Westminster vs le cnam vs HWR Berlin


lucy
Dear all,

I am looking into different MBA programs in Europe (budget friendly).

I am from Croatia, ~4 years of experience in consulting (tier 2/ not MBB).

My primary motive is to learn something new (especially in one of Europe capitals) and improve my CV. After graduation, I plan to stay in Croatia.

As I mentioned, my choice is limited by budget and time requirements (I was looking for part-time programs).

I would like to get your opinion on three potential schools: Westminster London, le cnam Paris, HWR Berlin (potentially Koc Istanbul - but I prefer the previously mentioned three schools).

Thank you for your opinions/ suggestions.
Kr,
Dejan
Dear all,

I am looking into different MBA programs in Europe (budget friendly).

I am from Croatia, ~4 years of experience in consulting (tier 2/ not MBB).

My primary motive is to learn something new (especially in one of Europe capitals) and improve my CV. After graduation, I plan to stay in Croatia.

As I mentioned, my choice is limited by budget and time requirements (I was looking for part-time programs).

I would like to get your opinion on three potential schools: Westminster London, le cnam Paris, HWR Berlin (potentially Koc Istanbul - but I prefer the previously mentioned three schools).

Thank you for your opinions/ suggestions.
Kr,
Dejan
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cvm
Not sure how much your budget is but if you are around 21K Euro (which is the tuition for the CNAM MBA) and if you plan to stay in Croatia, maybe you can look , as well, at the dual degree option, MBA from IGSB Zagreb + MSc in Strategic Management from Kelley / Indiana University (I remember that few years back this option was possible with the cost being in a range of 20-25K USD - I am wrong, maybe!?). So, for a similar cost, more or less, you can have two degrees out of which one will be from a world class business school.

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Not sure how much your budget is but if you are around 21K Euro (which is the tuition for the CNAM MBA) and if you plan to stay in Croatia, maybe you can look , as well, at the dual degree option, MBA from IGSB Zagreb + MSc in Strategic Management from Kelley / Indiana University (I remember that few years back this option was possible with the cost being in a range of 20-25K USD - I am wrong, maybe!?). So, for a similar cost, more or less, you can have two degrees out of which one will be from a world class business school.
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lucy
CVM, thank you for your suggestion. The whole idea is to study outside Croatia, that is why I am looking at those schools.
CVM, thank you for your suggestion. The whole idea is to study outside Croatia, that is why I am looking at those schools.
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RobertoG83
Not in Europe, but the Illinois iMBA is 22k and is a great option for that budget
Not in Europe, but the Illinois iMBA is 22k and is a great option for that budget
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Duncan
At that price CEU or MIB would be options. CNAM is really sad. I recommend visiting just to see how miserable a business school can get. Koç will probably be the best, but Westminster is well located and has great leadership.
At that price CEU or MIB would be options. CNAM is really sad. I recommend visiting just to see how miserable a business school can get. Koç will probably be the best, but Westminster is well located and has great leadership.
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cvm
ALBA, maybe?
ALBA, maybe?
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lucy
At that price CEU or MIB would be options. CNAM is really sad. I recommend visiting just to see how miserable a business school can get. Koç will probably be the best, but Westminster is well located and has great leadership.


Duncan thank you for your input. You believe that MIB would be better option than the schools I mentioned? So cnam is not a very good option, what about HWR?

Regarding Westminster and Koc, one of my colleagues studied one semester at Koc and he says its very good, but you say Westminster is also ok?
[quote]At that price CEU or MIB would be options. CNAM is really sad. I recommend visiting just to see how miserable a business school can get. Koç will probably be the best, but Westminster is well located and has great leadership. [/quote]

Duncan thank you for your input. You believe that MIB would be better option than the schools I mentioned? So cnam is not a very good option, what about HWR?

Regarding Westminster and Koc, one of my colleagues studied one semester at Koc and he says its very good, but you say Westminster is also ok?
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Duncan
Koc is one of the leading universities in a 1,000km radius, if not the best. Westminster isn't even the best business school on Euston Road. I think a lot of this has to come down to career goals, but at HWR I don't think you'll have the same quality of classmates.
Koc is one of the leading universities in a 1,000km radius, if not the best. Westminster isn't even the best business school on Euston Road. I think a lot of this has to come down to career goals, but at HWR I don't think you'll have the same quality of classmates.
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lucy
Duncan,

Thank you for your input. So Koc would be the best choice between the stated schools. One additional question, I found that Strathclyde has "flexible" programe, which costs ~20k EUR, which is really cheap for that kind of schools.

If you can provide your view on Koc vs Strathclyde?
Thanks..
Duncan,

Thank you for your input. So Koc would be the best choice between the stated schools. One additional question, I found that Strathclyde has "flexible" programe, which costs ~20k EUR, which is really cheap for that kind of schools.

If you can provide your view on Koc vs Strathclyde?
Thanks..
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Duncan
I don't see the point taking a distance learning MBA if you can have a richer experience like Koc. But how about CEU?
I don't see the point taking a distance learning MBA if you can have a richer experience like Koc. But how about CEU?
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lucy
CEU Department of Economics and Business will not offer the Katalyst Executive MBA programs in 2018/19.

I was looking at Strathclyde because the school is 3ple accredited and the programe is not expensive..
CEU Department of Economics and Business will not offer the Katalyst Executive MBA programs in 2018/19.

I was looking at Strathclyde because the school is 3ple accredited and the programe is not expensive..
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Duncan
Did you consider the Euro*MBA? Maybe a bit over your budget. Henley also has a flexible option.
Did you consider the Euro*MBA? Maybe a bit over your budget. Henley also has a flexible option.
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lucy
For that budget (~30 k eur) i would probaly go for WU Wiena..

But for original question, to recap
• le cnam is not very good school
• westminster best out of three
•hwr berlin is ok, but classmates are not the best

° koc is probably the best in that price range
For that budget (~30 k eur) i would probaly go for WU Wiena..

But for original question, to recap
• le cnam is not very good school
• westminster best out of three
•hwr berlin is ok, but classmates are not the best

° koc is probably the best in that price range
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maury
Koç is an interesting choice. I wonder how much of the class is made up of international students?

What are your career goals?
Koç is an interesting choice. I wonder how much of the class is made up of international students?

What are your career goals?
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Duncan
My guess, lots of people from the Turkish diaspora and Turksih people with impressive experience.
My guess, lots of people from the Turkish diaspora and Turksih people with impressive experience.
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lucy
Good point maury, a rare university which doesnt provide the statistics on its students/alumni..

How do yoou rank the stated programs?
Good point maury, a rare university which doesnt provide the statistics on its students/alumni..

How do yoou rank the stated programs?
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Duncan
I think you can only rank them relative to goals. Personally,Koç > Westminster >big gap> HWR > CNAM.
I think you can only rank them relative to goals. Personally,Koç > Westminster >big gap> HWR > CNAM.
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George Pat...

My primary motive is to learn something new (especially in one of Europe capitals) and improve my CV. After graduation, I plan to stay in Croatia.



If your plan is to learn something new, and the living experience in a europe capital, maybe consider an MSc in Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark).
Those are free for Europeans, so you can study in top universities, learn great things in some of the best cities of Europe. (of course an MBA is better choice for career advancement - but free is free!)
And since they are free, you can save the tuition money and still do a DL MBA (strathclyde or illinois)

Other than that, I would consider Glasgow, Birmingham and Strathclyde. (Although i don't really like Glasgow and Birmingham cities, I dislike Turkey more)
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My primary motive is to learn something new (especially in one of Europe capitals) and improve my CV. After graduation, I plan to stay in Croatia.

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If your plan is to learn something new, and the living experience in a europe capital, maybe consider an MSc in Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark).
Those are free for Europeans, so you can study in top universities, learn great things in some of the best cities of Europe. (of course an MBA is better choice for career advancement - but free is free!)
And since they are free, you can save the tuition money and still do a DL MBA (strathclyde or illinois)

Other than that, I would consider Glasgow, Birmingham and Strathclyde. (Although i don't really like Glasgow and Birmingham cities, I dislike Turkey more)
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Duncan
I think you could say that Istanbul is a city for the future: Glasgow and Birmingham are cities of the 19th century. In terms of quality of life.... I think you'd have to pick very carefully in any of those cities.
I think you could say that Istanbul is a city for the future: Glasgow and Birmingham are cities of the 19th century. In terms of quality of life.... I think you'd have to pick very carefully in any of those cities.
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George Pat...
I just remembered, Strathclyde also offers in
Athens: https://www.strath.ac.uk/business/internationalcentres/greece/mba/

And Zurich https://www.strath.ac.uk/business/internationalcentres/switzerland/mba/

Strath costs less than 20k, and is very well ranked
Maybe check it out
I just remembered, Strathclyde also offers in
Athens: https://www.strath.ac.uk/business/internationalcentres/greece/mba/

And Zurich https://www.strath.ac.uk/business/internationalcentres/switzerland/mba/

Strath costs less than 20k, and is very well ranked
Maybe check it out
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