the standards. On top, having affinity with a University guarantees the academic grounded knowledge. UIBS is not a recognized university in Belgium. In Antwerp, the only university you have is the UA. Antwerp Management School is the autonomous management school of the university. The Exec MBA program on Antw. Mgt School is ranked in FIn Times at 50th place worldwide for its MBA program. They have a mirror program in Moscow, the first one ever in Moscow. Recently, 15y partnership celebrated! If you want a true global program, with a lot of diversity amongst the participants, no doubt that this is a great choice! Average age around 35.

If you chose an MBA, I advise you to look carefully to the international accreditations like AMBA, AACSB,... FT ranking, so you know that the delivered quality meets the standards. On top, having affinity with a University guarantees the academic grounded knowledge. UIBS is not a recognized university in Belgium. In Antwerp, the only university you have is the UA. Antwerp Management School is the autonomous management school of the university. The Exec MBA program on Antw. Mgt School is ranked in FIn Times at 50th place worldwide for its MBA program. They have a mirror program in Moscow, the first one ever in Moscow. Recently, 15y partnership celebrated! If you want a true global program, with a lot of diversity amongst the participants, no doubt that this is a great choice! Average age around 35.
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Aengo

Hey there!

I'm curious now, is the UIBS Barcelona recognized by the goverment of Spain? I chose BBA and am deciding whether IBS in Budapest or the UIBS in Barcelona is the better choice regarding accredation etc....
@Duncan are you sure the degree is worthless ? I mean the accredations aren't very convincing but you say the degree is too? I mean shouldn`t that be a problem because of the ECTS ?

Thanks anyway

[Edited by Aengo on May 13, 2016]

Hey there!

I'm curious now, is the UIBS Barcelona recognized by the goverment of Spain? I chose BBA and am deciding whether IBS in Budapest or the UIBS in Barcelona is the better choice regarding accredation etc....
@Duncan are you sure the degree is worthless ? I mean the accredations aren't very convincing but you say the degree is too? I mean shouldn`t that be a problem because of the ECTS ?

Thanks anyway
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Duncan

If you find a respected school that accepts ECTS from UIBS let me know.

If you find a respected school that accepts ECTS from UIBS let me know.
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AMBALA

Am applying for the Antwerp MSC-Global Supply Chain Management programme in 2017 intake. Now i have 2 options WU in Austria and AMS(Antwerp)- in Belgium..Am from india and am looking forward to work in Europe post my studies..Which university is the best among the 2 ?..
Spoke to a Alumnus from Antwerp and got a very good feedback but din get a chance to contact anyone from WU Austria...Can someone suggest me which one to choose?


I would request kyuri ,Duncan, Bissy and ralph to share your views.

Thanks in advance for your time and response.

Thanks,
Ambala.

Am applying for the Antwerp MSC-Global Supply Chain Management programme in 2017 intake. Now i have 2 options WU in Austria and AMS(Antwerp)- in Belgium..Am from india and am looking forward to work in Europe post my studies..Which university is the best among the 2 ?..
Spoke to a Alumnus from Antwerp and got a very good feedback but din get a chance to contact anyone from WU Austria...Can someone suggest me which one to choose?


I would request kyuri ,Duncan, Bissy and ralph to share your views.

Thanks in advance for your time and response.

Thanks,
Ambala.
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Duncan

Please don't ask about AMS on a thread about UIBS. It will confuse people. Start a new thread and outline your language learning plans before you start. I don't see how you can find work without the local language.

Please don't ask about AMS on a thread about UIBS. It will confuse people. Start a new thread and outline your language learning plans before you start. I don't see how you can find work without the local language.
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Hello Guys,

UIBS = United International Business School , they are established in Spain, Belgium, Swiss, Japan.
I'm looking for an MBA since November last year until i found this Business School. I'm interested because of few points, the cost are suitable for me, their schedules, the specialization and they don't require GMAT.
But, i couldn't find any testimony on the internet about them or their alumni stories.

Does anyone know anything about UIBS Antwerp ?
Could you share please

Thank's

[quote]Hello Guys,

UIBS = United International Business School , they are established in Spain, Belgium, Swiss, Japan.
I'm looking for an MBA since November last year until i found this Business School. I'm interested because of few points, the cost are suitable for me, their schedules, the specialization and they don't require GMAT.
But, i couldn't find any testimony on the internet about them or their alumni stories.

Does anyone know anything about UIBS Antwerp ?
Could you share please

Thank's
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This is the SAME construction as the already convicted European univ.
The degree is not recognized by official academic education center. In Belgium only five are official a.o university of hasselt, leuven... but officials of the governement do not recognize their existence neither the vale of the degree. Find an official university. Otherwise every euro spent in this school is wasted...

This is the SAME construction as the already convicted European univ.
The degree is not recognized by official academic education center. In Belgium only five are official a.o university of hasselt, leuven... but officials of the governement do not recognize their existence neither the vale of the degree. Find an official university. Otherwise every euro spent in this school is wasted...
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Oh it's terrible. It's the same guy who runs a few other b schools which are do not issue state recognised degrees.

[quote]Oh it's terrible. It's the same guy who runs a few other b schools which are do not issue state recognised degrees. [/quote]
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Indeed... be careful with their small talk during interview the degree is not recognized by the real academic industry
It s like....I have an MBA o the united fun factory for toys ltd.... hey I also gave my 6 year old daughter a self invented degree for passing kinder garden... she is very happy with her master in kindergarten successfully passed degree on her wall...

Indeed... be careful with their small talk during interview the degree is not recognized by the real academic industry
It s like....I have an MBA o the united fun factory for toys ltd.... hey I also gave my 6 year old daughter a self invented degree for passing kinder garden... she is very happy with her master in kindergarten successfully passed degree on her wall...
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Duncan you are very wrong- i had a dual masters from UIBS ANTWERP and is working for me perfectly. they now have accreditation and is a fully established university. There is no need to make senseless statement if you don't know anything about the school. Grow up

[quote]Duncan you are very wrong- i had a dual masters from UIBS ANTWERP and is working for me perfectly. they now have accreditation and is a fully established university. There is no need to make senseless statement if you don't know anything about the school. Grow up[/quote]
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If it works for you I don't want to know which company you work for... if your company can not make distinction between real MBA vs UIBS MBA...
it says enough about the job you applied for... perhaps the HR was a sick leave?

If it works for you I don't want to know which company you work for... if your company can not make distinction between real MBA vs UIBS MBA...
it says enough about the job you applied for... perhaps the HR was a sick leave?
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Jack2017

We are talking about a business school and UIBS it is one of them. They are not at the same level of the top schools but they offer a good "product" with flexibility, international possibilities to go around the campus at a duable price. If you are combining them with the work it is OK. If you are looking for mora "academic" lessons you can peraphs choose a more traditional university with longer history. Think about your investment and its ROI

We are talking about a business school and UIBS it is one of them. They are not at the same level of the top schools but they offer a good "product" with flexibility, international possibilities to go around the campus at a duable price. If you are combining them with the work it is OK. If you are looking for mora "academic" lessons you can peraphs choose a more traditional university with longer history. Think about your investment and its ROI
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Duncan

That is nonsense. They are not at the same level as the worst universities, let alone the top ones. They cannot issue legal degrees. The RoI will be better at any free state university in Europe picked at random on mastersportal.eu.

That is nonsense. They are not at the same level as the worst universities, let alone the top ones. They cannot issue legal degrees. The RoI will be better at any free state university in Europe picked at random on mastersportal.eu.
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Jack2017

Well, their website says this: http://www.uibs.org/about_private_degrees.html
Around the world there are several universities and institutions with different political, cultural and economical weight. Some of them are very good, some other are only a huge marketing toy.
On the other hand, every potential student must assess his investment and understand what are the primary targets: network, find a job, improve his career; get knowledge; refresh knowledge; get other inputs; the cost (UIBS 15k the others 70k..100?).
Only at the end of this assessment, it can be possible make the right choice and potentially have the best ROI.

Last but not least, nobody is comparing this UIBS to Columbia but, with all the respect, if you are sure of what you are saying why don't you call the authorities vs UIBS? Nothing personal please, but we leave in a world where everybody write in a blog like he is doing a speech in Piccadilly circus, may I know on which base you justify your fervent opinion?.

[Edited by Jack2017 on Jun 16, 2017]

Well, their website says this: http://www.uibs.org/about_private_degrees.html
Around the world there are several universities and institutions with different political, cultural and economical weight. Some of them are very good, some other are only a huge marketing toy.
On the other hand, every potential student must assess his investment and understand what are the primary targets: network, find a job, improve his career; get knowledge; refresh knowledge; get other inputs; the cost (UIBS 15k the others 70k..100?).
Only at the end of this assessment, it can be possible make the right choice and potentially have the best ROI.

Last but not least, nobody is comparing this UIBS to Columbia but, with all the respect, if you are sure of what you are saying why don't you call the authorities vs UIBS? Nothing personal please, but we leave in a world where everybody write in a blog like he is doing a speech in Piccadilly circus, may I know on which base you justify your fervent opinion?.
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Duncan

It is not illegal to print bits of paper. The point about UIBS is that it does not have the state-given right to issue academic degrees in the countries where it operates. Neither can it offer vale for money. Belgium and every other mainland Euopean countries have good schools in real universities that are one tenth the price. UIBS is, indeed, not as good as Columbia but it it not better than a good high school diploma either.

[Edited by Duncan on Jun 17, 2017]

It is not illegal to print bits of paper. The point about UIBS is that it does not have the state-given right to issue academic degrees in the countries where it operates. Neither can it offer vale for money. Belgium and every other mainland Euopean countries have good schools in real universities that are one tenth the price. UIBS is, indeed, not as good as Columbia but it it not better than a good high school diploma either.
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Jack2017

Well, Duncan again nothing personal but only pure debate…
We are going too generalist now; the question is: the accreditation published on UIBS website are real or not?
If no, well I’m on your side.
If yes, we may discuss about their market appeal but this is a much more complicated topics.
Again, today is not like 20 years ago, when only by showing the title you could directly enter in a managerial position of a wall street company. Today, almost every university has its own MBA or other fancy business program and those titles are under deep inflation.
Today, every mid-big size Company is very structured, with plenty of internal process, oriented to minimize the personal contribution (choice are not the best one but driven by the market), and with a high vocation to externalize functions and activity….we are only a roller…of a machine…till the machine drives in our Country.


If what I said is understandable, and if we assume that the best salaries are in the mid-big size Companies, in those conditions it is quite challenging recover in max 3 years the investment of a 100k MBA fees + at least 40K for cost of living by only using the salary net of cost of living and personal expenses. Even if you save 30k net per years you will need almost 5 years….on an average MBA class who is able to find a job that guarantee a 30k net saving per year? In NYC, London, Singapore where you pay 25k for your yearly rent?...no way…
It is for this that the right choice must be done after a personal assessment of its own CV and expectation.
What is your experience? What is your goal? What is your network?
Trump (not because I am his follower) become president thanks Wharton business school ? Steve Jobs?? even not a degree…

The education is important….fundamental but in the screening of the best school the only sentence completely true to keep in mind is: “better the university higher the possibilities you will get later on”.
A part this, there are no other guarantees.
Of course, this is relatively valid for people who are looking for an academic path…for them the point is completely different.

In conclusion, UIBS or similar entities are fine only for some group of people who are looking for acquiring a real-world application knowledge, they want to set up their own business or they already have an interesting working experience and need to continue to develop the knowledge they already had in their previous education.
If instead, you want to use it as first card to show on your CV, I would agree with you that it is better to make a more “glittering” choice.

Well, Duncan again nothing personal but only pure debate…
We are going too generalist now; the question is: the accreditation published on UIBS website are real or not?
If no, well I’m on your side.
If yes, we may discuss about their market appeal but this is a much more complicated topics.
Again, today is not like 20 years ago, when only by showing the title you could directly enter in a managerial position of a wall street company. Today, almost every university has its own MBA or other fancy business program and those titles are under deep inflation.
Today, every mid-big size Company is very structured, with plenty of internal process, oriented to minimize the personal contribution (choice are not the best one but driven by the market), and with a high vocation to externalize functions and activity….we are only a roller…of a machine…till the machine drives in our Country.


If what I said is understandable, and if we assume that the best salaries are in the mid-big size Companies, in those conditions it is quite challenging recover in max 3 years the investment of a 100k MBA fees + at least 40K for cost of living by only using the salary net of cost of living and personal expenses. Even if you save 30k net per years you will need almost 5 years….on an average MBA class who is able to find a job that guarantee a 30k net saving per year? In NYC, London, Singapore where you pay 25k for your yearly rent?...no way…
It is for this that the right choice must be done after a personal assessment of its own CV and expectation.
What is your experience? What is your goal? What is your network?
Trump (not because I am his follower) become president thanks Wharton business school ? Steve Jobs?? even not a degree…

The education is important….fundamental but in the screening of the best school the only sentence completely true to keep in mind is: “better the university higher the possibilities you will get later on”.
A part this, there are no other guarantees.
Of course, this is relatively valid for people who are looking for an academic path…for them the point is completely different.

In conclusion, UIBS or similar entities are fine only for some group of people who are looking for acquiring a real-world application knowledge, they want to set up their own business or they already have an interesting working experience and need to continue to develop the knowledge they already had in their previous education.
If instead, you want to use it as first card to show on your CV, I would agree with you that it is better to make a more “glittering” choice.
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Duncan

Sorry, but that is not the question. Anyone can be accredited by someone. I am sure I can find someone to accredit me for $100. The questions are: does UIBS have the state-granted right to issue degrees in the countries where it operates? Is UIBS the best choice for some of the people who read this site? The answers are no.

Sorry, but that is not the question. Anyone can be accredited by someone. I am sure I can find someone to accredit me for $100. The questions are: does UIBS have the state-granted right to issue degrees in the countries where it operates? Is UIBS the best choice for some of the people who read this site? The answers are no.
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cicciulla

Hi everybody,

short presentation: I am a Management Engineer, 26 y.o. and 2 years as working experience. Since I could lose my actual job due to company's crisis, I was looking for a MBA to continue developing myself (and has always been somehow a dream to me) and UIBS came to my eyes since I am now living in Zürich.

I was interested about it since it offers flexible starting dates and the possibility to study in different campuses worldwide (Madrid, Tokio...). The price looks fine (around 35.000 CHF, meaning 32.000 € which is definitely ok in a place like Switzerland). Moreover, since I would be happy to continue working in Switzerland, I considered a school in Zürich as valuable for companies in Switzerland itself.

According to their website, they are accreditated by:

- ACBSP
- ECBE

None of these accreditations are the ones you mentioned (AACSB, AMBA).

I was astonished when reading that the school I would like to apply for a full-time MBA (1 year) has such a bad reputation or somehow is not well-considered. I thought I found a good trade-off with UIBS but I probably need to change my mind. As far as I understand from the ongoing discussion, this school is almost worthless and my investment would be "wasted" or anyway the ROI could not be as high as expected.

Any possible hint / suggestion? I could not find other suitable options apart from top-level universities (Sankt Gallen, IMB Lausanne) where I would not have a chance due to age and previous working experience.

Many thanks in advance for your answers,

Luca

Hi everybody,

short presentation: I am a Management Engineer, 26 y.o. and 2 years as working experience. Since I could lose my actual job due to company's crisis, I was looking for a MBA to continue developing myself (and has always been somehow a dream to me) and UIBS came to my eyes since I am now living in Zürich.

I was interested about it since it offers flexible starting dates and the possibility to study in different campuses worldwide (Madrid, Tokio...). The price looks fine (around 35.000 CHF, meaning 32.000 € which is definitely ok in a place like Switzerland). Moreover, since I would be happy to continue working in Switzerland, I considered a school in Zürich as valuable for companies in Switzerland itself.

According to their website, they are accreditated by:

- ACBSP
- ECBE

None of these accreditations are the ones you mentioned (AACSB, AMBA).

I was astonished when reading that the school I would like to apply for a full-time MBA (1 year) has such a bad reputation or somehow is not well-considered. I thought I found a good trade-off with UIBS but I probably need to change my mind. As far as I understand from the ongoing discussion, this school is almost worthless and my investment would be "wasted" or anyway the ROI could not be as high as expected.

Any possible hint / suggestion? I could not find other suitable options apart from top-level universities (Sankt Gallen, IMB Lausanne) where I would not have a chance due to age and previous working experience.

Many thanks in advance for your answers,

Luca
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Duncan

You cannot get into an AMBA-accredited MBA with under three years. Take another masters instead. Look at the ETH and the real universities.

You cannot get into an AMBA-accredited MBA with under three years. Take another masters instead. Look at the ETH and the real universities.
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Biter

Hi Duncan, I was thinking about applying to UIBS and then saw what you've written so far and I think it makes sense. But it was a good opportunity for me because I was planning to apply for PhD in Management and my MSc degree is on Engineering so I'm not sure if the "real" universities will really consider me for business phd with my engineering background. I just wonder what you think about that based on your experience or if there is anyone who's done such a PhD before? Thanks!

Hi Duncan, I was thinking about applying to UIBS and then saw what you've written so far and I think it makes sense. But it was a good opportunity for me because I was planning to apply for PhD in Management and my MSc degree is on Engineering so I'm not sure if the "real" universities will really consider me for business phd with my engineering background. I just wonder what you think about that based on your experience or if there is anyone who's done such a PhD before? Thanks!
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