ESCP vs Warwick Business School (WBS)


KKaur183

Hi everyone,

I have offers for a Master in Management from Warwick Business School and ESCP Europe. I have decided that I will either come back to India straightway after graduating or the second but less likely choice is to work in The UK (where few of my family members reside) for a few years and then return to India.

It would be great if you could suggest what would be a better option for me, considering the context I gave before.

Also, please tell me which school would put me in the better place - 1. In the Indian job market, 2. In the UK job market, 3. In my career in general

Thank you very much in advance!

Hi everyone,

I have offers for a Master in Management from Warwick Business School and ESCP Europe. I have decided that I will either come back to India straightway after graduating or the second but less likely choice is to work in The UK (where few of my family members reside) for a few years and then return to India.

It would be great if you could suggest what would be a better option for me, considering the context I gave before.

Also, please tell me which school would put me in the better place - 1. In the Indian job market, 2. In the UK job market, 3. In my career in general

Thank you very much in advance!
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overlord47

Hello,

Well if you want to work in UK then you should choose a UK University. The WBS MSc in Management is a good course if you want to find a job in the UK market. However, if you want to work in India then this is a harsh reality but the employers in India don't recognise the 1 years Masters programmes of UK. So if you goal is to work in India after your PG then I would suggest you go for a Masters degree from an Indian University. And regarding ESCP well again for UK job market the ESCP degrees is not recognised. 

Now to answer your question for the points your have stated:
1. In the Indian job market none of the schools will put in a better place2. In the UK Market Warwick will be the best choice and 3. In general the MSc in Management from Warwick will be good but you can also try the MIM programmes from AMBS, Imperial, Bristol, LBS, etc. 

[Edited by overlord47 on Apr 25, 2023]

Hello,<br><br>Well if you want to work in UK then you should choose a UK University. The WBS MSc in Management is a good course if you want to find a job in the UK market. However, if you want to work in India then this is a harsh reality but the employers in India don't recognise the 1 years Masters programmes of UK. So if you goal is to work in India after your PG then I would suggest you go for a Masters degree from an Indian University. And regarding ESCP well again for UK job market the ESCP degrees is not recognised.&nbsp;<br><br>Now to answer your question for the points your have stated:<br>1. In the Indian job market none of the schools will put in a better place<div>2. In the UK Market Warwick will be the best choice and&nbsp;</div>3. In general the MSc in Management from Warwick will be good but you can also try the MIM programmes from AMBS, Imperial, Bristol, LBS, etc.&nbsp;
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Duncan

And regarding ESCP well again for UK job market the ESCP degrees is not recognised.
 

Another post from you pouring water on ESCP. ESCP has been issuing UK-accredited MiM degrees for almost 50 years. Students on the ESCP MiM who spend two semesters in the UK qualify for the UK post-study work visa. 

The key consideration for this person is really their UK career goal. For roles like marketing and product management in the triangle between retail, IT and services like Amazon and L'Oréal, ESCP has a good relationship, it's a good option. Warwick is a strong option for finance, the Big Four and arguably digital marketing. 

PS One other thing: educationally, and as a personally transformative experience, extended masters at top schools like LBS and ESCP, which offer four terms or four semesters plus an internship, are a much richer experience than the traditional UK approach of two terms plus a dissertation. 

[Edited by Duncan on Apr 26, 2023]

[quote]And regarding ESCP well again for UK job market the ESCP degrees is not recognised.[/quote]&nbsp;<br><br>Another post from you pouring water on ESCP. ESCP has been issuing UK-accredited MiM degrees for almost 50 years. Students on the ESCP MiM who spend two semesters in the UK qualify for the UK post-study work visa.&nbsp;<br><br>The key consideration for this person is really their UK career goal. For roles like marketing and product management in the triangle between retail, IT and services like Amazon and L'Oréal, ESCP has a good relationship, it's a good option. Warwick is a strong option for finance, the Big Four and arguably digital marketing.&nbsp;<br><br>PS One other thing: educationally, and as a personally transformative experience, extended masters at top schools like LBS and ESCP, which offer four terms or four semesters plus an internship, are a much richer experience than the traditional UK approach of two terms plus a dissertation.&nbsp;
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Andy776

I strongly agree with overlord47. Warwick will have a much stronger reputation for both UK and Indian employers. I would strongly recommend Warwick over ESCP for a UK or Indian placement (would be different if you asked about France) :)

[Edited by Andy776 on Apr 26, 2023]

I strongly agree with overlord47. Warwick will have a much stronger reputation for both UK and Indian employers. I would strongly recommend Warwick over ESCP for a UK or Indian placement (would be different if you asked about France) :)
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overlord47

Hello Duncan, the 2 semester of ESCP in the UK might get you the PSW but why would you spend 2 years plus a lot more money on a Master's degree when you have better 1 year degrees. I think that's a poor advice. Spending 2 years on a Master's degree when there are better and more value for money 1 year degrees is a poor decision in my opinion. I don't know why you are so inclined towards ESCP maybe you will have your own reasons for that but keeping the candidate's requirements in mind the best advice would be in this case a Master's degree from a UK based University like Imperial, Warwick, AMBS, etc as these degrees will always be regarded move valuable for the UK employers than a degree from ESCP's. 

Moreover, it doesn't make sense to spend money and time on the ESCP degree if you have better options from UK Universities which will open better job opportunities in the UK job market !!

One more thing I would like to add here if a candidate is eager for a 4 semesters or 2 years master degree then the best countries for that are the US or Canada and not France or any other European country. 

[Edited by overlord47 on Apr 26, 2023]

Hello Duncan, the 2 semester of ESCP in the UK might get you the PSW but why would you spend 2 years plus a lot more money on a Master's degree when you have better 1 year degrees. I think that's a poor advice. Spending 2 years on a Master's degree when there are better and more value for money 1 year degrees is a poor decision in my opinion. I don't know why you are so inclined towards ESCP maybe you will have your own reasons for that but keeping the candidate's requirements in mind the best advice would be in this case a Master's degree from a UK based University like Imperial, Warwick, AMBS, etc as these degrees will always be regarded move valuable for the UK employers than a degree from ESCP's.&nbsp;<br><br>Moreover, it doesn't make sense to spend money and time on the ESCP degree if you have better options from UK Universities which will open better job opportunities in the UK job market !!<br><br>One more thing I would like to add here if a candidate is eager for a 4 semesters or 2 years master degree then the best countries for that are the US or Canada and not France or any other European country.&nbsp;
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Duncan

I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. I made two points:
- The key consideration for this person is really their UK career goal.
- extended masters at top schools like LBS and ESCP, which offer four terms or four semesters plus an internship, are a much richer experience than the traditional UK approach.

I am not advocating for ESCP. I am saying that this person needs to refine their career goals. If ESCP is the best available school for their immediate goal, then that's the right option. 

Separate from goals, I don't think there any material basis for saying that UK univeesities will lead to better outcomes when the career goals are not stated. Perhaps this person wants to build into a new field: four terms is better than two for that. Perhaps they want more salary, ESCP MiiMs earn $96k compared to 69k at Warwick, and have higher placement. The ESCP cohort is more accomplished on the way in, with a higher pre-MiM salary. It's one of the options. 

I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. I made two points:<br>- The key consideration for this person is really their UK career goal.<br>- extended masters at top schools like LBS and ESCP, which offer four terms or four semesters plus an internship, are a much richer experience than the traditional UK approach.<br><br>I am not advocating for ESCP. I am saying that this person needs to refine their career goals. If ESCP is the best available school for their immediate goal, then that's the right option.&nbsp;<br><br>Separate from goals, I don't think there any material basis for saying that UK univeesities will lead to better outcomes when the career goals are not stated. Perhaps this person wants to build into a new field: four terms is better than two for that. Perhaps they want more salary, ESCP MiiMs earn $96k compared to 69k at Warwick, and have higher placement. The ESCP cohort is more accomplished on the way in, with a higher pre-MiM salary. It's one of the options.&nbsp;
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overlord47

The candidate here mentioned the requirements and the first and foremost requirement is to either work in the UK or move to India. Now the ESCP MiM will not fulfill any of these requirements. A MiM from Warwick, Imperial or AMBS will be much more beneficial for the candidate if he or she wants to work in the UK or move to India. 

Secondly the ROI of ESCP MiM is much lesser than that of any UK 1 year MiM degree. It doesn't make sense to spend close to 60k GBP on a MiM when you can get the same or more or less the same exposure, experience and job opportunities from a UK MiM degree. If you use LinkedIn then you will see that most of the MiM graduates from Warwick or any top UK B school tends to get better job opportunities in the UK than the ESCP MiM graduate and since the candidate here have clearly stated the desire to work in the UK or India hence the Warwick or any top UK MiM programme will be suitable. 

[Edited by overlord47 on Apr 26, 2023]

The candidate here mentioned the requirements and the first and foremost requirement is to either work in the UK or move to India. Now the ESCP MiM will not fulfill any of these requirements. A MiM from Warwick, Imperial or AMBS will be much more beneficial for the candidate if he or she wants to work in the UK or move to India.&nbsp;<br><br>Secondly the ROI of ESCP MiM is much lesser than that of any UK 1 year MiM degree. It doesn't make sense to spend close to 60k GBP on a MiM when you can get the same or more or less the same exposure, experience and job opportunities from a UK MiM degree. If you use LinkedIn then you will see that most of the MiM graduates from Warwick or any top UK B school tends to get better job opportunities in the UK than the ESCP MiM graduate and since the candidate here have clearly stated the desire to work in the UK or India hence the Warwick or any top UK MiM programme will be suitable.&nbsp;
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