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Posted May 02, 2011 00:08

I'm a student in EU Barcelona and i d like to add something on all of that. First most of the teachers teach in other uni such as ESADE.

When I was there there was exactly one teacher that also gave classes at ESADE, and yes he belonged to the better ones. Many teachers were really bad.

Second: http://www.topmba.com/mba-rankings/top-business-schools-report-2010/regions/top-business-schools-in-europe

Haha, the so famous "Topmba ranking". If you look up Wikipedia you ll see how EU really is. And you will never find EU on serious rankings such as the one from Financial times.

Another thing: people that say only rich kid go there....... Go fuck yourself and if you cant find a job it's because you just spend way too much time on the internet!!!!!!!!!!!!

When having to pay more than 5000? you must be a rich kid to go there. So am I, that is not the bad ting about it, the bad thing are the snobs and the kids that only go there to party instead of learnig.
I mean anyways the way how you insult people here in the forum shows what kind of person you are and one can see that you perfectly fit into the cluster of tyical EU students ;)

<blockquote>I'm a student in EU Barcelona and i d like to add something on all of that. First most of the teachers teach in other uni such as ESADE.
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When I was there there was exactly one teacher that also gave classes at ESADE, and yes he belonged to the better ones. Many teachers were really bad.

<blockquote>Second: http://www.topmba.com/mba-rankings/top-business-schools-report-2010/regions/top-business-schools-in-europe</blockquote>

Haha, the so famous "Topmba ranking". If you look up Wikipedia you ll see how EU really is. And you will never find EU on serious rankings such as the one from Financial times.

<blockquote>Another thing: people that say only rich kid go there....... Go fuck yourself and if you cant find a job it's because you just spend way too much time on the internet!!!!!!!!!!!!</blockquote>

When having to pay more than 5000? you must be a rich kid to go there. So am I, that is not the bad ting about it, the bad thing are the snobs and the kids that only go there to party instead of learnig.
I mean anyways the way how you insult people here in the forum shows what kind of person you are and one can see that you perfectly fit into the cluster of tyical EU students ;)

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Duncan

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Posted May 03, 2011 00:40

I wan to agree with the general tone here, that EU University cannot be taken seriously. It is not present in any major ranking, and the fact that one teacher is at ESADE is, at best, a reason to go to ESADE. There is no suggestion the school is selective in any way.

The fact that one student brings himself to swear in this first posting on this site says something about the leadership training they offer.

ACBSP accreditation is not serious accreditation: just look at the list of schools it recongises. Even the name is just a pun on the AACSB. Nor is ACBSP accredited by the CHEA. CHEA has simple said that the ACBSP is able to apply: http://www.acbsp.org/p/cm/ld/fid=76

The idea that Swiss schools do not get accreditation is mistaken. The top (in my opinion) three schools are AACSB accredited: IMD; University of St. Gallen; University of Zurich while AMBA accredits the HECs at Lausanne and Geneva, IMD and the Lorange Institute.

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Nelson BK

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Posted Jun 25, 2011 15:23

"[Nor is ACBSP accredited by the CHEA.]" - This is not a correct statement. ACBSP has been recognised by CHEA since 2001. The link provided is for renewal after 10 years and is standard practice for all bodies. As for the comment that Swiss schools do not get accreditation, that is also incorrect. Legitimate schools wherever they are will seek accreditation.

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Duncan

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Posted Jun 25, 2011 17:45

The ACBSP is "recognised" by the CHEA, not "accredited" by it. Those are two different words.

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Duncan

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Posted Jun 25, 2011 17:53

This is also worth reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_University#Accreditation_status

"The Swiss Embassy in Singapore issued information in 2008 stating that the European University lacked educational accreditation in its home jurisdiction of Switzerland, where the Centre of Accreditation and Quality Assurance of the Swiss Universities has responsibility for accreditation.[6] From 1993 to 2007, the European University in Barcelona had authorization from Catalonian authorities to offer programs leading to Bachelor and Master of Business Administration degrees, but this authorization was withdrawn in 2007 due to the institution's lack of official recognition in Switzerland.[7] In August 2009, leading Malaysian newspaper The Star included European University in a list of dubious institutions which were not in recognised accreditation registries.[8]"

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Matt Bella...

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Posted Jun 26, 2011 03:50

Hi Duncan, In the US, accrediting bodies are recognised by either the US Department of Education or the Council for Higher Education (whose recognition is accepted by the US Department of Education). The US Department of Education deals ONLY with accreditation of universities that covers the ambit of federal aid. Hence the withdrawal of recognition of programmatic accreditors including the AACSB and ACBSP by the US Department of Education due to this policy. The CHEA then took on this responsibility and its recognition now includes programmatic accreditiors like AACSB and ACBSP along with other regional and specialised accreditors.

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Duncan

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Posted Jun 26, 2011 22:09

Matt, what's your connection to the European University?

I am just fascinated by your
1] Your inability to admit that AACSB, AMBA and EQUIS accredit a qualitatively higher level of MBA - basically all the top schools have that.
2] Lack of interest in whether or not the EU in Spain issues diplomas which have the legal status of degrees in Spain.

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Matt Bella...

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Posted Jun 27, 2011 03:56

Matt, what's your connection to the European University?

I am just fascinated by your
1] Your inability to admit that AACSB, AMBA and EQUIS accredit a qualitatively higher level of MBA - basically all the top schools have that.
2] Lack of interest in whether or not the EU in Spain issues diplomas which have the legal status of degrees in Spain.

Frankly I am surprised that I have to provide factual information on US accreditation on this thread. Further I am also surprised that you, in turn, do not seem to realise that the ACBSP is a recognised accreditor in the US. You have on 2 separate occasions indicated that as such.

The focus is on information relating to accreditation rather than on European University. It just happens that inaccurate and misleading posts may contort what accreditation means in the US model and I am trying to provide information to correct this in good faith.

My own experience and training is on accreditation issues and distance learning and I am contributing on this front. I am fully aware of the actual status of what regional accreditation holds as opposed to National accreditation and programmatic accreditation.

Finally, yes, all top schools will hold the much cherished "Triple Crown" accreditation. However, this doesn't mean that other schools that do not, are to be disparaged.

I hope this clarifies matters for you.

<blockquote>Matt, what's your connection to the European University?

I am just fascinated by your
1] Your inability to admit that AACSB, AMBA and EQUIS accredit a qualitatively higher level of MBA - basically all the top schools have that.
2] Lack of interest in whether or not the EU in Spain issues diplomas which have the legal status of degrees in Spain.</blockquote>

Frankly I am surprised that I have to provide factual information on US accreditation on this thread. Further I am also surprised that you, in turn, do not seem to realise that the ACBSP is a recognised accreditor in the US. You have on 2 separate occasions indicated that as such.

The focus is on information relating to accreditation rather than on European University. It just happens that inaccurate and misleading posts may contort what accreditation means in the US model and I am trying to provide information to correct this in good faith.

My own experience and training is on accreditation issues and distance learning and I am contributing on this front. I am fully aware of the actual status of what regional accreditation holds as opposed to National accreditation and programmatic accreditation.

Finally, yes, all top schools will hold the much cherished "Triple Crown" accreditation. However, this doesn't mean that other schools that do not, are to be disparaged.

I hope this clarifies matters for you.

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Duncan

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Posted Jun 27, 2011 09:14

Hi Matt,

I think we are closer that you would imagine. My view is that the EU is accredited by ACBSP which is recognised as an accreditor by the CHEA but, because its standards are easier than those in the triple crown, it accredits schools which are amongst the lowest in quality and resources.

You didn't answer my question: do you have a connection to the European University?

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Matt Bella...

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Posted Jun 27, 2011 11:05

Hi Matt,

I think we are closer that you would imagine. My view is that the EU is accredited by ACBSP which is recognised as an accreditor by the CHEA but, because its standards are easier than those in the triple crown, it accredits schools which are amongst the lowest in quality and resources.

You didn't answer my question: do you have a connection to the European University?

Hi Duncan,

Your points are noted. Although I would beg to differ as to whether accreditation of schools from other accreditors makes them "amongst the lowest in quality and resources".

No connection to European University. I thought I had made that clear. My focus was on the accreditation issue, not European University. It just so happens that the discussion on US based accreditation appears on this specific thread.

<blockquote>Hi Matt,

I think we are closer that you would imagine. My view is that the EU is accredited by ACBSP which is recognised as an accreditor by the CHEA but, because its standards are easier than those in the triple crown, it accredits schools which are amongst the lowest in quality and resources.

You didn't answer my question: do you have a connection to the European University?</blockquote>

Hi Duncan,

Your points are noted. Although I would beg to differ as to whether accreditation of schools from other accreditors makes them "amongst the lowest in quality and resources".

No connection to European University. I thought I had made that clear. My focus was on the accreditation issue, not European University. It just so happens that the discussion on US based accreditation appears on this specific thread.

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