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sserdarusic

Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:34 AM
Hi! I'm from Croatia. Graduated from Schiller International University in London. GPA 3,6

I would like to do my MBA in New York. I don't know which schools are good and where to apply. So please someone, who is familiar with it, give me some advice. My e-mail is sserdarusic@yahoo.com

Thanks in advance
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Mindmaker

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 02:58 PM
You can 'Google" "NYC Universities and you will get a menu of most of the universities.
Or if you can type all this (Cut and paste in your browser, you will get quite a list.
www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=&q=universities&near=…
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Mindmaker

Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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Sun Oct 22, 2006 03:08 PM
I'm interested to joint MBA in NYC, but I need suggestion, for finding the right MBA.

1. My GPA 2.7(suck, I know)
2. Need suggestion about university that can accept that.

Listen, you are obviously an intelligent person, but like the rest of us, you got into too much fun in college especially your early years -no?. Got bad grades, that you somewhat salvaged later , senior years perhaps, when you found out you might be flunking out. There are two ways to get over you poor GPA.
(1) Do a second Bachelors degree. Meaning find college that will allow you to do a major of the 2nd degree only, and, accept your other credits, even if they suck. Make sure those 12 or 15 hours are B's and A's. It does not take that long. Now that you are grown you can do this in less than a year (Five Courses in fall, Five coures in Spring And one or two courses in summmer, and you are done. Make sure the courses you study are somewhat close, so you can for the most part study once for two courses etc. you know the routine. You might find you have channelled your energy in the right direction. If you cannot maintain a B average, then maybe college is just not for you. BUT I beleive everyone can go thrpough college with flying colors if they put their mind to it.
(2) Find a graduate school that will take you on probation for the first 9 hrs (3) courses and maintain a B average or Ace the course, then you might be able to transfere to the Ivy leageu of your choice provided you score high on GRE/GMAT or their entrance exams. Don't waste your time on CLEP, Clep is designed for people who have actually done the courses and maintained an interest in the subject. It is nothing to do with your intelligence. They do not give you time to "solve" the problems. All you have time for is to pick and chose what you really know. If you are mortal like some of us and you have been out of school for a few months, that can prove to be an exercise in futility.

[Edited by Mindmaker on 22 Oct 2006]

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Hiroko

Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Posts: 18
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:39 PM
Hello everybody,
I am interested in doing an MBA in New York, but I don't know anything, neither about the city, nor about the MBA programs offered. I'va read the posts, and some of the information of this website, but I would appreciate to know more inside information.
I know about the top schools, but what is there to say about the following programs?
- European School of Economics
- Manhattan Institute of Management (MIM)
- Metropolitan College of New York
- Niagara University
It is very important for me to able to live in NY city, and not in some nearby town.
Thanks,
Hiroko
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Marsha


Joined: 01 Jan 2006
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Sat Nov 04, 2006 07:11 PM
All the schools you mention are in Manhattan, right in the center of NYC. Try the link to google maps mindmaker has posted above to search for the excact location. Another good link is www.mapquest.com
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Hiroko

Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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Thu Nov 30, 2006 07:44 AM
It's difficult to figure out how these schools are... About the MIM, I'm not so sure now, they just offer an Internat. MBA (what's the specific thing about that?), and their Partnerschools are the following in Europe, of which I didn't hear before:
EBS Paris, MBS Munich Business School, The Baltic Russian Institute, WELLER International Business School, Fachhochschule St. Pölten..
That's not the most prestigious schools I suppose?


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LaVoz de Galicia


Joined: 13 Dec 2005
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 09:13 AM
they just offer an Internat. MBA (what's the specific thing about that?)


See www.find-mba.com/board/3083
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LaVoz de Galicia


Joined: 13 Dec 2005
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Sun Dec 03, 2006 09:16 AM
It's difficult to figure out how these schools are...


As an international student I would try to concentrate on the top schools in NY, ie
# New York University (NYU) - Leonard N. Stern School of Business
# Columbia University - Columbia Business School (CBS)
# Cornell University - Johnson Graduate School of Management
# Fordham University
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 09:59 PM
Hi guys!!!
I am a student from greece and i am about to take my business degree in forthcoming june,and my age is 24!
i have a couple of foul time w/e and a GPA 7/10 almost.
I am interested in fordham, baruch , st. john's and hofstra mba programs!
Could anyone please post a comment about these schools,like wich is better and why or anything at all, because here in greece its to hard to find anynone who could help me and guide me!!!
Thanks a lot anyway!!!!!!


out of all these schools Hofstra is your best choice by far
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:00 PM
As far as reputation is concerned, I would say #1 Hofstra, #2 St. Johns, dont know the third one you name. However, you should be aware that Hofstra is not located in NYC but one hour away from the city in upstate NY.


Hofstra is on Long Island, not upstate! If you ever watched that movie "Wall Street", Long Island is where Gordon Gekko plays on the weekends after 100 hour weeks on Wall Street
Unlike other schools in the area it actually has a stunning campus and vibrant sports scene
it takes 30-40 min by train to get to Manhattan

[Edited by jcohen on 20 Feb 2007]

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adriana_garcia

Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 03:56 PM
So you'd actually say Hofstra is the best of all NY schools, better than Columbia, Cornell, Fordham, and NYU? Or did I get you wrong there..
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 03:50 PM
So you'd actually say Hofstra is the best of all NY schools, better than Columbia, Cornell, Fordham, and NYU? Or did I get you wrong there..


tier one
columbia, nyu, cornell (this is not NYC region,Cornell is closer to Bufallo than NYC)

tier 2
hofstra, fordham

tier 3
pace, st johns, baruch

If you can get into tier one, GO! forget about the other schools.

If you cant then go to Hofstra, this is the school with your best bet of getting a good paying job on Wall Street.

[Edited by jcohen on 20 Feb 2007]

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adriana_garcia

Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 07:25 AM
I see, that's the idea that I had as well. But you seem to be a big fan of Hofstra, why that?
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Thu Feb 22, 2007 08:59 PM
I see, that's the idea that I had as well. But you seem to be a big fan of Hofstra, why that?


I am a big fan for getting your $$ worth education.
I believe that in NYC outside of NYU and Columbia Hofstra is the best value.

However in the US, University of Florida is the best value by far.
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adriana_garcia

Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:39 PM
Sure, that's what we are all looking for, but difficult to judge from outside. I really appreciate your comments here!
The details you give about Hofstra make it sound a very good place to study, true. How do you happen to know about this, did you study there or know people who did their MBA there?

[Edited by adriana_garcia on 23 Feb 2007]

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G3XL

Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 07:13 PM
To Adriana_Garcia,

I'm going to be quite clear about this. Outside of Columbia and NYU in New York City, St. John's is the next strongest program (Cornell would be 3rd, if the focus was on New York State). You need to take a hard look at each school's infrastructure, as well as media ranking and other information. This is about making an informed decision. Hofstra would have a pretty difficult time competing against Seton Hall, let alone St. John's or Fordham. If possible, it is strongly recommended that you pay a visit or two to each school under consideration, so as to gain an accurate perception of which candidate schools should remain as targets.

G3XL

PS - Again, to remind poster jcohen, Hofstra is not on the level of Fordham, let alone St. John's. Don't believe me? Then read this and see if you can find Hofstra mentioned anywhere in this NYU Stern article about New York business schools:

w4.stern.nyu.edu/news/news/2003/august/0804crainsn…

[Edited by G3XL on 28 Feb 2007]

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Malia

Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:18 AM
So you'd actually say Hofstra is the best of all NY schools, better than Columbia, Cornell, Fordham, and NYU? Or did I get you wrong there..


I don't want to sound rude, but this questions shows that you have not done any serious research about American business schools so far. I would not only rely on message boards like this before making choices on where to spend your 60k. Boards like this may be useful to make an informed decision, but they cannot replace your own research. You should look at rankings such as the one mentioned on this site, take a close look at the university websites, talk to alumni, talk to your professors, colleagues etc. etc.
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adriana_garcia

Joined: 23 Oct 2006
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Mon Feb 26, 2007 04:19 PM
Thank your for your warning Malia. Of course, I will do a different type of research than just the info at this board, I know it is very subjective.
The setence you quote by me was meant in a different way though, I was very surprised that someone would name Hoftra as n°1, that's why I double checked
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Tue Feb 27, 2007 08:51 PM
Thank your for your warning Malia. Of course, I will do a different type of research than just the info at this board, I know it is very subjective.
The setence you quote by me was meant in a different way though, I was very surprised that someone would name Hoftra as n°1, that's why I double checked


I did not name Hofstra #1
please re-read prior posts.

Once again and for the last time!

FIRST TIER IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK
NYU and COlumbia (Cornell,Rochester- upstate, not NYC)

then Hofstra, Fordham

then St Johns, Baruch, Pace ...



[Edited by jcohen on 28 Feb 2007]

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diachronie

Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 07:50 AM
I guess we can chose five MBA school in Manhattan.
1. Columbia
2. NYU
3. St. Johns (Manhattan Campus)
4. Fordham
5. Cuny Baruch
I ask my friend who goes to Fordham, she told me we can select Forham's MBA program not only at Bronx but also at Manhattan campus. Cuny Barch is located at around 23rd st. Pretty nice location. St. John's manhattan campus is located at near TriBeCa. Hofstra is located very far from Manhattan....

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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 02:03 PM
I guess we can chose five MBA school in Manhattan.
1. Columbia
2. NYU
3. St. Johns (Manhattan Campus)
4. Fordham
5. Cuny Baruch
I ask my friend who goes to Fordham, she told me we can select Forham's MBA program not only at Bronx but also at Manhattan campus. Cuny Barch is located at around 23rd st. Pretty nice location. St. John's manhattan campus is located at near TriBeCa. Hofstra is located very far from Manhattan....



Hofstra is about 30-40 min by train to Penn Station (34th St/Broadway),depending on where you live in Manhattan, if you do good luck with rent payments. it might take you similiar amount of time to arrive at other schools by subway...

Bottom line is this you want Manhattan/Wall Street connections you dont necessarily want to live there as it is ridiculously expensive and you still have to use subway to move around manhattan. Recent wall street boom has pushed apartment vacancy to near zero, and you have to compete with 10 young investment bankers for anything decent showing up. You are better off in the suburbs, Hofstra, enjoying the campus life and hopping on a train if you want to go to the city. Once again every major wall street firm recruits at Hofstra, the only thing you will be missing there is the NYC rat race, and headaches when you hand over your rent $$.

On a sidenote there is no way you can rank St. Johns ahead of Fordham...





[Edited by jcohen on 28 Feb 2007]

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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 02:15 PM
To Adriana_Garcia,

I'm going to be quite clear about this. Outside of Columbia and NYU in New York City, St. John's is the next strongest program (Cornell would be 3rd, if the focus was on New York State). You need to take a hard look at each school's infrastructure, as well as media ranking and other information. This is about making an informed decision. Hofstra would have a pretty difficult time competing against Seton Hall, let alone St. John's or Fordham. If possible, it is strongly recommended that you pay a visit or two to each school under consideration, so as to gain an accurate perception of which candidate schools should remain as targets.

G3XL

PS - Again, to remind poster jcohen, Hofstra is not on the level of Fordham, let alone St. John's. Don't believe me? Then read this and see if you can find Hofstra mentioned anywhere in this NYU Stern article about New York business schools:

http://w4.stern.nyu.edu/news/news/2003/august/0804crainsny.html


the article is about strictly NYC schools and is from 2003.

Did you know that Hofstra was part of NYU until 1963?
NYU will never have anything good to say about Hofstra since they separated from them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstra

St. Johns is a joke academically, thats what I have to say about them, if it wasnt for their basketball team playing in madison square garden, nobody would even know they exist......and how about the campus and its location in Jamaica??

[Edited by jcohen on 28 Feb 2007]

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diachronie

Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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Wed Feb 28, 2007 03:17 PM
I foget to say about Pace. Pace's campus is at Brooklyn Bridge near wall street.
Above I mentioned schools, I don't list according to MBA rank. Hofstra is good? I don't think so compared to Pace and St. Johns.
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G3XL

Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 09:45 AM
This message is for the individual pushing Hofstra.

No one from Hofstra should be commenting about St. John's period. Let's see. St. John's owns the School of Risk Management in the Wall Street area of Manhattan, hosts the annual Investment Management Conference (See University of Michigan Ross School of Business web site), recently was paid visits by MIT Atmospheric Prof. Emanuel Kerry, KKR's Henry Kravis (and Joseph Stiglitz in one of the prior Henry George Economics Lecture Series), established the Financial Information Laboratory (will be two labs located in Manhattan and Queens), recently raised the amount of their graduate level Student Management Investment Fund to $1 million, redesigned its MBA program with considerably more strategic and integrative orientation, has a dean with an undergrad and a dual PhD degree from Stanford and UChicago (was on Cornell's faculty for 14 years), recently was ranked in Beyond Grey Pinstripes as one of the top MBA programs for social responsibility, places more of its grads in bulge bracket IB than other regionally ranked programs, and has a higher total and per-capita bschool endowment.

Wait...there's more...St. John's Law is ranked number 4 in NYS in first-time bar passage rates directly behind Cornell, NYU, and Columbia, while Hofstra Law has the worst bar passage rate in NY State (even lower than that of CUNY Law). Again, someone pushing Hofstra has no business criticizing St. John's. In 1963, NYU was not a well known school, and nearly went bankrupt, during the 1970's before their 35 year capital campaign run.

Before you make such comments, you should take a look at the following post from another discussion board:

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From: Lumberg1
To: bulaien79

Don't know anything about the CIS programs specifically, but in my opinion SJU's reputation is far better than that of Baruch or Hofstra. I may be tainted on the Hofstra side - about 5 or 6 years ago I worked at a firm with this jackass who had an MBA from Hofstra. If it tells you anything, he was working the phones at a brokerage firm making $35 - $45k - not good for someone with an MBA. I had no MBA and a degree in Poli-sci and was making more than him with much more responsibility. I'm sure not everyone from Hofstra is a dolt, but this may be representative of the "Alumni Network" that you'll be looking to for jobs and to make a good impression so employers think favorably about the school. Seems like a long-shot to me.... If the programs are comaprable, go to SJU.
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Also, Bloomberg terminals don't necessarily add to the quality of a business school. And your emotionally charged assertions about recruiting in IB at Hofstra are highly disputed. The only two regional programs in the New York Metropolitan area that appear consistently on the lists of the IBs are St. John's and Fordham. All the other schools are nationally ranked. Again, the NYSSA every year selects 8 top area business schools for the "Annual Investment Research Challenge": Hofstra has never been selected, while St. John's is selected every year along with schools like Columbia, NYU, Fordham, Rutgers, Yale, and Seton Hall.
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Thu Mar 01, 2007 03:03 PM
I'm sorry but St Johns sucks period.

lets see Mr. Tobin (St Johns), CFO at Chase?
Mr. Zarb (Hofstra), former head of Nasdaq, and current CEO at AIG

Mr. Tobin could be serving lunch to Mr. Zarb in the real world, he could also be serving lunch to Mr. Sodano (current dean of business school at Hofstra, and former head of Amex)

So there it is for the alumni success on Wall Street.

#1 dont just talk, go to career center webpage and look who recruits where.
#2 go on blomberg and look how many senior level Wall Street professionals you will find from each school.

after all you are going to get an MBA to get a job not learn, thats the reality.

[Edited by jcohen on 01 Mar 2007]

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