GMAT 540; 70+% Grad; 2+ yrs work-ex in IT; Chances at top-20 B-schools?

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Posted Nov 02, 2014 08:15

Hi Everyone..

Let me present some info about myself first before I can proceed to ask some reviews and questions.

I am Male/Engr/IT background. Have 70+% B.Tech degree (2.1/4.0 GPA as per GMAC); 25 months work-ex in IT; a GMAT Score of 540 in first attempt; Just took it a few days back.

I understand that my GMAT is on the lower side of the scale, for top 20 b-schools and it needs to be increased. But review this case, for now.

Primary Question: What chances have I got at, atleast getting a shot, Top-20 B-school MBA Progs? How much importance does GMAT Score hold in Admission Process?

Secondary Q: Considering that i gave this GMAT attempt while preparing for CAT and 1 month GMAT-centric preps, how much time should be given for securing 700+ GMAT score?

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Duncan

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Posted Nov 02, 2014 14:42

Since you are above average on none of the criteria which matter, you stand almost no chance at a top 20 school. I am not sure a 700 GMAT will change that.

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Thebadluck...

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Posted Nov 02, 2014 21:11

The problem in admission is that some universities look at your GMAT in a prejudicial way, for instance when there are many applicants who get high GMAT scores apply with you, this will reduce your chances as universities consider GMAT to be highly representative of your abilities unfortunately.

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Himanshu K...

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Posted Nov 03, 2014 08:33

Since you are above average on none of the criteria which matter, you stand almost no chance at a top 20 school. I am not sure a 700 GMAT will change that.

@duncan: what do you consider 'above-average' ?

[quote]Since you are above average on none of the criteria which matter, you stand almost no chance at a top 20 school. I am not sure a 700 GMAT will change that. [/quote]

@duncan: what do you consider 'above-average' ?

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Himanshu K...

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Posted Nov 03, 2014 08:37

Thebadluck245.. yes i am aware that IT/Male Engr/Indian is one of the two segments which has been placing astonishingly strong applications alongwith 730+ GMAT scores - as per one of the Top-bschool admissions officer. This makes it very difficult.

Thanks!! Any suggestion for me?

[Edited by Himanshu Kohli on Nov 03, 2014]

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Razors Edg...

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Posted Nov 04, 2014 11:36

The problem in admission is that some universities look at your GMAT in a prejudicial way, for instance when there are many applicants who get high GMAT scores apply with you, this will reduce your chances as universities consider GMAT to be highly representative of your abilities unfortunately.

It's not prejudice. A strong score on the GMAT is a great predictor of success in an MBA program. If you get a low score, then admissions people have every right to question whether or not you will succeed.

Fortunately, admissions committees tend to be smart about these things and if you do score low they'll look at other parts of your profile to see if there are other indicators that you'll be successful in the MBA program. Let's look at this candidate in particular:

1. 540 GMAT score: this score is under the 50th percentile of all applicants who take the GMAT, so it's unlikely that s/he will do as well or better than most other candidates. So let's look at other parts of the application to see if we've overlooked something.

2. 2.1 GPA, which is lower than a B average. For some reason, this candidate did not do as well as most people who are successfully admitted to MBA programs, so that's another red flag. Perhaps there was some underlying cause for poor performance, which could be compensated for with fantastic work experience or demonstrated leadership skills. So let's look at that.

3. Just over 2 years of work experience. Well, that's really just above the bare minimum, and really not enough time to demonstrate the growth and leadership skills that could compensate for poor undergraduate performance and a low GMAT score.

So it's not entirely about the low GMAT score, it's that this candidate is underperforming on pretty much every aspect. But of course there are many things that can be done, including retaking the GMAT, getting more work experience, and filling out his/her profile in other ways.

[quote]The problem in admission is that some universities look at your GMAT in a prejudicial way, for instance when there are many applicants who get high GMAT scores apply with you, this will reduce your chances as universities consider GMAT to be highly representative of your abilities unfortunately.[/quote]
It's not prejudice. A strong score on the GMAT is a great predictor of success in an MBA program. If you get a low score, then admissions people have every right to question whether or not you will succeed.

Fortunately, admissions committees tend to be smart about these things and if you do score low they'll look at other parts of your profile to see if there are other indicators that you'll be successful in the MBA program. Let's look at this candidate in particular:

1. 540 GMAT score: this score is under the 50th percentile of all applicants who take the GMAT, so it's unlikely that s/he will do as well or better than most other candidates. So let's look at other parts of the application to see if we've overlooked something.

2. 2.1 GPA, which is lower than a B average. For some reason, this candidate did not do as well as most people who are successfully admitted to MBA programs, so that's another red flag. Perhaps there was some underlying cause for poor performance, which could be compensated for with fantastic work experience or demonstrated leadership skills. So let's look at that.

3. Just over 2 years of work experience. Well, that's really just above the bare minimum, and really not enough time to demonstrate the growth and leadership skills that could compensate for poor undergraduate performance and a low GMAT score.

So it's not entirely about the low GMAT score, it's that this candidate is underperforming on pretty much every aspect. But of course there are many things that can be done, including retaking the GMAT, getting more work experience, and filling out his/her profile in other ways.

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Himanshu K...

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Posted Nov 04, 2014 11:56

Hi razors edge.. Thanks for the frank outlook..

Well, GMAT is what it is..
My grad percentage is 70.25%, which is higher than the average % as far as Indian students are concerned.. Can't say about the other parts of the world..
Therefore how can 2.1 GPA be decisive in considering an applicant's future success probability when it is different for every region?

[Edited by Himanshu Kohli on Nov 04, 2014]

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Duncan

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Posted Nov 04, 2014 13:43

To be above average on the criteria that matter would mean: to exceed, not only the average applicant, but to exceed the average admitted student, in terms of their desirability to admissions managers and recruiting managers. These criteria differ slightly from school to school, and will be explicit. The key ones are: GMAT; work experience (length, quality of company); prior education (GPA, quality of university); diversity added; leadership experience.

Just on the point about a GPA: it's not decisive, not in the way that the GMAT is. But the GMAT scores they are looking for are those of students comfortably in the top ten percent of GMAT test-takers.

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