MIB vs MBA


Duncan

If you want to work outside France, then NUS is the better option. In Singapore it has the great options of owning a campus, being the country's top university, have an alumni network and being in the CEMS network internationally. It must be the preferred destination for MSc recruiters in south east Asia.

If you want to work outside France, then NUS is the better option. In Singapore it has the great options of owning a campus, being the country's top university, have an alumni network and being in the CEMS network internationally. It must be the preferred destination for MSc recruiters in south east Asia.
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Sir,
If i have options of msc in Nus, MBA in smu, MBA in nanyang? Which one should I go for?

Sir,
If i have options of msc in Nus, MBA in smu, MBA in nanyang? Which one should I go for?
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Duncan

Either MBA is better than an MSc, but MBA participants have five or six years work experience typically. Why would SMU or Nanyang offer you a place? You said you are a fresher.

Either MBA is better than an MSc, but MBA participants have five or six years work experience typically. Why would SMU or Nanyang offer you a place? You said you are a fresher.
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If given an option

If given an option
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Duncan

You're missing the point by posting that here, an MBA is better than an MSc from the same school, but what if the schools are not the same? Easy proof that an MSc from top school is worth much more an MBA from a poor school: an HEC Paris MSc has a average salary of $93k http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2013 and that is more than 16 of the top 100 MBAs in the world http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2014

You're missing the point by posting that here, an MBA is better than an MSc from the same school, but what if the schools are not the same? Easy proof that an MSc from top school is worth much more an MBA from a poor school: an HEC Paris MSc has a average salary of $93k http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/masters-in-finance-pre-experience-2013 and that is more than 16 of the top 100 MBAs in the world http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2014
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So what You're saying is that MSc from NUS is better than MIB from Grenoble , Singapore?

So what You're saying is that MSc from NUS is better than MIB from Grenoble , Singapore?
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Duncan

I think I've answered that already. Assuming that you want to work in the Asia-Pacific region, NUS is clearly a better choice than Grenoble's franchise in Singapore.

I think I've answered that already. Assuming that you want to work in the Asia-Pacific region, NUS is clearly a better choice than Grenoble's franchise in Singapore.
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seamusduf

Hi Duncan,

You certainly seem to know your stuff so I thought I'd throw a few questions your way. About me: I'm 27, have a bit over 3 years work experience (business school administration as a matter of fact) and am looking to advance my career. An MBA seems logical as it would give me a comprehensive perspective on business. However, working in the B-school I think has made me realize I'm much more interested in the academic side of things and think I would rather teach and perhaps do research. I was actually looking at 2 schools mostly - Manchester and Grenoble - knowing that they are both accredited, decently ranked, and much cheaper compared to programs here in the US. Not to mention, Manchester is very reputable in research. I'm mostly interested in Innovation and Entrepreneurship (both schools happen to offer MSc's in Innovation and Entrepreneurship) My questions:

1. Do you think it wise to study any masters abroad if ultimately seeking employment in the US? Are you aware of any prejudice against degrees obtained from non-top, non-US schools (eg not Insead, or LBS)?

2. There seems to be a lot more job data (positive at that) on MBA graduate employment prospects accross the board. What's your opinion on MScs? Worth it? Or better to do an MBA with a specialization/concentration? In my case, wanting to do academics, specialized MSc?

3. What do you know about job prospects for graduates from either Manchester or Grenoble? I know the MBAs have it just fine, though It seems grads are normally hired locally? Should I be worried graduating from Grenoble and not speaking French? From an MSc program?

Thanks for your advice, and sorry for the long-winded post.

Seamus

Hi Duncan,

You certainly seem to know your stuff so I thought I'd throw a few questions your way. About me: I'm 27, have a bit over 3 years work experience (business school administration as a matter of fact) and am looking to advance my career. An MBA seems logical as it would give me a comprehensive perspective on business. However, working in the B-school I think has made me realize I'm much more interested in the academic side of things and think I would rather teach and perhaps do research. I was actually looking at 2 schools mostly - Manchester and Grenoble - knowing that they are both accredited, decently ranked, and much cheaper compared to programs here in the US. Not to mention, Manchester is very reputable in research. I'm mostly interested in Innovation and Entrepreneurship (both schools happen to offer MSc's in Innovation and Entrepreneurship) My questions:

1. Do you think it wise to study any masters abroad if ultimately seeking employment in the US? Are you aware of any prejudice against degrees obtained from non-top, non-US schools (eg not Insead, or LBS)?

2. There seems to be a lot more job data (positive at that) on MBA graduate employment prospects accross the board. What's your opinion on MScs? Worth it? Or better to do an MBA with a specialization/concentration? In my case, wanting to do academics, specialized MSc?

3. What do you know about job prospects for graduates from either Manchester or Grenoble? I know the MBAs have it just fine, though It seems grads are normally hired locally? Should I be worried graduating from Grenoble and not speaking French? From an MSc program?

Thanks for your advice, and sorry for the long-winded post.

Seamus
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Duncan

If you want to teach or do research in North America, then do a PhD in the US or an MSc in management research in Canada.

1. I don't think any top-tier international MBA is as safe a route into US employment as a mid-tier US MBA. It's not prejudice, but suitability and access.

There's lots of data on the FT-ranked MSc degrees. These are pre-experience degrees, aimed at a different demographic from the post-experience MBA market. If you want to go into four-year college or universities, do a PhD. Otherwise, an MBA or MSc will be fine for two-year colleges.

3. There's lots of data about Manchester and Grenoble students. I'm a Manchester alum, so I have great insight there (See I visited Manchester Business School www.find-mba.com/board/33491). I'm also an alum of EDHEC, another Grande Ecole which is slightly higher ranked than Grenoble (See I visited EDHEC www.find-mba.com/board/34886 ). I don't see how you can find an MBA role in France from Grenoble without speaking native-level French (see Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 )

If you want to teach or do research in North America, then do a PhD in the US or an MSc in management research in Canada.

1. I don't think any top-tier international MBA is as safe a route into US employment as a mid-tier US MBA. It's not prejudice, but suitability and access.

There's lots of data on the FT-ranked MSc degrees. These are pre-experience degrees, aimed at a different demographic from the post-experience MBA market. If you want to go into four-year college or universities, do a PhD. Otherwise, an MBA or MSc will be fine for two-year colleges.

3. There's lots of data about Manchester and Grenoble students. I'm a Manchester alum, so I have great insight there (See I visited Manchester Business School www.find-mba.com/board/33491). I'm also an alum of EDHEC, another Grande Ecole which is slightly higher ranked than Grenoble (See I visited EDHEC www.find-mba.com/board/34886 ). I don't see how you can find an MBA role in France from Grenoble without speaking native-level French (see Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 )
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seamusduf

Thank you Duncan, that's very helpful. Would you have any advice on how to get into a decent PhD program? I imagine one would need significant research experience?

Thank you Duncan, that's very helpful. Would you have any advice on how to get into a decent PhD program? I imagine one would need significant research experience?

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Duncan

Google is really your friend here. The answer's very long.

Google is really your friend here. The answer's very long.
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Renan

Hi Duncan,

Please give me a hand here, I need some advice.

I was accepted at GGSB's (Grenoble) and Hult's MIB and I have chosen Hult. I have just communicated my boss and he said that I should work for more an year or two to go for a MBA at Wharton (or Harvard, or Stanford).

A quick profile of me:

1 - I work on an Asset (Investment/Portfolio) Management and have 9 months of working experience as an intern and 1 year and 4 months of full-time. My carrer grew very quickly and I have already been responsible for our market risk area and now I am projecting inflation to ground our bets on assets and to construct scenarios (one of our main source of risk are assets reactives to inflation).

2 - I have a Bachelor Cum Laude Degree of Academic Dignity in Applied Mathematics with emphasis in business. Graduated in 3 years and a half while the recommended time is 4 years.

3 - Have been awarded 3 scholarships while at college.

4 - Done a scientific initiation on the First Theorem of Asset Pricing.

5 - Studied several subjects of the Masters Program in Finance in the COPPEAD Graduate School of Business, during college and among the masters students (COPPEAD is the only Latin American business school in the FT ranking).

6 - I am 22 years old (23 in June).

I am a bit lost now and don't know which is the better option for myself. My boss seems to have some reason but he has interest in keeping me here and I really don't know what to do now. Should I go for the 1-year MIB at Hult, which is certain now, or start a new application process to a MBA at some of those top-tier b-schools, to start in 2015 or 2016?

ps: I haven't done a GMAT yet, only TOEFL.

Thank you very much for your help!

Hi Duncan,

Please give me a hand here, I need some advice.

I was accepted at GGSB's (Grenoble) and Hult's MIB and I have chosen Hult. I have just communicated my boss and he said that I should work for more an year or two to go for a MBA at Wharton (or Harvard, or Stanford).

A quick profile of me:

1 - I work on an Asset (Investment/Portfolio) Management and have 9 months of working experience as an intern and 1 year and 4 months of full-time. My carrer grew very quickly and I have already been responsible for our market risk area and now I am projecting inflation to ground our bets on assets and to construct scenarios (one of our main source of risk are assets reactives to inflation).

2 - I have a Bachelor Cum Laude Degree of Academic Dignity in Applied Mathematics with emphasis in business. Graduated in 3 years and a half while the recommended time is 4 years.

3 - Have been awarded 3 scholarships while at college.

4 - Done a scientific initiation on the First Theorem of Asset Pricing.

5 - Studied several subjects of the Masters Program in Finance in the COPPEAD Graduate School of Business, during college and among the masters students (COPPEAD is the only Latin American business school in the FT ranking).

6 - I am 22 years old (23 in June).

I am a bit lost now and don't know which is the better option for myself. My boss seems to have some reason but he has interest in keeping me here and I really don't know what to do now. Should I go for the 1-year MIB at Hult, which is certain now, or start a new application process to a MBA at some of those top-tier b-schools, to start in 2015 or 2016?

ps: I haven't done a GMAT yet, only TOEFL.

Thank you very much for your help!
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Duncan

Your boss may have his own interests at heart, but he is correct. Other things being equal, you will be much better off applying for a top MBA in 2016.

Your boss may have his own interests at heart, but he is correct. Other things being equal, you will be much better off applying for a top MBA in 2016.
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Renan

Thank you!

Thank you!
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Hi Duncan,

If I apply for the Msc programme in NUS, is there no chance of me getting into it without GMAT?

Hi Duncan,

If I apply for the Msc programme in NUS, is there no chance of me getting into it without GMAT?
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Duncan

Read its website.

Read its website.
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